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stoneyg said:

AppleInsideOutsider said:

Yawn

I need a better phone, not a computer, not a tracker

better battery , rugged , not burdened by complications that drift attention far from the tasks at hand

Privacy

without "features" that only add complexity.

Get the core solid

it ain't

 I don't walk around staring into my hand , like Narcissus into the pond.

Go back to the Design philosophy you abandoned years ago.

You are high on your own gas

Curious what in your opinion is needed for a better "phone." I can't think of many improvements that are left for phone functionality, but I could missing your point.

It sounds like he's looking for a better flip phone.

Jordanf1 said:

All I can say is 2500 Aud for the 11 pro max is outrageous cost 

And no one in the world is making you buy the 11 pro Max. It is nice to have the option to buy an 11 pro max if you want one. Meanwhile. Apple has dropped the price of the 11 which is the story you're supposedly commenting on. (And speaking as someone who owned both the X and the XR, I am sure the 11 is a terrific phone for anyone who doesn't want the Max.)

If he's going back 15 years, he's also leaving out the original MacBook Air and the iPhone in addition to all of the other products listed. What is the last great Apple product they designed, the 2004 iMac?

As for TVs, they are a very low margin product that has to interact even now with cable. Coming out with a new TV is a lot harder than I think he realizes.

macgui said:

I absolutely think there's a market for foldable phones, just not this version, not yet. The typical use case is obvious, or should be. The concept is sound but this Samsung was a prototype/demo at best and just as obviously never should have shipped.

A foldable phone needs to be light and thin. Both of those metrics can be more than today's non-folders, because there will some compromise with the market willing to make some compromise for the larger screen. But even if this same Samsung were durable, it's just too thick and too heavy for 99.9% of  those wanting a folder. Once the novelty wore off, this thing would be a brick. A functional brick, but still a brick.

LOL, I love it when people post the market and use for a folding phone is obvious, and then the person posting it doesn't explain what that user case is. Other than it being a cool gimmick what is the point of it?

I know lots of people say that it will be a phone and a tablet, but why do people really want that? I think that folding phones might really take off, but they need to something that existing products don't do. Think of the iPhone. When it was first rumored, it sounded very much like all it was going to be was a cell phone and an iPod combined. While such a product would have been nice, it wouldn't have been the earthshattering product it was and it's hard to imagine it toppling Blackberry. The phone was essentially a portable computer you could carry anywhere along with being a phone, an iPod, and a GPS device all rolled into one and then some. For folding phones to become something exciting enough to really discuss, there needs to something more than what we've seen.

avon b7 said:

"... and the fastest-growing Android maker in China is also threatening to use its own Linux fork"

Huawei isn't 'threatening' anything of the sort. 

The linked article even makes that crystal clear. They have NO plans to move from Android. They have a backup plan in case the US government tries to impede its use of Android. That's it. No threats in sight.

Sort of like how Apple isn't developing its own chip that could power the Mac line or its own modems.

Huawei may be developing its own version of Android out of fears of a trade war, but if they come up with something that's better or just as good why wouldn't they release their own OS? It's not like the threat of a trade war won't end when Trump leaves office.