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SoggyBottom said:

asdasd said:

sog35 said:

fallenjt said:

Let's see how Sog35 name and price the line up!

IPHONE X - 64GB $899, 256 GB $1049, 512 GB $1199

IPHONE 8 - 32GB $649

IPHONE 8 PLUS - 32GB $769

No way on earth is the iPhoneX going to start over $899. Trust me.

Given there two distinct models then both of these models will almost certainly have multiple prices and storage. Apple are not positioning the X as their top line mass product replacing the 7 after all. This is a new elite category. If there is to be only one storage option for a model, which I think unlikely,  it will be for the X

I am so looking forward to Tuesday. I upgrade EVERY year not that I need to but because I CAN. The indignity i suffered last year because no one could see I had the latest and greatest iPhone. I'm so glad they'll be a big differentiator this year with the iPhone X. Everyone will see I have the latest and greatest iPhone.

I totally applaud Tim Cook's decision to create a new elite category for the iPhone. Successful elite people can distance themselves from the lower classes who can only buy the 8 and 8 Plus. It'll show that only people of a better class can have the X version. Totally love this new direction for Apple. Will have my card ready to buy the 512gb X when pre-orders start!

Its a tough old capitalist world alright. 

The real cost of the iPhone isnt the assembly but the components. 

Heres a list I got from MacWorld

http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/apple/where-are-apple-products-made-how-much-does-iphone-cost-make-india-3633832/

• Accelerometer: Bosch in Germany. Invensense in the United States.
• Audio Chipsets and Codec: Cirrus Logic in the United States (outsourced for manufacturing). :
• Baseband processor: Qualcomm in the United States (outsourced for manufacturing).
• Batteries: Samsung in South Korea. Huizhou Desay Battery in China.
• Cameras: Sony in Japan. OmniVision in the United States produces the front-facing FaceTime camera chip but subcontracts TMSC (in Taiwan) for manufacturing.
• Chipsets and Processors: Samsung in South Korea and TSMC in Taiwan. Alongside their partner GlobalFoundries in the United States.
• Controller Chips: PMC Sierra and Broadcom Corp in the United States (outsourced for manufacturing).
• Display: Japan Display and Sharp in Japan. LG Display in South Korea.
• DRAM: TSMC in Taiwan. SK Hynix in South Korea.
• eCompass: Alps Electric in Japan.
• Fingerprint sensor authentication: Authentec makes it in China but outsources it to Taiwan for manufacturing.
• Flash memory: Toshiba in Japan and Samsung in South Korea.
• Gyroscope: STMicroelectronics in France and Italy.
• Inductor coils (audio): TDK in Japan.
• Main Chassis Assembly: Foxconn and Pegatron in China.
• Mixed-signal chips (such as NFC): NXP in Netherlands.
• Plastic Constructions (for the iPhone 5c): Hi-P and Green Point in Singapore.
• Radio Frequency Modules: Win Semiconductors (module manufacturers Avago and RF Micro Devices) in Taiwan. Avago technologies and TriQuint Semiconductor in the United States. Qualcomm in the United States for LTE connectivity.
• Screen and Glass (for the display): Corning (Gorilla Glass) in the United States. GT Advanced Technologies produces the sapphire crystals in the screens.
• Semiconductors: Texas Instruments, Fairchild and Maxim Integrated in the United States.
• Touch ID sensor: TSMC and Xintec in Taiwan.
• Touchscreen Controller: Broadcom in the United States (outsourced for manufacturing).
• Transmitter and Amplification Modules: Skyworks and Qorvo in the United States (outsourced for manufacturing). 

I'd prefer colors but the legend is:

Bold = US companies outsourcing to Asia
Bold Italic - US companies not outsourcing
Italic - Chinese company outsourcing to more expensive Taiwan ( Authentec)
Striketrhough - Chinese companies not outsourcing. 
Rest - Non US first world companies not outsourcing

Nearly all of the ownership of the technologies and a  fair amount of the components are built in first world countries, particuarly in Asia ( mostly in Korea, Japan and Taiwan - check their GDP if you doubt they are first world)

 The Japanese and South Korean companies don't tend to outsource. Americans do, which begs the question of why. Is it because of costs? If so how come that is not an issue for Japan and why does Authentec outsource to a higher cost country ( Taiwan) if costs are everything. Clearly in that case expertise matters.

I think a lot is to do with where most of the other component manufacturing companies are located i.e in Asia. For smaller items - like accelerometers and cameras it looks like it doesnt matter so much ( although the gorilla glass is fairly bulky).

The rest is clearly culture. Sony executives in Japan probably feel that building in Japan is a good idea and manage costs accordingly.

sog35 said:

asdasd said:

I am looking to refurbish my flat so I need a large TV, or projecter. Well want, if not need. Either way the Apple TV wont cut it. Firstly I cant really have any more wires going from the ground to the TV, the Apple TV is just too big to fit behind a TV, and I dont want it on the mantlepiece.

Compare to the Fire TV stick. Or that there are TVs running android that work with AirPlay, or that I can get a projector running Android. 

I mean come on, get an Apple Projector already. One that will pick up live TV and automatically run some version of TVOS, which should be licensable anyway. 

The fire stick is incredibly slow compared to the ATV4

If you don't want wires why don't you just run the wires behind the wall?

its not just my wall. I share it. But in any case where do you think the aTV should go? next door?

I could do a lot of stuff, a fake wall. Or buy an android TV that works with airplay. Id prefer that the aTV worked though. Or I could get a proper TV with the TVOS... or something else. 

I am looking to refurbish my flat so I need a large TV, or projecter. Well want, if not need. Either way the Apple TV wont cut it. Firstly I cant really have any more wires going from the ground to the TV, the Apple TV is just too big to fit behind a TV, and I dont want it on the mantlepiece.

Compare to the Fire TV stick. Or that there are TVs running android that work with AirPlay, or that I can get a projector running Android. 

I mean come on, get an Apple Projector already. One that will pick up live TV and automatically run some version of TVOS, which should be licensable anyway. 

I'm dubious about his version of the story. Pretty sure that it was Forstall's team that did the iPhone.