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SpamSandwich said:

I don’t give two shits what are the opinions of “the world” or China. Neither should any American.

I feel that way about everything you write.  Do you even understand what political freedom means as an "American"?  Who are you to dictate what any Americans should think, you fascist!  Nationalism is nonsense:  http://web.inter.nl.net/users/Paul.Treanor/nationstate.html

SpamSandwich said:

This needs to be an automatic death penalty offense.

And if China is behind this, it’s as good as a declaration of war.

Of course you think that.  But most people in the USA are opposed to fascism, thank goodness.

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netling said:

viclauyyc said:

Just wait for China to force Apple/Tesla/amazon to sell their Chinese arm of service.

i hate Chinese government and Taitok. But this is no way a fair deal.

China hasn't allowed or kick out; Google, Facebook, Twitter, Apple US servers (All Apple Server must be located in China for Chinese users), Amazon only through allowing exporting they killed Amazon China internally, the list goes on and on and on...  You see China has been GAMING the USA for a long time and Obama, Bush, Democrats, and Republicans have been played!  POTUS is the FIRST president to stand up against them and we need to because they plan on bankrupting us by allowing China brands to overtake U.S. owed brands and are getting away with it.  Amazon has become China bit*h and is the Alibaba of the USA.  Lookup the China UN postal treaty and see how the USA taxpayers subsidize China Post to mail goods from China.  China government subsidies shipping to the USA and we the taxpayer pay to delivered address.  I can ship from Shenzen China to you CHEAPER than I can send from Any USA address to you!!!!!? WTF!

Yes!

It's like Trump not paying any federal income tax.  It just means China is smart.

Xed said:

larryjw said:

mtriviso said:

Sigh. Just open the movie theaters. There's nothing like watching a movie in a massive IMAX 3D theater. If people are frightened they might get the rona, then just stay at home. Please, just let the rest of us who are unafraid enjoy what our acting troupes have to offer in the milieu to which we have become accustomed. 

Frightened? Maybe informed. My grandparents and parents were WWI and WWII generations. And I'm a boomer pre-vaccine and pre-antibiotics. We know disease and pandemics first hand. 

In reviewing census data for genealogy I would run across families asked how many children did you have? 14. How many still living? 4. My grandparents lost young siblings  and cousins to disease. STDs were a big problem among girls and guys in uniform stateside during WWII -- my mother's job was to help treat them. So was TB -- sanitariums built across the nation to confine them. Nobody thought it was bravery to not care if you came down with these diseases. Certainly, there was sympathy sometimes, but getting sick and not pulling your weight was morally reprehensible. 

Being brave by ignoring a disease. My father's WWII diary mentions some other GI's getting sick -- great way to stay behind for some R&R while others did the fighting for you. Malingering was a problem and pissed off others pulling their weight. 

And I had the pleasure of contracting polio during the 50's epidemic. It was no fun. 

So, coming down with Covid-19 when you are fortunate enough to be able to take precautions is really morally reprehensible -- not willing to pull your weight. 

We’ve done such a great job of removing those health care issues that too many people (even many that lived through it) don’t believe they are real issues.

This video explains very well how antivaxers think, which also covers a lot of the poor judgment with this pandemic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzxr9FeZf1g

I used to think like that.  Then one day I actually took the time to watch Vaxxed.  None of those people are "anti-vaxxers".  They're all parents of vaccine injured children, or in the case of Vaxxed II, people injured themselves.  The issue is vaccine safety, not the viability or usefulness of vaccines.  Look up Pluserix or Trivirex if you want to know what I mean.  So many people dog pile onto "anti-vaxxers" without watching or reading a single thing vaccine safety advocates say.  At present, pharmaceutical companies have no liability for vaccine injury, which is problematic.  The federal government pays all claims for legitimate injuries.  This is why a massive propaganda campaign was launched against anyone who tries to point out egregious harm - because Uncle Sam is on the hook for liability.  Even the CDC admits prior episodes of contamination where vaccines actually gave people the disease they were trying to prevent (in this case Polio):  https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.html

The safety threshold for vaccines is no where near as high as for other pharmaceuticals.  And they don't do double blind studies on effectiveness or safety with a control group that isn't vaccinated.  The political expediency of herd immunity means people have decided to sacrifice some minority for the whole, but that doesn't sit well when you or your kid is the one who is damaged permanently.  Let these people speak without ridiculing them blindly.

If we don't get freedom I want communism.  They can at least pay for my education, healthcare, housing and food if I'm gonna be spied on and manipulated by a huge military industrial complex anyway.  I thought freedom from this crap was the whole justification for putting up with the cruelty of capitalism.