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redefiler said:

If only we jam Trump up inside Obama, then we'd finally have both the ying and yang of retarded, self-absorbed candidates in one compact form.

Democrats who see this guy as a pariah, look in the mirror.  You're to blame right along with your Republican friends.   Your team has been whining about corporate's foreign income for years, and created this whole stupid notion as some sort of foil for your union parasite allies.  Trump is now pandering the same idea back to your stupid political base.

schlack said:

SpamSandwich said:

thewhitefalcon said:

Soli said:

SpamSandwich said:

Jobs wasn't a Muslim. Banksy is off the reservation.

In what way? A large percentage of vocal, bigoted Americans don't want to let any Syrian refugees in the country for fear that one could be a terrorist.

Furthmore, Jobs not being Muslim makes his point and of those that aren't acting like pussies when it comes to helping those in need, because the offspring of immigrants are very likely to adapt to the American culture.

So when are you opening up your house to them?

I know and have known Muslims and none of them were radicals. I personally don't advocate for any religion, but people are free to believe whatever they like as long as they don't harm others.

It's the last part that many arabs don't seem to be dealing with very well...

sdw2001 said:

Ireland:

The 52 school shootings in America this year were at the hands of Christians. The vast majority of the many thousands of killers in US society every year are Christian. The over a million innocents who were killed in the Middle East since 9/11 are a result of Christian government involvement. Christians kill, Muslims kill. Religion is not the issue. People born of both of these religions kill people. And both holy books of these religions are against it. The issues are control, hate and fear. The good news is the majority of the human race isn't for killing. If the US and the U.K. hadn't blown Iraq to pieces and given weapons to the Syrian opposition which ISIL came from and abandoned all their tanks we wouldn't have refugees flooding the boarders and we wouldn't have ISIL as we do today.

Sorry for the formatting...apparently the new forums suck on Chrome.  

It is misleading to suggest 52 shootings were done by "Christians," because Christianity (or a version of it) did not have anything to do with their motivation. Even when a Christian commits a crime supposedly in the name of the faith, it's a far cry from an entire radicalized segment of a major religion, one which seeks to destroy a way of life.   

Christians do kill.  Muslims do kill.  But only one is prone interpretation that creates the aforementioned extremism.  As for holy books, that's incorrect.  It is much easier to interpret Islam's book to justify violence.  It specifically calls for violence in places.  Do we really even need to argue that point?  

Iraq and refugees:  Yes, if we hadn't invaded, those refugees may never have needed to flee.  Of course, if the British hadn't divided up the area a hundred years ago, maybe neither Iraq war would been necessary.  Maybe Sadam Hussien would have been an employee at Iraqi Wal-Mart.  Mayybe he wouldn't have gassed his own people.  The point is that going back and saying "we shouldn't have invaded" is pointless.  We did.   What matters is very recent history and the way forward.  By abandoning Iraq in order to fulfill a political promise, Obama helped create ISIS.  By stating "Assad must go" and drawing a red line on chemical weapons that he later refused to enforce, he helped create the refugee crisis.  

You have the same view he does...that America is responsible for Islamic terror and extremism--that if we just kept our nose out of things, they'd leave us alone.  This, especially as evidenced by recent events, is delusional.  But, I guess that's why 30% of the country or more still supports this fantastic disaster of a President.  I wonder how many more people will have to die at the hands of terrorists before they realize Obama has made the world infinitely more dangerous.  Hell, even you anti-gun nuts should be upset.  He's responsible for people buying tens of millions more guns than when he took office.