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elijahg said:
I said "we know the M1 is an evolution of the Ax iPad chips" and "some of the iPads are very cheap". Never mentioned the Pro being cheap. We also know the M1 is a beefed up Ax CPU. It was not designed from scratch, so it's not that expensive, most of the R&D has been paid for by the iPhone. 

So now you are an expert in costs between engineering different SOCs?  If there isn't that much of a difference between the chips then why not just standardize everything on the same chip?

Gee, maybe there are significant cost differences to justify having different versions of the chips?

Just maybe?

Good god, I'm used to baseless speculation around all things Apple but this thread is one of the more ridiculous I have seen in a long time.

elijahg said:
The issue is Apple has changed their M.O. of the last 40 years - or more specifically Cook has. Macs were great value in the days of Jobs - now, not so much. And in some cases: RAM/storage, not at all. Apple used to make computers for their customers, now Apple makes computers for their shareholders.

You are out of your mind delusional or an ignorant wippersnapper.  You want to talk about "the good 'ol days" - let's talk real Mac's.  My Mac Plus.  Got it at a discount for $2100 off a teacher that bought it and tried to convince the school to buy it.  $2,100 in 1987 is almost $5,000 in todays dollars adjusted by inflation and depending on which estimating tool you use.  Out of curiosity I looked it up because I figured someone was going to toss down the "good old days" card sooner or later.  God bless my crazy parents for buying it for me (and the advantages of being an only kid).  I went straight from 8 bit computers to a 32 bit machine with a GUI and mouse (OK, not a pure 32 bit machine but still way better than the PCs of the day).  

That was for a computer with a 9" MONOCHROME screen, screen resolution you couldn't fit a calculator widget from today on and 1 megabyte of RAM.  I went in with 10 other people for a bulk RAM order to get a discount and we were over the moon at scoring 1 megabyte (MB, not GB) of RAM for $90 a stick.  I got four to max my machine out at 4 MB.  Twice the amount of the $200 difference people are raising so much fuss over.  Actually it's worse than that adjusted for inflation, but screw it - at face value it's already ridiculous.  Let's not even discuss the $700 external 40MB SCSI hard drive either.  I still don't like to think about it.  

So yeah, I have plenty of reason to see the comments in here and deem them beyond hysterically pathetic as well as funny too.  You people are getting computing power (and COLOR!) we could have never dreamed of at a fraction of the price.  So enough of the ridiculous pining for the "good 'ol days" BS because they most assuredly never were nearly as good as people choose to remember them.  

Apple wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar concern if they only made computers for their shareholders; another ridiculously absurd assertion - that sounds good in comment threads but makes zero sense otherwise.  Next you'll tell me that central planning will really work *this time* and all the previous failures throughout history were just because those people were morons but we are much smarter now.  Heh - Adam's penned it as satire but perhaps we are descendants of phone sanitizers after all 

titantiger said:
I'm not hysterical over it.  I'm just pointing out some glaring issues with how they went about this.

They are only glaring if this is the only Apple Silicon iMac they ever release.  That's quite a leap. 

Also that $1099 iMac you keep harping on - care to find one in stock at any Apple resellers?  I haven't seen it around for some time now.  If they had kept it around there's a good chance it would have gone up in price - like a lot of other non-Apple electronics have in the last year - might have something to do with a global event I might have heard a rumor or two about...

titantiger said:
Let me see if I can explain this to you simply:  It's not drastically different in ways that are meaningful to the end user.  

Who are you, Tron?  Now among other things you are the spokesman for all end users too?  lol!  Gotta love people posting anonymously on electronic message boards.  

titantiger said:
And I pointed out in the very next post that the M1 Mac Mini with the same exact specs on RAM and SSD storage can be paired with a nice 24" 4k LG monitor, Apple keyboard and mouse and still come out $150 less. 

For a much shittier experience.  

Fine - you don't value it.  Apple thinks there are more people that will.  And I also think they are probably right.   Also you've already demonstrated over and over that even if they fixed your "issues" you wouldn't be buying it for other reasons so have fun being a contrarian for constrains sake.  It is one of the bigger Internet pastimes (and heck BBS's before the Internet too). 

caddyman33 said:

Who uses Ethernet ?  

People who value performance, speed and reliability.  Other than that, no biggie.