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GeorgeBMac said:

So, not only is Apple stripping funds from the operation that could have been used to enhance, expand or protect it -- but borrowing money to do it.

Totally foolish

Totally irresponsible

Totally common in America

This is an example of why America can no longer compete in the Global market place.   Instead of investing in the business and its products American companies are handing out free cash to the wealthy.

This is not the kind of corporate management that made America the richest, most powerful country in the world.   Actually quite the opposite.

It is also an example of the delusion that the American economy is the best ever:   Even prior to the Corona virus America's GDP chugged along at the same piddling 2% rate it has been at since the Great Recession.   But, due to stock buybacks (even the government borrowed a Trillion $ to fund them!) and artificially low interest rates the stock market has soared -- and foolish people take that as a sign of a strong economy.

Smoke and mirrors only work till a good wind blows away the smoke.

Track_10 said:

I've enjoyed The Morning Show, The Servant, Mythic Quest: Raven's Banquet, HOME, Dickinson, Trying, and Little America. I look forward to all these shows' second seasons.

I also loved the Beasties Story and hope Apple makes more music documentaries. 

Its too bad the expectations are so high for Apple because I feel many of these shows would be considered breaking through shows if Netflix or Hulu released them.  The quality is so high. 

My only problem I've seen is with their crime dramas being too slow, flashback heavy, and predictable (Defending Jacob, Truth Be Told and Home Before Dark).  That being said, I liked most of Home Before Dark.

StrangeDays said:

elijahg said:

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elijahg said:

StrangeDays said:

elijahg said:

I've said this before, but all this closed source incompatibility is chillingly reminiscent of Apple of the mid-90's and Microsoft in the late 90's and into the Ballmer years. Since Sat Nad has taken over, MS have had a much more open approach and they are being lauded for it, with respect for MS steadily increasing. Apple on the other hand is going backwards compared to the huge amount of open-sourcing and increased compatibility after Jobs' return in the early years of OS X, causing respect to decrease. It really is quite concerning.

Jobs as champion of open systems? Interesting way to rewrite history. 

Sorry but no, while Apple has at times leveraged and contributed to open source projects, it has never been about open systems. The very nature of Mac and the ecosystem is a walled garden. That hasn’t changed.

Considering he open sourced pretty much all the APIs on NextStep to become OpenStep, looks like you might need to gen up on your history a bit. Oh and what about Webkit? What about Bonjour? What about CUPS? Swift? IOKit? What about contributions to Apache? To OpenSSL? To Autoconf? To Samba? To X11? LLVM? BSD? Clang? OpenGL? Might as well get your head out of Apple's ass at the same time. Walled garden doesn't mean you have to use incompatible standards and APIs. Look where that got Apple in the 90's.

Correct. And anyway the Mac isn't a walled garden. You can literally download apps from anywhere, compile any unix compatible program, make is a server, and so on. Its as open as any unix system. 

I didn't claim it was, Strangedays did.

I said Mac and the Apple ecosystem is a walled garden. Maybe you don't remember the years of proprietary hardware & software under the Jobs-era that set the Macintosh apart from "PC-compatibles"?

The notion that Jobs was all about open systems and now Cook isn't is disconnected from reality. 

ElCapitan said:

elijahg said:

ElCapitan said:

The rewrite to Metal for cross platform developers is non trivial because the Metal libraries only work with Objective-C or Swift, neither of which are used (if at all) outside dedicated macOS or iOS development. (Yes, IBM has done some work on server side Swift).

In addition, apart from the VR announcement at WWDC 2018, Apple has gone completely silent on the subject. 

Loss of OpenGL, and the lack of a replacement that can work cross platform, will rob the macOS users of a large number of software titles once OpenGL is gone from the platform (macOS 10.16 speculative). 

... but it may end up deprecated. 

It IS deprecated as of macOS 10.14.

If they announce an ARM Mac, there is not a snowball's chance in hell they will have OpenGL support on their own GPUs. (...or use anyone else's GPU for that sake).