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sdw2001 said:

No one cares unless you're worried about resale.  

Soli said:

dasanman69 said:

Soli said:

anantksundaram said:

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canukstorm said:

AppleGuy3 said:

rogifan_new said:

cali said:

This sounds very un-Apple. WTF is going on?

Why would they license tech and not develop their own product?

Apple excels at the combination of hardware, software and services. If they don't think they can create that magic here I think they should shut the whole thing down. All the big car companies are far down the road of autonomous and self driving vehicles. Even Uber is testing vehicles. What do they need Apple for? To provide a nice looking dashboard UI?

What confuses me is if Apple has decided to shift focus to providing software to existing manufacturers why did Cook put a former hardware executive in charge of the project?

Eventually Apple will give up on car/autonomous driving, because there is a Tesla.
Shutting down now would be a smart thing to do, but they can't do that yet. That's like saying "I was wrong, go find another CEO".

People look at Tesla as if they're the holy grail for the future of the automobile.

How are they not? What Tesla has done as a start up has changed the future of the automotive industry. They are now following Tesla's lead into the future.

Lots of companies have been working on autonomous driving. Just because Tesla has been making a big noise and being public about it doesn't necessarily mean that they are at the forefront, "...lead[ing] into the future". We all know know that there's the Google approach to shouting from a rooftops about the latest and the greatest, and Apple's more subdued approach of waiting until they actually have something close to perfect. The auto industry is no different. 

So Tesla is simply louder than the big car companies when it comes to designing a quality electric car that looks great, is fast, and has great range? Tesla is simply the vocal of the giant car companies when it comes to using modern technology in the cockpit, like a giant IPS display for displaying data to cab? Tesla is simply louder than the giant car companies when it comes to implementing an Autopilot service that allows for useful autonomous, safe driving?

Can you remind me again as to all these other companies and their products that have beaten Tesla and this apparent snake oil salesman that is Elon Musk to the punch at every time in making a truly modern automobile?

You must remember that the major auto manufacturers are beholden to big oil whereas Tesla is not. Moves that jeopardize that relationship are done quietly, and slowly. 

1) Oil companies are beholden to those that use oil, not the other way around. If Ford had the technology Tesla did today a decade ago they would had it on the market because that would push them ahead of all the other automotive companies.

2) Jets use fuel and they still have an autopilot option. Are you saying that jet fuel isn't made from petroleum?

macseeker said:

I wish someone would correct me but I think I read somewhere that eventually Verizon and others will be converting to the GSM standard.

please tell me that I'm dreaming.

i also wonder how many others around the world are using the CDMA standard.

kevin kee said:

rogifan_new said:

So basically Apple is saying launch weekend orders will be the same or less than last year and that's really not anything worthy of a press release.

Basically Apple is saying they will and always be sold out at every launch weekend, so what is the point of announce it? It is meaningless number that is limited only by the supply not demand.

macxpress said:

dasanman69 said:

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dasanman69 said:

nolamacguy said:

like Cook said at launch two years ago, Edition was a limited edition. nothing real controversial about that, tho im sure there will be those will try to spin it as further proof of doom or something.

Everything's a limited edition. Not making it this time around means it didn't sell enough. The whole AW as jewelry experiment didn't pan out exactly as they had hoped. 

Happen to have any numbers to back up that statement?

Who needs numbers when there's cause and effect? We don't know Apple's internal numbers, but we know their reaction to those numbers. 

So in other words...no you don't have numbers to back up your FUD! Next!