brian green

For those of you who currently own an Apple TV, is there a compelling reason to choose the 64GB model over the 32GB?  I'm not a gamer, and have my iTunes content on my iMac.  Thanks in advance for your help.

sog35 said:

lkrupp said:

Trouble is we hear abut these hires and special projects and nothing ever comes of them. Still relying on the iPhone to keep the ship afloat. Everything else appears to be a ‘hobby’. Sort of like Google’s barge in San Francisco bay. You’d think the world’s most valuable company, drenched in cash, would be able to juggle several major products at the same time. But everything is always ‘in the pipeline’ isn’t it?  New iMacs? In the pipeline. New Mac Pro? In the pipeline. Streaming packages? In the pipeline. Self-driving vehicle? Maybe in the pipeline. VR/AR? In the pipeline. AppleTV? Only God knows. That pipeline should be constipated by now. Apple = iPhone and Google = Advertising. And not much else.

Services.

That's bigger than Facebook.

Apple Watch.

That's bigger than Amazon Echo.

Airpods.

A multi-billion dollar company

Apple Music. Another multiple billion company.

Mac just had its biggest quarter ever.

iPad is still the #1 tablet in the world.

WTF more do you want?

You know full well what we want.  It's what we actually used to get.  You know...new Macs.  How 'bout them apples?  Apple has truly screwed people over with all of their supposed R&D and what have we gotten to show for it?  A BS Touch Bar on a laptop with practically no ports?  Is that what you're suggesting is so great?  Because let's be entirely clear here, the headphones are cute and all, but I don't care about them in the least when it's new Mac's we're after.  Not sure what the folks at Apple are actually doing, but they certainly aren't releasing new Macs.  Hell, I've had a 4k TV for over two years now, and I can't even get an AppleTV that can push 4k.  What the hell are they waiting for?  What the hell are they actually doing?  They certainly aren't releasing stuff, and don't even get me started on their "Innovating, my ass" comment and their entire lack of upgrades for the Mac Pro.  

If Apple wants to actually Innovate, they've got to stop blaming the lack of new chips and the lack of this or that, and actually innovate a way around it.  That's what innovation is.  It's finding a solution when none of the options are working.  They are "supposedly" spending all of this money on R&D.  Well if they are, they certainly don't have teams actually designing and pushing out new Macs.  But you're right.  If all you ever care about is the iPhone, iPad, and Watch, then things are certainly looking rosy.  They are damn splendid even.  For the rest of us, we're getting hosed and Apple doesn't seem to care, which is what is truly upsetting.  So get Phil's ass out on stage and get us some new Macs that aren't slight tweaks to existing models.  Innovate damn it.  Innovate.

It would seem to me that in the 21st Century, we'd have news that cited every one of its facts much like a scientific paper does. If you state something as fact in an article, it needs to be cited. Any "anonymous" sources need to be labeled as such and questioned by all. Most articles fail to cite the sources with direct links, much like a scientific paper does, and I think that would go a long way toward solving this issue. Bibliographies are a good thing.

anantksundaram said:

Holy shįî. I hope someone from the company is paying attention to this stunning conversation. 

I think we may may be in the midst of a Trumpster-level mindshift in the Apple faithful. I am sensing a serious sentiment shift. 

It'd be great if Apple actually DID pay attention, but I don't see evidence of them doing so in any meaningful way.  Siri has been around for a rather long time, and yet many of us out here feel like Apple hasn't pushed forward and made it great.  If they are working to improve it with their various acquisitions and hiring additional personnel, that work has yet to be realized.  I'm underwhelmed by their performance, as are many on this forum.  For once, it'd be great if Apple actually listened to their customers on an issue and actually did something to fix it.  Siri has a long way to go to actually be a Digital Assistant.

jbdragon said:

sog35 said:

Why is Apple even doing this?

Just gives more fuel to the fire that making iPhones in the USA is a good idea.

More then $200 more on the base price iPhone is just crazy. To get a Plus version with 256 gig's will be like $1500. Who's going to pay these kind of prices? I'm not going to pay $880 for a lowest end iPhone. I'd have to go to the crap Android Platform.

You don't seem to understand the gravity of this situation.  The Android phones are all made outside of the US.  That means that they, too, will have a tariff placed upon them.  While they may be seen as less expensive, the days of a "free phone" from any provider would be over.  

That said, I'm all for bringing manufacturing back to the US.  Will that provide jobs in assembly?  Probably not.  But it'll sure as hell provide jobs working on all of the robotics and other equipment.  Any job created in this sector is a good thing if it happens here in the US.  That's a few more robotics engineers hired.  That's logistics people hired.  That's janitorial staff hired.  That's more solar added to the grid (because we all know Apple would have panels on top).  That's jobs here in this country rather than somewhere else.  As for everyone complaining that products would be too expensive, that's the Walmart mentality and I'm not at all interested in going "cheap".  My 256GB iPhone 7 Plus cost me $969 before taxes.  I paid it without worry.  If it goes up to $1500, I'll pay that too.  If all of the individual electronic components end up with tariffs on them, manufacturing of those components will spin up here in the US as well, considering the consumer base of those components are used in would reach beyond Apple into all of the electronics that people purchase that would also be impacted by the tariffs.  That means that the components won't be shipped here and just assembled in the US to skirt the tariffs.  The individual components would also have tariffs placed upon them raising the cost of them to match what it would cost to manufacture them here (that's what tariffs are for after all - leveling the playing field so that products produced outside the country end up costing the same as products produced within the country).  Bring that manufacturing to the US.  As for the Chinese doing their own cost-benefit analysis, I'm not at all surprised that they would find moving manufacturing outside of China to be a bad thing.  It's precisely the same stance we have.  

The L.A. Times did a story on tariffs that you all might find particularly enlightening.  You can read it here:

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-navarro-trump-trade-china-tariffs-20160721-snap-story.html

I see this as nothing but a good thing for the US and the people whom live here.  It's a whole lot of jobs created here.  I'll let the Chinese worry about themselves.