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mdriftmeyer said:

 The Big 6 Banks are ready to invest $90 Trillion in Climate Change, but you voted for a moron who denies its very existence.

Right, to think that humans cause climate change vs. volcanoes and other massive scale processes like the star in our solar system is just silly. I suppose we caused climate change on Mars too, which is why there is no longer surface water?  These climate change wackos want to tax carbon -- that's right we humans are all MADE of carbon, yet they want to play a carbon credit game!  IT is telling that Chief Climate Change Money Maker in Waiting, Al Gore will not debate the Heartland Institute's climate change experts for many years!  Lord Monckton of Brenchley, a former advisor to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, issued the debate challenge which Gore also declines.  You see, it is Gore's new niche to MAKE MONEY, it's not about anything other than smoke screens and money making for him, else why would he HIDE from debates?!

https://web.archive.org/web/20150728015352/https://www.heartland.org/press-releases/2007/06/27/why-wont-al-gore-debate?artId=20873

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/al-gore-sells-out

http://www.androidworld.com/monckton-response-to-gore-errors.pdf

StrangeDays said:

libertyforall said:

designr said:

libertyforall said:

jmgregory1 said:

This is exactly why Trump's promises of bringing manufacturing back to America are more likely to have a negative effect on jobs.  Not that it's Trump's fault, but promising factory workers that there is some great future for them is irresponsible at best, and dangerous on some level.

There are always related ancillary jobs created and needed, ever been to an automotive production plant?  I was just at the Camaro/CTS plant in Grand River, MI, and there are plenty of people also required for much work...  

Yeah. The job counts might decrease in some way in some areas and in the short term. But really what happens is the jobs themselves change and are redefined in some ways. And then there is demand (and supply of of labor) for other things.

Exactly, there are always changes and retraining required, anyone who thinks they found a life-long job is fooling themselves these days.  Everything is evolving and job skills and training must also continually evolve, that is the only way to thrive in these times of change.  

We as a species are planning to goto Mars, now THAT is an area for jobs!    

Neither of your points is sustainable.

- The entire working class cannot *all* become robot repair men. 

- The entire working class cannot *all* become hard scientists because of the overheard of higher education. There are millions/billions of poor, uneducated rural Chinese farmers, and it's unrealistic to expect all of them to become scientists.

Evolve or die, that is what must occur and is the way of the world -- always has been.  Nobody said sustainable, the future economy is built on versatility of workforce.  Nobody is talking about everyone becoming robot repair people, the future is in knowledge work, information processing and such, that is where there is tremendous growth potential plus science and engineering.  If you think you we can always do what we have always done, we will never rise to become the species that we are meant to become -- traveling among the stars!  


Occupy Mars!   

designr said:

libertyforall said:

jmgregory1 said:

This is exactly why Trump's promises of bringing manufacturing back to America are more likely to have a negative effect on jobs.  Not that it's Trump's fault, but promising factory workers that there is some great future for them is irresponsible at best, and dangerous on some level.

There are always related ancillary jobs created and needed, ever been to an automotive production plant?  I was just at the Camaro/CTS plant in Grand River, MI, and there are plenty of people also required for much work...  

Yeah. The job counts might decrease in some way in some areas and in the short term. But really what happens is the jobs themselves change and are redefined in some ways. And then there is demand (and supply of of labor) for other things.

Exactly, there are always changes and retraining required, anyone who thinks they found a life-long job is fooling themselves these days.  Everything is evolving and job skills and training must also continually evolve, that is the only way to thrive in these times of change.  

We as a species are planning to goto Mars, now THAT is an area for jobs!    

jmgregory1 said:

This is exactly why Trump's promises of bringing manufacturing back to America are more likely to have a negative effect on jobs.  Not that it's Trump's fault, but promising factory workers that there is some great future for them is irresponsible at best, and dangerous on some level.

There are always related ancillary jobs created and needed, ever been to an automotive production plant?  I was just at the Camaro/CTS plant in Grand River, MI, and there are plenty of people also required for much work...  

Article never explains what the contention is with label laws!