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New 13" MacBook Pro w/o Touch Bar keeps pace with higher clocked 2015 Retina model
francophile99 said:To address the "ridiculous price" claim that some are making, I think it may be wise to also consider what is the "value added" to a device like this when Apple introduces an entirely new input technology - the Touch Bar. The jury is out on this because we won't really know until more and more people start using this as a 3rd method of input alongside the best-in-class, multi-touch trackpad and the classic keyboard. If, however, use of this new input method enhances productivity by better enabling human-machine interaction in an ergonomic manner, then the extra several hundreds will be money well-spent when you consider the multi-year lifetime of a solidly designed product like this. Do not underestimate the engineers at Apple and the care and thought that has likely gone on for several years in order to bring a possible game-changer technology to market.
i don't see Apple luring any new users with these prices. As for the existing users, it seems a significant percentage will sit out this cycle of MacBooks by continuing to use their older Macs or buying the previous generation Macs. Some long-term Apple users are so mad that they are saying their next laptop will be a Windows one. Is it worth it to cause such a commotion in the user base by trying to please Wall Street and raise profit margins? Apple thinks so. I disagree. -
New 13" MacBook Pro w/o Touch Bar keeps pace with higher clocked 2015 Retina model
canukstorm said:sirozha said:sflocal said:sirozha said:As it stands now, not a single MacBook Pro released today is priced within reason for the majority of Apple customers...
I'll take a moment to assume that you're simply not trying to pass off complete bullshit as fact and simply ask how you came to the conclusion that this new laptops are priced too high more the majority of Apple customers. Did you interview customers? Focus groups?
Waiting....
Money is no object for me personally. I think these prices are insulting - the same way that a $600 link bracelet for Apple Watch is insulting. When Apple prices some of their products like that while still having reasonably priced choices, I shake my head and chalk it up to a small number of crazy people who are willing to pay this sort of prices. In this case, however, there are no reasonably priced options. Apple probably doesn't really care about maintaining the Mac market share. All they care about now is maintaining or increasing the profit margins. For the first time in over a decade, I have no desire to watch the event. I think this was a really bad decision - from both the design and the pricing perspective. I'm not speaking as a consumer here as much as I'm speaking as a shareholder.
In light of what is going in the PC / Mac industry, you're probably right -
New 13" MacBook Pro w/o Touch Bar keeps pace with higher clocked 2015 Retina model
sflocal said:sirozha said:As it stands now, not a single MacBook Pro released today is priced within reason for the majority of Apple customers...
I'll take a moment to assume that you're simply not trying to pass off complete bullshit as fact and simply ask how you came to the conclusion that this new laptops are priced too high more the majority of Apple customers. Did you interview customers? Focus groups?
Waiting....
Money is no object for me personally. I think these prices are insulting - the same way that a $600 link bracelet for Apple Watch is insulting. When Apple prices some of their products like that while still having reasonably priced choices, I shake my head and chalk it up to a small number of crazy people who are willing to pay this sort of prices. In this case, however, there are no reasonably priced options. Apple probably doesn't really care about maintaining the Mac market share. All they care about now is maintaining or increasing the profit margins. For the first time in over a decade, I have no desire to watch the event. I think this was a really bad decision - from both the design and the pricing perspective. I'm not speaking as a consumer here as much as I'm speaking as a shareholder. -
New 13" MacBook Pro w/o Touch Bar keeps pace with higher clocked 2015 Retina model
ihatescreennames said:sirozha said:As it stands now, not a single MacBook Pro released today is priced within reason for the majority of Apple customers.
I'm extremely upset about what Apple did today as a shareholder with a very sizeable AAPL portfolio (very sizable indeed). They will lose the notebook market share by a large percentage because of the bad decisions that they made with this MacBook Pro release. -
New 13" MacBook Pro w/o Touch Bar keeps pace with higher clocked 2015 Retina model
It makes no sense that the Magicless 13" MacBook Pro released today - when upgraded to the 2.4 GHz CPU - costs the same as the Magicful 13" MacBook Pro, which comes with the 2.9 GHz CPU, Touch Bar, and Touch ID sensor. It looks as though Apple had made a mistake and priced the Magicless 13" MacBook Pro a few hundred dollars too high.
Because the Magicless 13" MacBook Pro comes with a much slower CPU than the Magicful 13" MacBook Pro, and the Magicless MacBook Pro lacks the Touch bar as well as the Touch ID sensor, it should have been priced at $1099 (or $1199 at the most). This could have been the machine that - when upgraded to a higher CPU speed, to 512 GB of SSD and to 16 GB of RAM - could still be had for under $1899. This would still be very expensive for a dual-core laptop but somewhat manageable. As it stands now, not a single MacBook Pro released today is priced within reason for the majority of Apple customers. Perhaps, the Apple executives make way too much money that they have lost all remaining sense of reality at this point.