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  • Microsoft Surface blamed for NFL football playoffs meltdown

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    danvm said:
    1) my observation of your behavior. 
    2) buying a zune and getting wrapped up with Microsoft was not the best option for the consumer.
    3) then hush.
    4) it doesn't matter. The surface book costs more and doesn't perform as well. 
    5) the issues with the surface pro and surface book dwarf any that Apple had with their products. If Apple products released with that laundry list of issues, the yelling over it would have been deafening and endless. Also, for the record, the verge is a well known anti-apple publication.
    5a) define great. The n-trig based surface pen is worse than a Wacom and the Apple pencil. I used the Smart keyboard and it worked well for me. There's really not much to complain about from my experience. 

    -Microsoft doesn't have quantity OR quality here. That's the issue.
    -Well Apple didn't talk about i#ork because there's really nothing new to say. What are they going to say? It's bigger? Still at the end of the day, iWork is great.
    -those are just your opinions of the Mac Pro bro. As a computer it is just fine and the smaller size of it has its uses.
    -Xbox one sales = 10 million / Wii U sales = 12.6 million / PlayStation 4 = 36 million
    - mine uses google. You know, because that's my preferred search engine in safari and Siri goes off of your preferred search engine.
    -oh, I'm sure that there's no shortage of articles badmouthing Apple. Especially on zdnet.
    -well it's still happening but ok.
    -Microsoft is still doing ballmer did then.
    -Clippy will always be a bad idea
    -keep in mind that the iPad pro came out and blew the entire surface line away on its debut quarter.
    1)  If it's "your" observation then it's "your" opinion. 

    2)  The 10 DRM free songs per month was great for consumers.  Those people still can hear those songs in their favorite devices today.  Beautiful, isn't?  Again, how many songs do I get free with Spotify or Apple Music?  How many songs do I keep if I cancel the subscription?  

    3)  If you said so...

    4)  Yes, it cost more and PC World say it performs very well specially with GPU.  

    5)  Do you have any link with specific numbers about SB / SP4 problems vs Apple devices?  I haven't seen any.  BTW, Apple is offering free repairs for the 2013 Macbook Pro with problems like problems like "distorted or non-existent graphics, as well as freezing, reboots, sudden shutdowns, or even a system failing to start".  

    http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/02/06/apple-offers-free-repairs-for-2013-mac-pros-with-defective-video-cards

    So we have a device that starts a $3000, with major problems and after 3yrs Apple decide to fix it.  Is that the quality you are talking about?  You know what, I prefer the MS way of being open about the problem while working the fix than keep customer for 3yrs with problems without any kind of information.  Interesting that this is not the first time.  Remember when it happen with the Macbook Pro?

    http://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/19/2011-macbook-pro-repair-program-apple/

    Is this the company you defend so much?  I love and have Apple devices, but I have no problem pointing this kind of issues (same as for MS with Surface).  And you?  Like I said before, both companies have things to praise and other to criticize.  Don't you agree?

    5a)  Pencil being better doesn't makes Pen a bad accessory.  Completely different from the Smart Keyboard with it's, shallow keys, single angle position, no backlight and no trackpad,which makes using the iPad Pro awkward when it's used in vertical.  (At least that was what SJ said based considering studies Apple made years ago, ).  Apple decide to ignore those studies and release the Smart Keyboard.  Compare that to the SP4 keyboard which has very good tactile feeling, trackpad and backlight.  Looks like SP4 keyboard is better.  

    - That depends.  For example, iPhone is miles ahead of Windows Phone in quality and quantity.  The same can be said of Office 2016 / 365 vs iWorks or Windows Server vs OS X Server.  I can write a longer list, but I think you got my point.  

    - It's nice to hear that iWorks works for you.  But MS Office still the best, and there is nothing close to it.

    -  I suppose there is people what are fine with a Mac Pro.  But what about high end users how need large quantity of RAM, more expansion and multiples CPU's?  They have to look elsewhere, like HP, for high end workstations. 

