sacto joe

Heart Doc said:

"...I don't want 100 out of 101 people spending their hard earned money at the primary care doctor's office or emergency room getting tests to confirm or exclude the diagnosis. If you are worried about atrial fibrillation, then there are many better portable methods to diagnose it that do not require a doctor's visit...."

How nice of  you to worry about the hard earned money of people. Kind of their choice, isn't it?

And the Apple ECG app is directed at people who AREN'T "worried about atrial fibrillation", but should be. That's kind of the whole point of the Watch ECG feature that you glossed over there....

"...As we can see from Appleinsider (https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/08/30/apple-watch-other-wearables-increasingly-used-to-manage-chronic-health-conditions-study-says), the average age of an Apple Watch use is 41 years old with ~10% over 60. The incidence of atrial fibrillation in this group would be well below 1% and the 1% threshold is crossed after age 55 years (Europace (2013) 15, 486–493). "

Again, so what if 99% of people don't have a medical issue? How many of them are going to be shelling out "hard earned money" finding out they don't have anything wrong? There might be a few cases where someone gets a false reading. The normal sane person would take multiple readings before jumping to conclusions and heading off to the emergency room.

Finally, your whole focus of treating people like statistics just grates on me. I wouldn't have you as a doctor if you paid me.

doctwelve said:

I'm starting to feel pure unadulterated anger towards the trashy Verge website lately. Soooo sick of hearing opinions gussied up as journalism. And they really have it in for Apple at the moment. Even the Doctor angered me. "Apple watch might help people over 65 but they aren't tech savy." What? I live in Seattle and there are probably 30 or so people well over 65 who go to my gym. Guess what they're all wearing on their wrist. 

Appleinsider is quickly becoming the reality check on the BS written about Apple everywhere else. Glad you are, but sad you have to. 

In passing, appleinsider.com and ped30.com are both accused of being one-sided in favor of Apple. I prefer your interpretation of them as being a BS reality check.

On the main subject, About a half a year ago, I literally discovered that I have a-fib and atrial flutter because of my using the Gen 3 Apple Watch to discover, and consequently check on, a racing heartbeat. If I'd had the Apple Watch's ECG capability, I likely would have been alerted sooner.

And beyond that, as the investigation of my heart has continued, another major issue with my lungs that I almost certainly would have missed has been discovered.

I'm going to be 73 in March, btw....

The bottom line here is that analysts have to blame the restatement of earnings on something, so the false meme is that it's the lack of demand for the XR.

GeorgeBMac said:

Actually, although the writer clearly doesn't understand her subject matter, I'm glad to see these stories:

They help take Apple down off its pedestal so that they get back to focusing on creating great products that make people's lives better -- instead of always striving for a mark to be always growing, always climbing and always better than any competitor -- regardless of who the competitor is or what they do.

That's a mountain built on pride that is a lot easier to climb than to stand on top of.

Now they can get back to just making great products and services.

Oh, please, George. Apple has ALWAYS focused "on creating great products that make people's lives better". If you don't know that, you don't know Apple.

plantdude said:

Why would anyone pay $749 or more for a phone? That is a ridiculous amount of money.

...and yet another plebe makes his first post on Appleinsider....