sacto joe

SpamSandwich said:

I think we’ll see an Apple Car before these things. They still sound about 10-15 years off.

With Apple, you never know....

Soli said:

StrangeDays said:

seanismorris said:

Soli said:

seanismorris said:

Before buying an Apple Watch for this feature, you might want to listen to real cardiologists on YouTube.

What does this mean?

It means “You could have an arrhythmia even if your heart is healthy” webmd.

If you listen to a cardiologist they’ll tell you the Apple Watch has questionable value.  Just because a couple instances of the heart monitor gets a person in to see their doctor and there is a problem, that leaves out thousands (?) of unneeded visits and stress that results.  The cardiologist explains that the tests themselves can be harmful (it’s not just listening to the heart).  It’s a numbers game...

Now if you’re an older person or a person with a known problem, owning an Apple Watch makes a lot more sense (if you bought it for that reason).

AW a-fib detection does not use the ECG testing feature, it's passive monitoring based on heart rate. The vast majority of the population will not have false positives. While it is possible a-fib could go undetected, so would it if not wearing AW. Thus, there is absolutely no reason to opt not to use AW for a-fib detection. Except general anti-Apple FUD, of course.

What else ya got?

One might be under the impression that all causes where the Watch alerted the wearer to AFib are being reported by the Apple-focused tech media, but I know of two people who were alerted of AFib (in Series 3 Watches, not the models that included the single-lead ECG feature) repeatedly and eventually went to the doctor because they had also been feeling lethargic lately. Both cases found that AFib was not "a fib" and had emergency surgery to correct the issue. I wonder how many other cases have been detected and resolved but not reported on by the media.

Good point.

So I had a Series 2 Watch. I was at the WorldCon in San Jose last year, and found myself pooping out from just walking around. I checked my heartbeat with my Apple Watch and it registered 145 BPM. Sat down and rested for about 10 minutes. Rechecked and it was still 135 BPM. Woke up that night and checked it lying in bed. 135 BPM. When I got home, went to Urgent Care. Told the doctor, and had to insist they do a cardiogram on me. When the doctor saw the readout, she literally turned white and called the ambulance.

Not only did I catch my atrial fib and my atrial flutter, I also discovered a major issue with my left lung that had gone undetected until then.

I’m still waiting for all those posters who swore Apple would shy away from adult fare to admit they were wr-wr-wrong....

dysamoria said:

Wgkrueger said:

dysamoria said:

lkrupp said:

sarrica said:

The last line ad hominem wasn't needed and undermines the rest of the article.

If that last line describes you then too bad. That last line perfectly describes the crowd that lives here in the AppleInsider forums. That crowd needs to be called out on a regular basis and Dilger is more than capable of doing that. That his editorials trigger these types into rage is proof of their veracity.

Actually, it’s the bitter and defensive Apple bootlickers here like yourself who make the most noise here on THIS forum. Every article is followed by some kind of libertarian and/or pro-Apple defensiveness and hostility toward anyone who dares trying to be objectively critical of Apple. Even DED acknowledged that Apple should not be free of criticism.

Don’t look now but you’ve devolved into the arena of false ad hominem arguments signaling that you really have nothing useful to add to the discussion. 

You’re correct; I went to name-calling. Driven there by the people who start the conversation off on exactly that footing. It can’t possibly go anywhere good when certain people are not censured for repeatedly demonstrating the same behavior others of us are censured for occasionally slipping into.

”The Devil made me do it!”

Own your mistakes, dude.

dysamoria said:

sacto joe said:

dysamoria said:

neilm said:

I don't know that there was any need to reopen and reargue the whole Pro Stand issue, much less in 1,955 words. But this article is nonetheless completely on point: the stand is an elaborately engineered product, built in low volume for the professional market. (That Sony 4K rig shopping list provides a telling comparison.) Don't like it? Then don't buy it. 

As usual with such things, the loudest voices of internet outrage are from people who aren't even remotely part of the target market.

Many of us USED TO BE part of the target market. We were used to considering ourselves part of that target market, and we were waiting for Apple to resume selling effective product to us. We don’t know why Apple have decided we don’t matter to them any more. All we know is that Apple have placed their ONLY heavy-duty machine WAY out of our price range.

Oh, cry me a river. We paid the equivalent of a Mac Pro plus Pro Display plus $1 K stand in 1984 for the original Mac plus and dot matrix printer ($3K). Tiny screen and two programs, MacWrite and MacPaint. And we barely cleared the credit line our incomes were so low.

Best Investment Ever.

I’m pretty tired of this false comparison. Other people have already pointed out why this is flawed logic, yet it keeps persisting. There’s so much special pleading offered up for Apple’s bizarre marketing choice with THIS round of product branded “Mac Pro”.

And yet - you don’t say how the logic is flawed....