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  • Chinese hackers suspected of attacking global telecoms carriers

    sacto joesacto joe
    Wow! Apologists for hacking! “Everybody does it” is a lousy excuse. The only excuse for hacking is to stop the hacking.
    magman1979olscat52anantksundaramwatto_cobra

  • Facebook VP Nick Clegg attacks Apple over privacy criticism

    sacto joesacto joe
    This person doesn’t want folks to look at Apple’s installed base or the discounted software and services it provides. If folks did look, they’d see hundreds of millions using perfectly usable used Apple products.
    watto_cobra

  • Apple debuts new $5999 Mac Pro with up to 28-core Xeon processors

    sacto joesacto joe
    cgWerks said:

    I got fed up waiting for a new reasonably priced expandable Mac Pro a few months ago, and boy I'm glad I stopped waiting based on this stratospheric pricing.

    ...

    It’s disheartening for someone who has been owning and using macs since 1987.

    ...

    As a note using a standard PC desktop price decrease graph I found and taking the ratio for my $2,689 dual processor 8 core mac pro in 2008 -  I would expect to pay $1,900 for my next 8 core mac Pro with a 1 TB SSD which is the norm these days, not $5999 starting for 256GB!

    Congrats on your build! But, I just had to make a few comments in regard to your post.

    First, what Mac did you buy in 1987? I'm not aware of any budget-priced Macs back then. The first reasonably priced Mac was the LC (my first Mac). I couldn't afford one before then, and used ones other people owed. (One of my friends had a Mac II that his university-comp-sci-prof brother was able to get.)

    Second, I'm kind of amazed at all this outcry on the pricing. What did anyone expect? There is no way in heck it was going to cost under $5k, no matter what it was. And, you could buy the $6 machine, in this case, and then expand for years and years (though, the ARM Mac thing would make me a bit nervous long-term this time).

    Third... could you really get a Mac Pro in 2008 for $2689? If so, that falls into what I was complaining about a bit above. For a SMALL period of time, Apple delivered some really great stuff for relatively low prices. But, that was the exception, not the norm for long-term Apple users. I'm sad to see them move away from that, and I understand the outcry from everyone who jumped onboard then... but context is important, here.

    And, as I've been saying over and over... until Apple creates an xMac (which they might never do), there are other solutions like the one sitting on my desk... a 2018 mini and eGPU. It isn't exactly what I wanted, but it works great, and is in some ways better than the xMac I would have asked Apple to make.
    I appreciate your level-headedness. We need more of that - and not just on this forum!

    ”I would agree, EXCEPT that Apple pulled a lot of people onto the platform with reasonably priced devices and computers in the mid-2000s.”

    Sorry. Can’t buy it, especially in this person’s case. That’s going on to 15 years ago. Past time to move on. And as I said elsewhere, I get to talk, because I’m an original 1984 Mac owner, who paid $4 K for that machine and a dot matrix printer, and even then had to buy it on credit, which I barely qualified for. Don’t know if it would come to $12 K in today’s dollars, but it would have been a major chunk of that. To say that this Mac is a far cry from that Mac is a far cry indeed. But it changed my life for the better even so.

    The subject of this article is the new Mac Pro, not some hypothetical system that you wish Apple would build that would fit your personal bill. Moaning about how you can’t afford this machine is nothing more than a fake platform for bellyaching in general.
    fastasleep

  • Apple debuts new $5999 Mac Pro with up to 28-core Xeon processors

    sacto joesacto joe
    dysamoria said:

    sacto joe said:
    dysamoria said:
    As for this computer... it looks neat, but Apple has quite clearly dropped me from consideration as a customer. Nothing they sell fits what I need. I can not afford to replace a computer every three years. I’ve been waiting for something worth spending a lot of money on and keeping for ten years. Ha ha ha ha ha...

    [... snip...]

    Now we’re back to the same mess of laissez-faire capitalism, inconsistency, unreliability, and “priced out of access” that it was before. “Less bad than PC” isn’t a good enough status.

    Screw it all.
    Of all the navel-gazing, narsististic, bellyaching, irrelevant-to-the-subject posts I’ve ever read, yours is right up there at the top of the heap. I have more than a nodding familiarity with being poor. It was Apple in large measure that’s responsible for my leaving that world behind - well, Apple and an amazing wife.

    Blaming Apple or computers or the world for your plight may seem justified, but it’s an anchor. You’ve made one right decision in your life: You stuck with Apple. Time to dig in and make the most of that.
    Lucky you. Go learn about your bias: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias ... or by all means just keep ignorantly slamming people who haven’t had your luck. Typical of people around here.
    This from the person who said in that same diatribe: “I can’t stand...the privileged cultists on this forum who can’t stand a bit of rational discourse without acting like ego-bruised know-it-all children, who are happy to smear and marginalize anyone less well off than them).”

    Sorry about your bruised ego....
    roundaboutnowfastasleepdocno42

  • Editorial: The new Mac Pro is overkill for nearly everybody, and it hit Apple's own target...

    sacto joesacto joe
    We’ll always have the “just give me the bare bones and let me build my own” crowd. But just think, folks, about how much fun you’ll have in 5 years when you can buy the low end model for half price and really go to town!
    watto_cobra