    - No, Xbox One sales are close to 18m.  

    http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-sales-reach-at-least-18-million-units-rep/1100-6433643/

    - I prefer Google search engine too.  You just ask about Bing and I just pointed how Apple went with it as a default engine for Siri.  

    - Ok, you don't like ZD Net, so here are other articles, 

    http://lowendmac.com/2013/mac-osx-10-7-lion-the-vista-of-the-mac-world/
    http://osxdaily.com/2014/02/18/still-running-old-os-x-upgrade-to-mavericks/

    - I haven't seen any recent reports.  Can you post links?

    - No, today MS is very different from the Ballmer MS.  Same as today's Apple is different from past Apple, and not necessary for the better.  

    - Don't worry, Clippy is no more, now is Tell Me.  Same as iTunes Ping was a bad idea, and it's no more.  It happens to every company.

    - Maybe, maybe not.  Like I posted before, those were IDC estimates.  I won't comment on sales since Apple neither MS release any numbers.  I don't get why Apple didn't release specific numbers since the iPad Pro sold so well.  Strange, isn't?  What I can say is that iPad Pro didn't stop iPad sales from going down again.  
    1) my observation is accurate.
    2) notice that NOBODY was interested in Microsoft's subscription service? That's kinda the end of it right there. Microsoft gives 2-5 free games with an XBL subscription too, but have you seen the games they/ have been offering lately?
    3) then hush
    4) The surface book costs more than the MacBook Pro with a GPU and does not perform as well.
    5) are you really that blind? Surface book and surface pro both have insane levels of bugs from day 1. Am I saying that Apple products never release with bugs? Nope. But  dude, some of the bugs dealing with the surface book are on the design level. Not just from some manufacturing error or firmware issue. Also have you seen the laundry list i-of issues with surface devices? Apple products usually release with 1 or 2 bugs but man the surface line's list of bugs is so long that I feel the urge to listen to Yackety Sax as the list scrolls by in double time. You say that you prefer the Ms way of being open, but Microsoft WASN'T open! They buried their head in the sand until the endless complaints about their product grew too loud to ignore.

    https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/microsoft-surface/64095/welcome-to-surfacegate

    5a) well I've used the smart keyboard and it was fine when I did. You're sitting there talking about Steve jobs but seem to forget that he demonstrated a keyboard dock for the original iPad that had one angle, no backlit keys and no trackpad. Also the iPad and iOS aren't designed for use with a trackpad or mouse or whatever. That's the nature of the OS. You say that Apple decided to 'ignore these studies'? Dude, get out of my face.

    http://www.imore.com/ipad-keyboard-dock-hands

    -if word is so great, then why can't it produce print ready graphics and gradients without looking cheap or having streaks or banding?
    -Microsoft stopped reporting their individual system sales back in 2014
    -Bing is NOT the default search engine for Siri. Siri uses whatever search engine YOU set as your default when you set up your iOS device.
    -Really?

    http://aaplinvestors.net/stats/ipad/ipaddeathwatch/
    http://aaplinvestors.net/stats/iphone/iphonedeathwatch/

    -Microsoft today is doing the same sort of stuff that it did under ballmer.
    -ping didn't automatically pop up and butt in front of what you're trying to do everytime you start up iTunes.
    -more than just IDC estimates but whatever. You've been beyond ridiculous this entire exchange.
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  • Microsoft Surface blamed for NFL football playoffs meltdown

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    danvm said:
    maxit said:
    Am I the only one seeing your blind defense of the Surface Flop as utterly ridiculous ?

    Using PCword as backup for a Microsoft defense, lol
    I'm not defending the Surface.  I'm just pointing how Surface Book with GPU is faster than rMBP 13" in GPU dependant applications, and PC World tests support it.  If the rMBP 13" had GPU the story would de different, but since Apple decided to not give that option, then it's clear that in some applications the Surface Book is faster.  
    No, you are definitely defending the surface book and defending what Microsoft did here. The fact is that Microsoft completely Lea-frogged over their entry level surface books to compare their dGPU version to an entry level MacBook Pro that doesn't have a GPU. 
    williamlondon

  • Microsoft Surface blamed for NFL football playoffs meltdown

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    danvm said:


    Look, Microsoft made a broken comparison, I suggested ways to fix it.

