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linuxplatform said:

DAalseth said:

Part of the problem is they keep lumping together companies that have nothing to do with each other. 

This isn’t like Big Oil, or Big Steel, or even the oft repeated Big Pharma. These companies use computers, but that’s about the only thing they have in common. 

If someone wants to go after Amazon or Google, then go after them. But saying they are going to crack down on Big Tech, is a code word for not doing anything.

Yeah ... that is basically NIMBYism in a nutshell. "Leave my favorite company alone. Go after the companies whose products and services I do not use and that I personally have some axe to grind against (which is usually that they compete against my favorite company)" and because of this nothing gets done.

I have made this point several times on here: a lot of the ways this issue gets viewed and covered is due to the undeniable fact that 95+% of the media is A) left-liberal or progressive and longtime fans of both Apple as a company and the products they make. The media has decades of seeing Apple as the scrappy underdog taking on the establishment, first IBM and then Wintel. They haven't adapted to the new market reality. Or they have, don't care, think that it is good that Apple is this massive and powerful and wants everybody else to be like them. Without caring that not everyone likes Apple as much as they do or benefit from the Apple philosophy as much as they do, and the people that don't are just dismissed/derided as "Apple haters."

But here is the reality:

A) data gathering and analytics and ad-targeting are all perfectly legal and have been for ages
this was being done long before Google and Facebook existed
C) there are tons of companies and entities whose gathering and use of data are far "less ethical" and come much closer to skirting legality than does Google and Facebook

All 3 of those points are unimpeachable. But because Apple has said "we are good because we sell hardware and Google/Facebook are bad because they give you free products that you pay for with your data and privacy" everyone buys it hook line and sinker. Why? Because Apple says so! It has nothing to do with Apple preferring that you buy their products and not a competitor's! No! Apple has been fighting the establishment ever since the 70s - remember that Super Bowl commercial against IBM? - so they're not big business! They're progressive like us!

And ... without any critical thinking either. Google and Facebook "make you the product" while on Apple hardware! They collect pretty much the data on you from an iPhone or MacBook that they do from an Android phone or Chromebook. Yet Apple doesn't stop them or block them. Instead they take Google's billions and direct search traffic to there instead of to GoDuckGo!

You love Apple. That is great. But lots of people love Facebook/Instagram. Lots of people love the fact that Amazon doesn't force them to rely on whatever inventory their local store in their medium-sized town happens to have on hand. And yes, lots of people like Google. Well even people who don't like "Google" certainly do like Gmail, YouTube, Chrome and even Android (if only because they love the fact that their iPhone and iPad adopts so many Android features!) making their disdain for Google every bit the cognitive dissonance of continuing to view Apple as the counterculture underdog little guy taking on the repressive right wing Wall Street private equity and fossil fuel suits.

Leave everybody alone? Fine. Go after everybody? Fine too. Go after everybody else and leave my company alone? Not gonna happen, nor should it.

urahara said:

WarrenBuffduckh said:

There is no issue with Tim’s statements
In Cookette phraseology equality means that some are being treated more equal than others

In your preference: Let’s treat all people the same  

And you get this left part of the picture. Do you really want this? Or you just throwing smart sounding parades out at us?

SpamSandwich said:

asdasd said:

SpamSandwich said:

asdasd said:

Apple's rules on this are all over the place. Only if they host content ( as they do with in app purchases in most cases) should the fee be more than 5%. 

How in the hell could you make any recommendations on fees if you don’t know their costs?

Simple, the cost isnt 30% to not host digital content created, hosted and fulfilled by others. Its not 5% either. But I am nice.

You are shooting from the hip from a completely uninformed position.

Beats said:

asdasd said:

Apple's rules on this are all over the place. Only if they host content ( as they do with in app purchases in most cases) should the fee be more than 5%. 

The App Store hosts 100% of app content.