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CloudTalkin said:

StrangeDays said:

CloudTalkin said:

I don't know man.  This feels like typical Apple: deny, deny, deny the thing.  Right up until the moment they introduce the thing.  I just feel like MacOS has been slowly but surely iOSified (iPadOSified if you will) more and more.  Could I just be reinforcing my preconceived notions with non-coincidental coincidences?  Probably.  Likely.  

It hasn’t tho. They’ve added a couple things on the surface, like the notifications center. But fundamentally Mac computing is a different use case and user experience. 

They’ve been saying this perfectly clearly for years now. Does that mean there will never be a next-thing? No. But Jos was clear, just like Craig was clear.

You really like using that graphic huh?  As for the OS unification, I freely admit I could be wrong and admitted as much in the comment you quoted.  The clarity of their statements means little in this circumstance though.  Previous declarations about different things were just as emphatic, right up to the point they weren't.  As I said, it's just a feeling.  It's not a prognostication or anything grand.  If it turns out I'm wrong, no big deal.  If it turns out I'm right I'm an omniscient all seeing God.  I can live with either outcome.

They weren't nearly as emphatic. And the market around them changed in some cases. So if another company like MS, or Samsung produced a hybrid device that was actually useful then they would think about it. For now they clearly mean what they have said. Its not like they are not trying to make cross  ( Apple) platform coding easier, they are working full belt on that, SwiftUI being the most portable. In the middle of these efforts they are clearly saying - no merging. 

And the history of the operating systems  that Apple produces is one of divergence, not convergence. From OS X, to iOS, iPad Os, watchOS and tvOS.

lkrupp said:

It sure looks to me like macOS and iOS are already merged. Apple made running iOS apps on the new iMac 24 part of their dog and pony show. Someone described the iMac 24 as an iPad on a stick and except for a touch screen that isn't far from the truth. By the way how DO you run iOS apps on the M1 Macs? Do you have access to the iOS App Store?

Thats nothing like merging the two. macOS  has a different user interface to iOS, a totally different paradigm. A mouse driven paradigm vs a touch paradigm. A mostly open paradigm vs a closed paradigm. A desktop vs a mobile OS. 

Yes they can run some iOS apps into macOS where they work badly in the absence of a touch screen ( but developers could always do that), but merging macOS into iOS would either remove macOS, annoying all of us who want a desktop system, or it would be macOS.

macOS > iOs, at least in terms of software. In terms of hardware gimcracks iOS has haptic responses, GPS, accelerometer. Apps written for iOS using these are useless on macOS. 

 I have an M1 and I use the iOs apps very rarely. I just tried a weather app and it looks just about ok. It is is a resizable window but the layout isn't very Mac like. Tabs are at the bottom, not the top. Probably these should be in a sidebar. A dedicated Mac app would have a menu item as well. 

(With SwiftUI they have handled this with the same code base producing different outputs. What appears as a navigation to a second screen on iOS appears as master details on Mac and iPad. )

I was fairly pleased with this event. A new iMac, Apple TV, new product in AirTags, and most importantly a decent remote! I'll be getting the tags and the remote. I expect Apple isn't done with the aTV yet, and also I expect some more Macs in WWDC.

The remote is the best thing, good night Johnny Ive and don't let the door hit ya on the way out. Or do. Who cares.

spliff monkey said:

neillwd said:

Hate the remote.

Came here to say exactly that. It reminds me of the old remotes before they used a touch pad. I dread “click, click, clicking” around m the screen rather than just a swipe which can get me to the other side of the screen in a single gesture. 

Thought I was the only one who liked and understood what the touch remote accomplished. 

When did that ever work? Anyway they said you can swipe across the top wheel.

Stopthebully said:

eightzero said:

crowley said:

melgross said:

I’m so tired of hearing about Air Tags. This isn’t going to be a big product, particularly if they’re $39 each as the new Samsung product is. I just don’t see that many being sold at that price. Even the third party products at $29 aren’t doing that well.

I agree.  I hope they don't get more a few minutes of stage time, as otherwise Apple are really stretching for news.

There's more to these than meets the eye. These are by definition tracking devices. Think about that. This from the world's most valuable corporation that has made privacy - the antithesis of tracking -  a flagship product feature. WCGW?

Last time i checked, my iPhone sends my data to Apple who sells it for “Personalized ads.” this setting came turned on by default in iOS 14. Please enlighten me about how Apple makes you feel so safe with your privacy?

What was turned off in iOS 14 is other companies doing that, which is easy enough to google. Facebook for instance are hostile to Apple on this. iAD is dead and Apple don't do this anymore.