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Apple prepares iOS 19, macOS 16 'Solarium' UI overhaul for WWDC
Absolutely not. Something useful is always lost in the transition, and frequently a new UI comes with new "system requirements" that either require a hardware upgrade outright, or result in degraded performance on older devices. Not to mention the bugs, I want Apple to improve and to innovate - "skating to where the puck is going to bell as they used to say -- not change things to change them (or to distract from the lack of innovation).mikethemartian said:Do most users want these kind of UI updates? I mostly prefer not changing unless there is a problem. Both in operating systems and applications companies just seem to move things around for the hell of it.
Plus the glass UI makes no sense. On Vision Pro it does, because these floating windows obscure the real world, and transparency minimizes that as much as possible. But full-screen devices like the iPhone and watch don't have any "background" to bleed through. I suppose the folding phone's supposed Stage Manager like UI would "benefit" from this transparency when opened; maybe that's part of it, but if so that again just sounds like a Windows Vista gimmick from 20 years ago.A radical guess - though not likely, due to the battery implications - might be that this is related to the rumored no-bezel/all-screen 20th anniversary iPhone. What if their plan is to actually make their devices appear translucent using a video feed from the back camera? A lot of near-future sci fi depicts implausible tablet and phone sized devices which look like a literal sheet of glass, with a neon UI on top of the real world.
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Apple prepares iOS 19, macOS 16 'Solarium' UI overhaul for WWDC
9secondkox2 said:Windows vista ui on iPhone, here we come.
hate to say it but I came here for this comment. First thing I thought. What’s disturbing is all the other parallels to that era of MS history too. Apple is now the aging behemoth that’s run out of ideas while its competitors build innovative products that define the zeitgeist. I remember all the leaks about internal dissension and dysfunction at Microsoft leading to the delays and then debacle that was Vista… sounds a lot like Apple’s AI push today. Slapping a glassy coat of paint on everything just like MS did back then is just a great comedic touch on top of everything else.
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New iPhone Fold leak details screen resolutions & under-display camera
Still waiting for any of these articles, any of them at all, to point out that the math does not add up. You can't fold a 7.8" display and get a 5.5" one on the other side. Doesn't work, unless the smaller display is surrounded by embarrassingly massive bezels. A 7.8" Display folded once would get you around a 6.1" display, same as the current "smaller" iPhones.
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iPadOS 19 rumored to get more Mac-like in productivity push
Heartily agree. And nobody who actually *likes* iPads wants this. As I’ve said countless times on this forum, Apple needs to continue iterating on the tablet paradigm, not give in and just slap the now 40-year old desktop one in its place. If anything, the innovations need to go in the other direction - Mac multitasking should be getting more iPad-like. Ditch the inefficiency, screen space wasting and manual management involved in having countless overlapping windows, and instead have tiled, multi-split app panels (rather than just the two horizontal splits we get now). If you need floating windows, have them operate more like slideover, “snapping” into place and having a revolving carousel of windows to choose from; and for small utility apps like the calculator or the color sampler, have them operate like the “quick note” and picture-in-picture features of iPadOS, with windows bound to hot corners so they don’t all pile up. Anyone who has actually given this form of multitasking a shot understands how much more elegant it is than the old free-for-all desktop paradigm. It just needs to be iterated on rather than abandoned (as it seems to have been ever since they introduced Stage Manager).braytonak said:
This is not, as Apple would say, elegant.charlesn said:[snip] If Apple wanted to give the iPad Pros a real sales boost, make them capable of booting into either iPad OS or Mac OS at the user's discretion, which Apple Silicon can do. In iPad OS, it works as usual. In Mac OS, you lose touchscreen capability and it operates just like a Mac, requiring the use of Magic Keyboard with the built-in trackpad. Apple could do this today. [snip]I still pull out my MacBook when I absolutely have to; but not because I want a ton of windows piling up on my screen. It’s because of a few things:
- Lack of third party software, or iPadOS versions of desktop software that are not fully featured (looking at you, Adobe), for reasons that are largely not Apple’s fault, but could be improved with a concerted push by Apple and some tools to make porting desktop apps to iPadOS easier
- Inability to do certain things that require having multiple documents / tabs open simultaneously. Most desktop apps support this, but on iPadOS, only Safari does (you can have multiple windows in many Apple iPadOS apps, but not tabs). There’s no technical reason it needs to be like this, so I hope Apple makes it easier for developers to incorporate multi-document design into their apps and I hope they lead the way with their own apps
- Background tasks that are broken / killed when an app is not on screen. This may be alleviated by getting a modern iPad with more RAM (my 2019 Air has just 3GB), but I don’t know. But that is one thing Mac OS definitely has over iPadOS currently. I don’t have to worry my Box upload is going to fail because I’m not looking at it on a Mac, but that happens on iPads, and it’s dumb.
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Apple plans another iPhone X style redesign for the iPhone 20
I've long thought that the endgame was an all-screen device... front, sides, even extending into part of the back (but obviously not all of it since you still need inductive charging, cameras, etc). After a few years the iPads and Macs would get the same no-bezel treatment.Apps would float on the front side by default, but could be coded to take advantage of the sides.. otherwise the sides would be reserved for system buttons. They could even have an "invisibility" mode where the entire screen background was a live feed from the back camera.. so we'd finally have something similar to those transparent tablets/phones that sci-fi shows insist we're all supposed to have in the future.
