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cia said:

Fully agree that this iPad exists just so developers can get hands-on with tech that is coming to iPhones this fall.  I have no idea when a truly "new" iPad Pro will be coming out considering the 2018/2020 models are still powerhouses with little competition.

Heck I'm still using my original iPad Pro 12" from years ago and it's working great.

I am also still using the original 12.9” Pro and am seriously considering this upgrade. I am a little saddened by this update as I want it to be as ridiculous as possible, and for no other reason than just cause. 🤓 However, my nerdy desires aside, I have to acknowledge that if my current Pro with its A9X and 4 GB of ram is still meeting my needs after nearly 4.5 years (though, I am noticing its age more so now that I am way more proficient using the multitasking that is available) then this current 2020 iPad Pro will easily last me another 4. And then just think about how amazing the new one I get will be!!!! 😁

netrox said:

Like I said, I think the next iPad will be MacPad running MacOS on ARM as a step to moving MacOS to ARM. It seems to make transition easier.

I am not so sure about this. It seems to me, though keep in mind I use the original 12.9” iPad Pro as my sole computer since 2015 so I may not be completely up to date with MacOS, that the biggest push into AR is via iOS. So IMO making a MacPad just does not make any sense when most of Apple’s AR push is with iOS.

On a side note, as the iPad continues to encroach more and more into what was originally considered traditional computer tasks/work, the biggest differentiator is screen real-estate. The work around for the current iPad is the implementation of split-screen, side view, and other swipe shortcuts. But it still lacks the feel you get with more screen size (even though you can hook up an external monitor, it is not an extended monitor... I think??). This is where I think the magic keyboard comes into play. It may be what is needed for touch control on a non-touch monitor... thoughts??

tht said:

An iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard basically is "Detachable from a MacBook lookalike body with an decent trackpad & magic keyboard and pen". If the Smart Connector was actually a USB 3/4 connector, it'll get ever closer.

So, like with pointer support, eventually iPads will support external, extended displays, and will have an overlapping window UI. Not so sure about app side loading, but probably not. A user will be able to use it at a desk like a laptop or desktop, use it like a laptop, and use it like a tablet. A folding tablet that does all this will be interesting.

I agree with you. I was just thinking about the possibility of extended displays with the iPad. This makes me think that those who are trying to get a ‘real’ os on the iPad are not recognizing that AR is making the biggest splash in the realm of iOS. In my, very limited understanding of how programming works, view, I think that the touch interface iOS has grown into perfectly matches how one would interact with AR objects.

The touch interface I am very curious to see is what the touch pad on the magic folio is going to be like. From the video I am thinking its an imageless iPad screen and the touch and feel of it will be as if you are touching the screen. I wouldn’t be surprised if you could tap a particular segment of the touchpad and it opens the app that is located there. 

PShimi said:

Which is exactly the point. Apple seem to be trying to shift people from buying a traditional laptop, to buying an iPad and accessories. I have no doubt the iPad is cheaper to manufacture, and extra accessories all add profit to Apple's bottom line. Considering this, the iPad is quite simply, over priced. The Air is definitely the better buy, by a long shot. It just isn't as cool and hip as all Apple's ads try to tell you the iPad is.

I am confused by what you are suggesting. You are correlating the iPad with the cost of an iPad Pro, which is disingenuous. If you are simply wanting a consumption device, then the iPad or maybe the iPad Air is for you. These are both substantially cheaper than the Pro. For those that want to supplant their current laptop and iPad workflow with one that is just an iPad, like what I have done, then the iPad Pro is the choice. I could either buy a 64 GB iPad Air and the best MacBook Air for 2188 CDN plus tax OR I could buy a 256 GB 12.9 iPad Pro with the pencil and magic keyboard for 2000 CDN plus tax. For me I would rather have just one device for all my needs, then two; saving me 200 dollars. This may not be for everyone, but it is definitely not over priced.

f1turbo said:

I hope the new keyboard is more reliable/durable than the original.  I have one of those with the original iPad Pros, and have been having lots of problems with it over the past 6 months or so.  Frequently gives me a message that “This accessory is not supported by this device,” doesn’t work, or just keeps beeping until I disconnect it. 

I have also been having the same problem for quite sometime. One of the things that I’ve noticed that helps is to shut down all open windows and hook it up to a power supply. This doesn’t work all the time but it does provide a greater success rate. My thinking on this is that it just can’t keep up. I think this also explains why sometimes the swipe typing doesn’t register what I’m doing or if it does it cannot do words that are longer than 6 letters. But if I give it a moment without any input it starts to work again. I know I’m 4.5 years in and long in the tooth, but for many uses it is still a fantastic machine.