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melgross said:

Marvin said:

tallest skil said:

Oh, yeah, what happens next year? No way does the X’s manufacturing cost come down in time to make it the only new model. I guess that’s why they released the 8 alongside it (with the same chip…); now they can release the iPhone 9 and iPhone XI concurrently next year. Maybe by iPhone XII it will be the only model.

I reckon they'll bring out an iPhone 9 and keep the iPhone X the same or maybe an XS model, drop the price to $899 and remove the $799 Plus model. They might have a 9S Plus for a year and then drop the X to $799 in 2019.

I don't think the designs are going to change much at all going forward just like the SE/5 model hasn't. This is why they'll have held back some color options from the X. They can introduce jet black, red models at a later date. I don't think it will be XII in branding, they might do it like OS X so have revision numbers separate from the brand or just years like the Macs, iPhone X (2018) etc.

Having models at a range of prices helps them grow marketshare, look how cheap an SE can be bought for:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-Apple-iPhone-SE-16GB-Prepaid-Smartphone/52129526 ($130)

The SE is a great phone to have and that price point is accessible to most people. I think it will be a long time before Apple only has one model of iPhone, maybe never. The iPhone 5 was introduced in 2012 and the SE now 5 years later is at that price down from $649. The X will give Apple at least another 5 years of high-end sales before it gets down to the level of the current 7 model and at that point, the 7 will be where the SE is now. The marketshare they gain from hitting a larger range of price points will maintain their revenue for at least a decade.

irnchriz said:

The X is 3mm wider than the 8 and   7mm narrower than the Plus, also you lose a fair bit of the height due to the exclusion of the top around the notch and the bottom where the slide bar is, the screen also uses the narrow viewport of the 8 vs the wider viewport of the Plus models.  It also doesn't have the landscape modes for the home screen like the plus has.

So, if you like the plus models Im suspecting that the X is gonna feel squished.  I really hope not as I'm going from 7 Plus to X but I will have 14 days to exchange it if it feels cramped like I find the 7/8 models.  Really hoping the higher DPI makes up for the smaller display. ( I attached an image showing the screen sizes, the usable part of the X is lined up with the other screens red=iphone 8, Blue=iPhone X Green=iPhone 8 Plus)

macplusplus said:

iPhone X is not a replacement for the Plus model. Aspect ratios don't match. The X has just the width of an iPhone 7. That can't be a replacement for a Plus. Both iPhone 8 and 8 Plus will survive until Apple comes up with a TouchID solution for the X to achieve multi biometrics. FaceID is not a replacement for TouchID either, none of the Apple execs has said that, this is just a divination of the blog writers.

The Plus model is 10% wider for content than the X and 7 but the screen on the X is taller than the Plus so the notch isn't going to cause any loss in height, it's an overall gain in screen height combined with a smaller device height.



https://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/ultimate-guide-to-iphone-resolutions

I don't think Plus users will have any problems migrating to the X, here's a dummy X compared to the Plus:



It may take a while for the price of the X to come down but I don't see a reason to keep the Plus in the lineup once it does.

I suspect they’ll drop the X model. The only real reason for it’s existence this year is because of the too much talked about problem of getting enough screens, and possibly, some other parts. If next year they can get LG to produce high quality screens, which apparently they can’t do this year, and enough to supplement the ones from Samsung, which will be able to produce more, there will be enough for two models. Since the X is an in between sized model, that’s really too many, and not enough differentiation in size.

Apple likely wants, and needs two models, and not three. I don’t think they want that many skus. I’m not buying the X because I want a wider phone, just like my 7+, or thereabouts. I imagine the prices will drop as well. The only reason I see Apple continuing the X as a series, is if they can’t get costs down enough.

but the very name looks like a one off. While we get numbered editions, with actual numbers, we got the Roman version for this. So while we could see an S Series next year, we could also see a “9” Series, if they intend to continue to drop that S in-between versioning. So what happens after that? Would we really have an X generation phone along with a 10 generation phone at the same time? And what would Apple be calling this monstrosity? X2, Xsquared, XmkII, Xmark II? It’s going to get bad. I think they used that naming so it would be special, so that it could be a one off, as also, conveniently for the tenth year anniversary.

Discontinuing it next year year would make sense, as long as screen supplies aren’t a problem, because if they are, then we’ll just have one OLED model again. 

But that’s too simplistic. You can’t talk about iPhone specs and pricing without considering scale. It’s not enough for Apple to create a phone that can be sold for $649/749/849 with 35 percent profit margins. They have to create a phone that can be sold at those prices, with those margins, and which can be manufactured at scale. And for Apple that scale is massive: anything less than 60–70 million in the quarter in which it goes on sale is a failure — possibly a catastrophic failure.

In short, new iPhones aren’t defined by what Apple can build for a certain price, but by what Apple can make for a certain price at a certain incredibly high quantity.

melgross said:

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sog35 said:

rattlhed said:

Am I the only one that's disappointed with the memory configurations on both the iPhone 8 and X?  64GB and 256GB?  What happened to 128GB?  Last year was the first year I opted for a 128GB iPhone.  Seemed like a perfect price point between plenty of storage without being too expensive.  Dropping 128 this year is quite disappointing.  No way I can go backwards to 64, so if I want to upgrade I have to opt for the most expensive model.  I really think the phones should have been 128 (for the price of 64) and 256. I guess this is the way they get all those millions of phones they sold in the last couple of years at 128 to opt for the most expensive models.  bummer.

paying $50 more for 128 additional GB is a great deal.

If a 128GB phone was available it would have been $1099.   With more 4k video and larger photo's you will be happy you bought the 256GB phone.

Which is why Apple does it. Phil Schiller’s middle name is upsell.

Nonsense. There's a low-end capacity, and a high-end (4x more). Which do you need? Low end needs? Great, get the low-end capacity. High-end needs? Great, get the high-end capacity for 150 more. Which type of user are you?

Just maybe he was the one in the middle?

You know, low, mid, high?

It's upsell. Trying to spin it any other way is foolish IMO.

One in the middle?

The Samsung S8 only come with 64GB. Thats it.

Why the hell are you grumbling about the iPhone having 2 storage sizes while the competition only has one?

S8 takes a micro SD card up to 256GB so the user can add additional storage if they want.  A Samsung user that needs 128 GB has that option, an Apple user doesn't.

It really doesn’t matter. It’s been shown that very few Android users that have that feature available ever use it. And iPhone users are well aware of how their memory works. If they were that unhappy about it, they wouldn’t be buying iPhones.

but the feature does t work that well on android, AMD there isn’t even agreement on how it should work.

at first, for several years, cards would carry data and other info that didn’t need to sit in main memory. Part of that was for safety. You could lose what was on the card, but the phone would still have everything critical.

the Google came out with the unified memory model, where the card, slow that it would be, would become a unified part of the storage, and most anything g could reside anywhere. Samsung refuses to support this memory model. They state that it’s dangerous, and that if a card, which does have much lower reliability, particularly the cheap cards, than built in memory, fails, or gets lost, then your phone might even stop working, for a number of functions.

so, where is it really at with Android storage? It’s a mess, that’s where.