frank777

It's been amazing watching this debate unfold at "tech sites" like Gizmodo and Engadget. These are people who are paid to report on tech matters and none of them seems to know that in less than two years we'll have 5G mobile connections building out that are as fast as home connections, and cable ISPs will be in the fight of their lives.

They just keep railing on and on about how lots of people only have one internet provider...

I honestly can't tell if this is simply some kind of political strategy, or they truly don't what's going on in the tech world.

Here's an article by Forbes from two months ago that nails a lot of the 5G buildout details.

rob53 said:

I don't want to start a war but I've been seeing articles that talk about designing in RGB and only converting to CMYK when sending to a printer. With the reduction in printed material, I wonder why so many people continue to demand CMYK editing when most of the output is for web and photographic printing.

Probably because print isn't going anywhere. (Daily newspapers will largely die though, probably within the next 5-8 years.)
Which is where the 'print is dying' meme comes from.

Just about everything you buy - whether from retail or online - comes in a package or has a label, and those things get printed on a press. Usually a CMYK press.

If they are just building imaging software for web and photographic markets, they could have just upgraded Pixelmator.
Using the 'Pro' moniker would generally imply more than casual use in corporate/industrial environments, ad agencies, print shops etc.

Printed material has seen a reduction. But walk into a Walmart or your grocery store and count how many products have printed labels, signs and packaging.

Oh yeah, that's pretty much everything in the place. Much of it designed on Macs, by professionals, for a CMYK press.

The negativity being thrown around this is insane.

Look, if you don't like cloud software that's fine. Everyone has concerns there. But this product is in a space that competes with Mint, YNAB, Every Dollar, and a bunch of others. And most of the larger brand offerings have moved to the cloud, because in 2017, mobile is a thing. And Adobe showed that subscriptions were crazy profitable, so the industry has followed.

But loud-mouths on the Mac platform have been complaining for a full decade that they absolutely needed the 2007 features back, and that feature-parity with Windows was non-negotiable. Now they've finally gotten both - along with a choice of THREE versions - and the complaining soldiers on.

I don't know if I'll consider Quicken 2018. It probably boils down to whether there's a Canada-specific Home and Business version coming that can track local stuff like HST, TFSAs etc. and print Canadian cheques. Quickbooks is $20+ a month, so any competition for that is welcome.

But I know there are home users who have major investments and others who might see $50./year as a bargain for personal financial management.
More options to Mac users are always welcome. Thanks Quicken for sticking with the Mac platform.

It took them a full decade to make a Pro version, and I still don't see 'CMYK' anywhere on the feature list.

Maybe I missed it?

Nicely done, my fellow Canadians.

As mentioned, moving to the new USB port will be great for next year's upgrade, and also a Space Grey version like the iMac Pro's.