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GeorgeBMac said:

allmypeople said:

GeorgeBMac said:

If, as he says, it's all about Trump's trade war, then that will no longer be necessary once we can return to facing our real enemy:  Russia.

The UK said the same:   They were bowing to Trump's geopolitical pressure at the expense of their own best interests....

And as to there being "infrastructure anywhere" -- we saw how false that statement is as China quickly returned to full production while India and the U.S. are still struggling to control the virus.

Russia is a glorified gas station masquerading as a country. Texas has a 5th the population and a much bigger economy. I recommend not listening to hysterical cable news political activists and instead to think for yourself. 

You're carrying water for the CPP which has *ACTUAL* concentration camps and does organ harvesting. There's no freedom of speech or thought for that matter.

The west has allowed the CPP to exploit the hardworking Chinese people so that corporations can squeeze out extra profits. 

I'm APPL long. I personally and my family have made between 1.7-2 million dollars combined in our Apple investments. Up until 5 years ago, we were ignorant and had no interest in China. Since then we've been very vocal shareholders.  I doubt Apple listened to us but there's a large group of shareholders that we're part of that has been pushing Apple to diversify its manufacturing because China (CPP controlled) is NOT the future. Apple is doing this and it's great news.

LOL   You aren't aware that Russia attacked our elections in

-- 2016

-- 2018

-- 2020

   
Really?   Seriously?   Our intelligence communities have confirmed that a number of times now.

Oh yeh, I forgot!   Trump told you to ignore Russia and blame China for everything!    Got it!   He still needs their help to keep his butt out of jail!  

john_t said:

99% of what comes out of China is cheap crap that breaks within half a year. It would be a shock, but it’s better for all of us to start producing again in our own countries. We’ve let China get away with blatant human rights violations long enough. They’re bullying the entire planet, and they’ve been expanding both militarily and economically. It’s time this stops. 

GeorgeBMac said:

If, as he says, it's all about Trump's trade war, then that will no longer be necessary once we can return to facing our real enemy:  Russia.

The UK said the same:   They were bowing to Trump's geopolitical pressure at the expense of their own best interests....

And as to there being "infrastructure anywhere" -- we saw how false that statement is as China quickly returned to full production while India and the U.S. are still struggling to control the virus.

elijahg said:

But everyone here keeps saying the transition is just a simple tickbox! ߙ䠉t is in the most basic of circumstances but not always.

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Rayz2016 said:

Thought I’d post this because by the way some people here talk, I think they’ve forgotten that China has actual human beings living there  

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-53566460

I hate the Chinese government and their attack on American IP. That has nothing to do with the working citizen earnings his/her hard earned pay.

Yet this hate is very recent. Wasn’t Russia the monster last year? Then Libya before that. Iran all the time. Then Iraq, Syria, Venezuela. Anywhere the empire is challenged. This time though there are conflicting elite interests. A war against Iraq doesn’t harm US industry all that much or even trade sanctions with Iran or whomever. This trade war could cripple US industry, and the US is also at trade war with the EU. Therefore expect industry pushback. None of this would bring jobs home. Applying tariffs to Foxconn unless they assemble in the US might have helped but this isn’t about that, it’s about “national security” or sabre rattling.

You are correct. The hate is very recent. Some of that is due to the current U.S. President, but most is due to the fact that China has become more repressive, and more militarized, under Xi Jinping. It doesn't help that Hong Kong has a new security law that is extremely repressive, nor that there are numerous human rights violations by the PRC.