seankill

ericthehalfbee said:

avon b7 said:

Soli said:

Is Android even idealized for tablet use yet?

It's been a while since I used an Android tablet (Samsung, Woxter) but the experience wasn't as good as with my Mini 2.

No idea if things have improved.

They've gotten worse. No OEMs putting any effort into tablets, Google not taking Android on tablets seriously and developers too lazy to optimize for tablets, instead relying on Android scaling to make phone Apps work on larger screens.

I tend to agree or at least they are just as bad as before. But I have noticed with the tablet market shrinking that android tabs are just good video players and maybe OK web surfing devices if you don’t have an older iPad. The Apps are where the iPad beats the hell out of Android. They are incredibly terrible, believe me, I have a samsung laying around the house that never gets used, even my wife doesn’t use it. 

melgross said:

freethinking said:

acejax805 said:

Android and productivity don’t belong in the same sentence. Samsung’s new tablet and all other Android devices are the epitome of a disposable consumption device. 

Tablet and productivity don’t belong in the same sentence. fixed that for you.

You really need to use an iPad before saying that. It’s obvious by your simple dismissal, that you haven’t. If you say you have, it’s not believable.

I agree and disagree. There are some things that can be done on an iPad as far as productivity but it’s still far limited compared to a laptop. A laptop is much like a slower desktop while an iPad is like a limited laptop. There is just so much you can do on a touchscreen. It’s a better consumption device to supplement a laptop/desktop. It’s poor for CAD, missing a mouse for extended use (plus I could beat anyone using a mouse vs them using a touch screen in terms of speed, ease, and productivity).  

Good device for taking everywhere though. 

Soli said:

rogifan_new said:

danvm said:

Apple is the first US company with $1T valuation, and second worldwide, behind PetroChina. 

http://fortune.com/2018/08/02/apple-stock-today-first-1-trillion-market-cap/

Did PetroChina legitimately get to 1T? Is it even a publicly traded company?

It happened on their first day of their IPO during a spike. It was sustained for more than a moment, they certainly didn't close that day anywhere near $1T USD, and have been far from it ever since. That's why I don't count this spike as a milestone for Apple until it's sustained, which at least means closing the market with a $1T market cap.

PS: If not for buybacks Apple would've reached this a long time ago.

You make the assumption that the share price would have gone to the necessary number to equal 1T without the buybacks; part of Apple’s value is the company’s buybacks. 

theLedger said:

I picked up on that too - are they comparing Apple's units sold with Hauwei's units shipped? I don't if this is the case but too often in the past I've seen manufacturers stuff the channels with inventory but it looks good for their numbers.

Apple probably shrugged this off anyways - their goal isn't to be #1 - their goal is to be the best. Therefore, cheaper competitors can often outsell Apple though their profits can be paltry compared to Apple. 

It’s probably a fair assumption that just about all of these phones are sold at some point, you can’t just keep filling the channels forever. But we know they will sell at a fraction of the MRSP, much less an iPhone MRSP. 

rogifan_new said:

I’m curious what percentage of the buying public needs a laptop that has the same amount of power as a desktop. Isn’t the whole point of a laptop portability? The Alienware core i9 weighs 9 pounds. I certainly wouldn’t want to be lugging that around. Maybe it was a mistake for Apple (and others) to put the i9 in a ultrabook form factor laptop. People say just make it thicker but I remember when people complained about the 3rd gen iPad being thicker and heavier. If the 15” MBP was now 6 (or more) pounds would people be cheering that? I doubt it. Wired dinged this laptop for not being true 4K. Is that really noticeable in dat to day use? And what would a 4K screen do to battery life and price? The machine is already very expensive. IMO if this machine isn’t powerful enough for somebody then they probably should be using a desktop.

I think what you miss is that the crowd isn’t asking for a 6 pound laptop but was the 2015 body large? I remember it was 4.5 pounds vs 4 (correct me if I’m wrong). It was slightly thicker, was that a non portable laptop? The extra space could have been used for maintaining ports, battery size, and improving thermals. Maybe they wouldn’t allow the maximum use of a processor but they would be cooled better. 

I think the heavy users are concerned the MacBook Pro is becoming the MacBook Air. If we wanted a moderate powered MacBook in 2011, we would buy a MacBook Air. Now you buy was is essentially a very well and full functioning netbook (MacBook) or the Pro which is getting closer to buying a MacBook Air/Pro hybrid. Cutting features in the name of thickness. 

Hopefully they will will keep this chassis for several more years and allow the technology to catch up to the thickness. Hopefully getting faster and reducing thermal demands while improving on the keyboard. 

Rayz2016 said:

seankill said:

StrangeDays said:

entropys said:

Unless he can come up with a user fixable Mac using current technology I can’t hear him.

What kind of DIY repairs do you do to your tablet? Your phone? Your television? Microwave? Car? Ah yeah, none.

Appliance computing is here to stay. DIY tinkering isn’t high on their feature set for the customer base. Get a PC and go crazy.

I have my TV torn apart, replacing the back light, I can attach a picture if you need proof. Microwave? Pretty easy to repair. Car? Maintenance all the time. Repairs from time to time, rarely does it go to the shop unless I am too busy.

Well it could be that most folk have less free time on their hands, because most people don’t have the time or the inclination to fix a microwave.  Same with a laptop.  The reason Apple laptops are not user serviceable is simply because Apple realised that the number of people who want to risk messing up an expensive piece of equipment is practically zero, and once they realised this then they also realised they could make the laptop lighter and more reliable. 

Rayz2016 said:

seankill said:

StrangeDays said:

entropys said:

Unless he can come up with a user fixable Mac using current technology I can’t hear him.

What kind of DIY repairs do you do to your tablet? Your phone? Your television? Microwave? Car? Ah yeah, none.

Appliance computing is here to stay. DIY tinkering isn’t high on their feature set for the customer base. Get a PC and go crazy.

I have my TV torn apart, replacing the back light, I can attach a picture if you need proof. Microwave? Pretty easy to repair. Car? Maintenance all the time. Repairs from time to time, rarely does it go to the shop unless I am too busy.

Well it could be that most folk have less free time on their hands, because most people don’t have the time or the inclination to fix a microwave.  Same with a laptop.  The reason Apple laptops are not user serviceable is simply because Apple realised that the number of people who want to risk messing up an expensive piece of equipment is practically zero, and once they realised this then they also realised they could make the laptop lighter and more reliable. 

The average American has plenty of time, just look how much TV they watch. I average maybe 1HR per week. 
I think it’s depressing how our appliances have gotten. When they break, they are thrown away. I’ve repaired microwaves that people were going to throw away that only needed a $0.50 component. That to avoid paying $100 for a new one. Or my TV, 24$ for a new, like-in-kind (hopefully better) backlight to avoid paying $500 for a new one for a couple more years. 

I do as much maintenance as I can on my car to keep it as cheap as possible. The general maintenance is generally very easy to do. I could afford to have someone else do it but why?

One of the reasons the average American is in so much debt is poor allocation of money, along with the static income rates. 

I havent seen figures on the reliability of soldered vs unsoldered components in a laptop but is that increased reliability enough to justify the crazy repair bills? If it fails half as often but costs three times more to repair, as a user, have you gained anything?