    1) compare the entry level MacBook Pro to an entry level surface book
    2) compare the GPU surface book to the MacBook Pro that has a GPU.

    comparing the entry level MacBook Pro to a mid-tier surface book is nothing but smoke and mirrors and Microsoft set themselves up to get called on their BS. There's no way around it. They said that the surface book was faster than MacBook Pro. Well they were proven wrong. Learn to live with it.
    Based in the PC World article,

    1)  rMBP has a slight advantage over the Surface Book.
    2)  28W Quad core CPU + GPU has big advantage over the Surface Book 15W Dual Core + GPU.  

    I'll add a third one,

    3)  rMBP 13" vs Surface Book  (similar as MS comparison from keynote), gives an advantage to rMBP in CPU intensive tasks while Surface Book has a massive advantage in GPU dependant applications.  Considering PC World you can say to a some degree that MS didn't lie, right?
    1) slight advantage? So you complain about advantages when the less expensive rMBP has an advantage, but you think it is perfectly fair game when Microsoft purposefully chooses to use a mid-range surface book against an entry level MacBook Pro? 

    2) who's fault is that? Microsoft was the one that claimed that the surface book was twice as fast as the MacBook Pro.

    3) if you want to compare the entry level MacBook Pro to a surface book, compare an entry level surface book to an entry level MacBook Pro. I don't know why that's so hard for you to understand. Microsoft certainly lied. They made a gimped comparison. It's like taking a Mac Pro and saying that it is 4 times as fast as a PC because it can whip a PC with a core m and integrated graphics.
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  • Microsoft Surface blamed for NFL football playoffs meltdown

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    danvm said:
    Except for the fact that there is a HUGE price difference between the 13" mbp that they used in their comparison and the surface book that they compared to it. It costs $800 more and it was only faster in one (1) category. In every other category, the speeds were similar.

    Then look at what happened when the top of the line surface book was compared to the top of the line MacBook. The surface book wound up spitting gravel.

    Like I posted before, let's wait for Apple to release their Macbook 13" with GPU, and then a comparison can be made.  Until then, there is no device from Apple that can compare directly to the SB, considering dimensions and specs. 

    Does it makes sense to you compare a Macbook 1.2Ghz Core M, 8GB with a SurfaceBook, Intel i5, 8Gb, only because both are in the same price range (MB $1599 vs SB $1699?)  Because if that's the case, this comparison is not good for the Macbook considering performance. 

    Maybe, maybe not.  I'll take that from MS with a grain of salt. 



    Microsoft compared the surface book to the non-retina MacBook Pro. That laptop costs $1099 and is running an i5. Look, stop back pedaling. Microsoft goofed and got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Accept it and move on.

    When I say top of the line MacBook, I mean top of the line MacBook, that means the i7 MacBook Pro vs the i7 surface pro. Stop playing with semantics.


    i don't care about what grain of salt you take. There's already enough salt to go around.
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  • Apple's iPad Pro outsold Microsoft's entire Surface lineup over the holidays

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    512ke said:
    yeah but Microsoft Surface sales are on the RISE, while Apple iPad sales are on the DECLINE. Microsoft also has supposed success in "cloud" which is only vaguely understood, hence the possibility for investors to embrace magical hopeful thinking. The combination of ON THE RISE and MAGICAL THINKING IN TECHNOLOGY makes Microsoft's stock a good buy right now. While the mix of EXTREME IRRATIONAL PESSIMISM and A DEATH OF APPLE MAGICAL THINKING makes Apple's stock a bad buy for the time being.

    Just one more foolish opinion!
    The Microsoft surface is still a poor performer in the market. Ok their sales are on the rise, but look at where they were and look at where they are. They were at the bottom and they are still at the bottom. The iPad pro alone came out and outsold the entire surface line without having all sorts of fire sales. I'm sure that, had Apple held insane sales or trade-in deals and practically gave their iPads away then they'd move way more units and see tremendous growth. But Apple had their pie and ate it too. Their Apple pie, that is.
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