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staticx57 said:

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netrox said:

What is surprising is that iPhone 7 Plus is already FASTER than iPad Pro! Just think how it keeps getting faster and faster with no signs of leveling off at all. So, I can see how Apple may eventually use ARM chips in future Macs. Their chip is just way MUCH faster in terms of performance per watt. 

Yep, the iPhone 7 is faster than the entry level MacBook, on both single (3233 vs. 2668) and multi-core (5363 vs. 4886). It's faster than the top line MacBook on single core (3233 vs. 2831) and fairly close on multi-core (5363 vc. 6008). Two more years of this kind of improvement and the iPhone might be benchmarking better than half the Mac line. Something's gotta give.

Imagine they didn't throttle it in a device that had more cooling and wattage available (did I get that right?) with which to contend, such as the AppleTV, or perhaps one day a laptop with A-series. Wonder how this would scream in one of those housings. Very impressive to get all that in a phone, how far before these mobile devices render the need for faster machines for the masses (not those who need power for work and such, but the email/social networking/internet browsing masses) moot?

Theres no secret to the A series, it is the transistor count. At 3.3 billion it is by far the largest cpu ever. It is quite a bit more than the A9 and 1 billion more than the A8. From Anandtech:

Apple SoC Evolution
	Die Size	Transistors	Process
A5	122m2	<1B	45nm
A6	97mm2	<1B	32nm
A7	102mm2	>1B	28nm
A8	89mm2	~2B	20nm
A9	96mm2/104.5mm2	>2B	14nm/16nm

For some other reference. The quad core i7 in my 2012 macbook pro retina has a paltry 1.4 billion transistors with a 1.2 billion transistor GPU. The thing is positively massive. Remember when the A7 came out and Apple said they were building desktop class CPUs, it is quite true.

Apples vs Oranges, you're comparing a CPU vs a SOC.  Of course a SOC will have more transistors.

Intel CPUs do not have radios, BT, nor disk controllers.  

Sadly the Soc upgrade is not important as the screen density is outdated. Pretty sure they are saving that for next year.   Nice of apple for giving people 720p displays on the 4.7 model.   Some $100 phone has a better display. 

Tim is better than Steve at growing Apple profits that's about it.  Apple is at the middle or end of their cycle.  It doesn't have the identity it used to under Steve, it is now a stable matured company waiting for it's next big hit if it ever can find one to buy.  Google has outpaced Apple in innovation because they've taken a few pages from Steve.  

Google realize that it needs to spin off it's business to different parts just like Steve left Apple to start neXT in order to be innovative.  

The next 20 years, Google will outpace both Apple and Microsoft combined because it has set the right pieces in motion and just a matter of time it give them the next big innovation.  

The only thing Tim has done was grow profits with the same product line with more variations.  There has been no big hit since the iPad.  

Most Americans do not want this type of tracking.  

Consider the accounting flexibility that gives businesses all sorts of creative tax advantages.  Paying more taxes won't hurt them, they always find ways to save or cheat the system.