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So, is it enough of a feature for me to change my mind about getting a 14 inch over a 16 inch? Probably not, but who can really say without actual numbers, or even something a bit more detailed than "this is a feature that exists".

That's OK, I already have a bunch of those for my current 16 inch MBP. I'm thinking of going to the 14 inch as it's smaller, lighter, and has no real disadvantage over the 16 inch (while the Intel ones had issues with GPUs, cores, etc...)

elijahg said:

Glad the ports many here declared "legacy" are back. Are they still "legacy" now?

Yes, they are. Why do I want a slow SD card slot when I could have used another TB4 port with much wider bandwidth? What if I don't need an external monitor? I'm stuck with these ugly holes in my computer that won't do anything for me.

Magsafe power you can make an argument for, but my desktop setup is kind of reliant on my power being on the other side, so I either forego one of my only 3 TB ports, or have my power stretching across my desk and bending at an odd angle.

Sure these complaints were petty, but they're no more petty than the complaints we had to put up with "You mean I have to buy a $10 adapter to use my legacy gear?"

neilm said:

I'm pretty much in the "Ain't broke/don't fix it camp" as far as the MBP form factor goes. Sure, eke out a bit more screen real estate, and definitely upgrade the built in camera, but neither of those things requires any sort of wholesale redesign. My 2016 MBP is still elegantly simple and entirely functional in its design.

But that brings up a few things that Apple actually did break with the current M1 MacBook Pro compared to my old Intel version:
- Multi-monitor support
- High RAM option
- 4 TB ports
- Meaningful market differentiation from the M1 Air.

It's understandable why that was, based on the new M1 processor being the first and only one of its kind. But now's the time for a significant step forward.

I'm with you on "don't fix it". I understand why the first gen M1 MBPs might have made some of those decisions, but I also hope they'll fix them in the M1X/M2/whatever iteration.

Although the RAM thing might be less of an issue than it seems. Definitely need multiple monitors and more TB ports, though.

Especially as I've just found out some of the software I was hanging on to x86 for will run on Apple Silicon. Specifically Windows software. Which will run in a Parallels VM running Windows 11 for ARM. So that's less of a concern than it was. For some of the other stuff, I'm on a beta for a cloud gaming solution. There are some games that won't work either way, but I'm less concerned about those.

So I'm looking to see what I'm going to be buying on Tuesday morning (AEST). I bought the Mac mini last year pretty much that morning. I could be buying another one, and/or an MBP, depending on what they announce. (But if it doesn't have 4 TB ports, and multiple monitor support, I might still end up with a new Intel MBP.)

Fidonet127 said:

blah64 said:

Seriously? "The old-fashioned Touch ID"?

 Why use such loaded language? It's not old-fashioned, it's just different. Works better with masks, allows use under a table without being a distraction to others, and various other advantages. Sure, faceID also has advantages, but those 2 words are just oddly biased and completely unnecessary.

Read the sentence with other options, like "traditional", i.e.

    The traditional Touch ID sensor is still in use below the display.

 Or better yet, and more professional, no biased words at all, i.e.

The Touch ID sensor is still in use below the display.

I have to agree. One of the selling points of why I got my SE 2nd gen is because of the Touch ID. Then COVID happened and I was really glad I had a way to securely and quickly logon while wearing a mask. 

Are you sure the references to "old fashioned TouchID" aren't in comparison to the newer TouchID implementation on the iPad mini and others, where it's in the power button, and there is no home button?