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stuke said:

No one forced you to buy an iPhone nor iPad since 2007. No one also forced you to purchase any smartphone application on the App Store if you did buy an iPhone or iPad.  Get off your high horse and innovate something out of the EU that the rest of the world finds useful, helpful, and or impactful, and is willing with their one free will to pay for that value. 

@Apple, quit selling in the EU Block. It will last for 3-6 months before the findings are negated. . 

GeorgeBMac said:

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muthuk_vanalingam said:

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CloudTalkin said:

StrangeDays said:

CloudTalkin said:

I don't know man.  This feels like typical Apple: deny, deny, deny the thing.  Right up until the moment they introduce the thing.  I just feel like MacOS has been slowly but surely iOSified (iPadOSified if you will) more and more.  Could I just be reinforcing my preconceived notions with non-coincidental coincidences?  Probably.  Likely.  

It hasn’t tho. They’ve added a couple things on the surface, like the notifications center. But fundamentally Mac computing is a different use case and user experience. 

They’ve been saying this perfectly clearly for years now. Does that mean there will never be a next-thing? No. But Jos was clear, just like Craig was clear.

You really like using that graphic huh?  As for the OS unification, I freely admit I could be wrong and admitted as much in the comment you quoted.  The clarity of their statements means little in this circumstance though.  Previous declarations about different things were just as emphatic, right up to the point they weren't.  As I said, it's just a feeling.  It's not a prognostication or anything grand.  If it turns out I'm wrong, no big deal.  If it turns out I'm right I'm an omniscient all seeing God.  I can live with either outcome.

They weren't nearly as emphatic. And the market around them changed in some cases. So if another company like MS, or Samsung produced a hybrid device that was actually useful then they would think about it. For now they clearly mean what they have said. Its not like they are not trying to make cross  ( Apple) platform coding easier, they are working full belt on that, SwiftUI being the most portable. In the middle of these efforts they are clearly saying - no merging. 

And the history of the operating systems  that Apple produces is one of divergence, not convergence. From OS X, to iOS, iPad Os, watchOS and tvOS.

George is absolutely correct on this topic. He is NOT asking for merging the iOS and MacOS. He is simply expecting 2 different OSes to run in same hardware which is very much capable of doing that (M1 iPad Pro) in different scenarios, based on user selection. There is NOTHING out of ordinary in that ask from George. It is a perfectly valid expectation.

IF Apple does not take this path, the ONLY reason would be shareholder's interest - i.e. sell 2 devices to customers to increase revenue instead of selling 1 device which is capable of performing both the functions (tablet & laptop) equally well. If that is the decision that Apple takes, then that would be a bad move on the part of Apple. We will have to wait and see which way they go.

The only reason? You have no idea of the technical differences between the macOS and iOs.  Or how kludgy a solution of connecting a keyboard and seeing your screen totally change ( is it a reboot by the way), some of your apps not working at all, and entire changes to how you have to work.  And where are all the ports going to go, into the wireless keyboard? 

He does understand the difference.  That's why, because they are now essentially the same hardware, either OS should able to run effectively on either machine.   While nobody is suggesting that (a weak) iPadOS run on Macs, letting the M1 iPad switch to MacOS when it is in laptop configuration would significantly increase its power, flexibility and appeal.

ireland said:

Attach a keyboard with trackpad and the system transitions to a macOS UX. 

muthuk_vanalingam said:

asdasd said:

CloudTalkin said:

StrangeDays said:

CloudTalkin said:

I don't know man.  This feels like typical Apple: deny, deny, deny the thing.  Right up until the moment they introduce the thing.  I just feel like MacOS has been slowly but surely iOSified (iPadOSified if you will) more and more.  Could I just be reinforcing my preconceived notions with non-coincidental coincidences?  Probably.  Likely.  

It hasn’t tho. They’ve added a couple things on the surface, like the notifications center. But fundamentally Mac computing is a different use case and user experience. 

They’ve been saying this perfectly clearly for years now. Does that mean there will never be a next-thing? No. But Jos was clear, just like Craig was clear.

You really like using that graphic huh?  As for the OS unification, I freely admit I could be wrong and admitted as much in the comment you quoted.  The clarity of their statements means little in this circumstance though.  Previous declarations about different things were just as emphatic, right up to the point they weren't.  As I said, it's just a feeling.  It's not a prognostication or anything grand.  If it turns out I'm wrong, no big deal.  If it turns out I'm right I'm an omniscient all seeing God.  I can live with either outcome.

They weren't nearly as emphatic. And the market around them changed in some cases. So if another company like MS, or Samsung produced a hybrid device that was actually useful then they would think about it. For now they clearly mean what they have said. Its not like they are not trying to make cross  ( Apple) platform coding easier, they are working full belt on that, SwiftUI being the most portable. In the middle of these efforts they are clearly saying - no merging. 

And the history of the operating systems  that Apple produces is one of divergence, not convergence. From OS X, to iOS, iPad Os, watchOS and tvOS.

George is absolutely correct on this topic. He is NOT asking for merging the iOS and MacOS. He is simply expecting 2 different OSes to run in same hardware which is very much capable of doing that (M1 iPad Pro) in different scenarios, based on user selection. There is NOTHING out of ordinary in that ask from George. It is a perfectly valid expectation.

IF Apple does not take this path, the ONLY reason would be shareholder's interest - i.e. sell 2 devices to customers to increase revenue instead of selling 1 device which is capable of performing both the functions (tablet & laptop) equally well. If that is the decision that Apple takes, then that would be a bad move on the part of Apple. We will have to wait and see which way they go.

ireland said:

Attach a keyboard with trackpad and the system transitions to a macOS UX. Add external mouse and external keyboard via Bluetooth and the system transitions to macOS. Do none of that: iPad OS. Just to make this happen they need to rename the Files app to Finder and add the other missing apps such as Calculator and Dictionary and Terminal and Text Edit etc. And on the Mac replace Automator with Shortcuts. Users could literally run macOS after attaching to their magic keyboard and they could pull the iPad off the magnets and it would seamlessly switch back to iPadOS.

Its vastly more complex than that, but even the UI transition you mention there is a night-mare. And not all apps are being made for both platforms, nor should they be.