kent909

rpt said:

kent909 said:

Maybe if you have auxiliary power and you don't have enough battery life to get through the day, have you considered that the problem is not battery life but how much time you spend with your phone? Do you spend more time looking at your phone than your family? While that may not be a problem if they are also mesmerized by their little screens at the same time. But you remain outraged while spending all you non phone time detesting thinness. Just an observation. To each his own. Hey if your phone is dead, just pick up that iPad your wife no longer uses. Between the two maybe you can be assured of another day without having to sleep.

Of yes, I really love spending a long day using the phone on a business trip, of course playing games so I dont have to bother about following the ongoing boring negotiations, just being in the red part of the  battery indicator needing the downloaded  boarding pass.

You may not believe it, but there are people using the phone as a professional tool!

The iPhone is the best for that purpose I belive. BUT BATTERY TIME BEATS THE IMPORTANCE OF A FEW FRACTIONS OF AN INCHE IN THICKNESS.

And its a joke that you need to haul around auxiliary power, which usually somehow tends to end up out of reach when really needed.

rpt said:

There are really two things I miss much more in my 5s and 6s than more speed or a better camera.

The battery time is an outrage, and I detest the "thinnest phone ever" competition based on one of Steve's two most stupid statements regarding the iPhone: "look how thin it is" and the one about the original iPone having the only useful size.

Please dont once again hammer me with opinions about battery time (and I do have auxiliary power!). I have/have had 7 iPhones, and my employer have a few thousand users; the common number one grievance is the lack of battery time. After we got used to decent battery time with our last versions of dumb-phones before the iPhone, this has been a constant loss, fortunately not challenged by iPhone's competitors, in what case I probably would have been forced to use Android of some kind.

Regarding size, I much prefer the size of my 6s to my 5s, and my wife is extremely happy with the size of her 6+. So am I because it saved me upgrading her iPad, and to her size is less important carrying a purse. The current size range is in my opinion perfect, and should have been in place long ago, but waiting obviously was a great business decision. 

The other one is the lack of water proofing, once unlucky, this becomes important.

melgross said:

foregoneconclusion said:

The mistake that you're making here, and in some other points, is drawing the conclusion that a sales drop is primarily due to the features/innovation. You don't actually know that. Nobody knows that. In fact, if you look at the flagship smartphone market as a whole, it's unlikely that's the case. Samsung has basically resorted to 2 for 1 deals to increase S7 sales volume. That doesn't exactly show confidence from Samsung in regards to any new hardware/software features they might include vs. the iPhone. 

You really can't go by Samsung these days. The last time they had a sales increase in their "S" series line was with the S4. It's been downhill every since.

Smartphones sales have been flat this year. But Apple's was down 16% last quarter YoY.  That's more than just from a flat market. So it's not that difficult to see that with Apple coming off a major change with the original 6 series that the 6S series failed to excite. While the feature set for the S series is nice, certainly, it's just not exciting, as going to bigger screens, and a new case, was.

This year, with a minor case change, will the rest of the feature set change that ho hum thinking? I don't particularly care, because as I said, we're on a two year upgrade plan. So we'll buy anyway. That's a whole three phones, but not enough to to move the needle.

If it's true that Apple will be making major changes next year, that will be exciting, assuming that what we are reading is mostly true. Major new case, OLED screen. Those alone can up sales more than a bit. And we'll see other upgrades as well, of course. Will we buy? Probably not, as we'll wait until the next year.

antonpablo said:

If they're releasing the iPhone 7 or what is pretty much an iPhone 6ss that looks a lot like the iPhone 6 then Apple has grossly overestimated their orders. They're in for a wide awakening.