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Great summary! Thanks.
The Watch is truly a game-changer — as much as the iPad was, if not more. It has become an essential accoutrement to my daily life, in a completely non-intrusive way.
But on a slow-burn, so people are not paying that much attention. It’s a sleeper product for Apple in so many ways...
muthuk_vanalingam said:Few questions to ponder for huawei haters in this forum:
1. If trump gets a better trade deal from China, would that automatically exonerate huawei of all these security threats posed by them???
2. When it actually happens, what would be your reaction???
3. If ip theft by Chinese companies is your real concern, then why are you not asking the question to trump administration - "why huawei alone? What about the likes of xiaomi, bbk sub brands Oppo/vivo/one plus??? Are they all saints?"
4. What is the real issue with China and huawei? Is it Trade imbalance? Or Security? They are both mutually exclusive. If security is an issue, what about ZTE?
Is the bigger picture really being looked at by trump supporters in this forum??? As a neutral person from a different country, it does not look like so to me.
2. I would hope that Trump would stick to his guns unless Huawei opens its code for inspection, ensures that it has no backdoors, and can prove that it is not quasi-owned or controlled by the Chinese state.
3. The issue of IP theft in China will likely be addressed as part of any reasonable trade agreement with China for all Chinese companies, including all the ones you mention. If the trade agreement ends up being something solely related to trade in good and services (e.g., they buy more soybeans and let some insurance companies compete in China) and not matters of IP theft, many in the US, including me, would deem the agreement a complete failure.
4. At this point, it's conflated. But it was clearly security with Huawei. As to ZTE, you don't seem to have kept up with the news: they are now subject to oversight by the US government for the next 10 years and they had to pay a fine of $1 billion.
tmay said:anantksundaram said:tmay said:... there is in fact a number of National Security issues with Huawei, and I posted the link to what the Australians had determined in their adversary simulations. Would you also blame the Czechs and Australia for "absolute protectionism"?
All the EU countries have concerns, but the Telecoms are all about low cost, and that's what state supported Huawei provides.
"Your honor, but, but, we did nothing illegal: we were just copycatting".
avon b7 said:acejax805 said:avon b7 said:dewme said:I really wish there was some objective, scientific, and non-politicized coverage of the actual issues the US has with Huawei. A lot of the concerns seem to be pure conjecture or hypotheticals and ignore the fact that all countries, US and EU ones included, have both the ability and incentives to place surveillance inside any hardware or software communication platforms and equipment, whether at the manufacturing point of origin or through interception anywhere in the supply, distribution, or service channels and pretty much regardless of where the equipment is deployed. It's not like Huawei is building a giant ship with a massive crane to mine manganese nodules from the bottom of the ocean off the east coast of the US, or anything like that...
The Trump administration simply didn't want to see the Chinese take a tech lead (5G for example) over the US.
Trump tried to get other countries to do the dirty work by banning Huawei. Most of those countries refused (after requesting evidence and not getting any) and as a US ban wasn't going to be enough, he simply declared a 'national emergency' to justify an executive order. This in spite of court cases (by both sides) already being underway.
Why wait for the legalities to be cleared up when you can skip that part altogether?
We are now in Wild West Politics and the sheriff is acting like one of those dodgy sheriffs in some crazy western.
Blatant protectionism and nothing else save for the conjecture and hypotheticals.
This is not the precedent the US should be setting on a world stage.
Protectionism. Not national security.
It's little wonder you guys are so ignorant. Or, as someone noted, you must be some sad little bots.
redhotfuzz said:I’m actually amazed Google is doing the right thing here. After all, they’ve been fueling Asian knockoff artists (including Samsung) since Android 1.0, at the expense of/on the backs of American companies and American innovation. Remember how Google bought one of the last remaining American mobile device companies (Motorola), only to mine their patents before dumping the company off on the Chinese? All to build a mobile market share monopoly to feed their sweet, sweet digital surveillance advertising business.
Now all that remain are Apple and, surprise, Google. Who, like Microsoft before them, found it worthwhile to stab their hardware “partners” in the back by jumping into the hardware market themselves for some potentially-lucrative double-dipping.
Google are scum, but at least they’re doing the right thing here. For once.
Credit it where credit is due.