I realize the DOJ is an independent entity from the political parties, but there are two tech political parties, Apple and the “others”. I think the “others” are in charge of this legal action and it’s driven by their jealousy of Apple’s ecosystem. These “others” need to get over themselves. As a long time Apple consumer, I am really tired of these frivolous lawsuits. Don’t like Apple, don’t buy Apple.
DOJ is not independent. It is a department within the Executive branch, run by an Attorney General that is appointed by the prsident.
DOJ is not independent
That's true only under Trump, despite the fact it's supposed to be (independent).
If you're as pissed off about this mindless and wildly expensive lawsuit as you should be--the DOJ will spend tens if not hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars to try and force an Android-style open ecosystem down your throat and thereby lessen consumer choice--then don't just rant into the void here. At least email Merrick Garland here: https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice And if your state is on the list of those that have joined the suit, copy and paste that same email to your state's AG, and let your Congressional and Senate representatives know, too.
Agreed and filed my complaint! ------------------------------------
Your message to the Department of Justice:
Dear Merrick Garland and the rest of the DOJ staff,
Your lawsuit against Apple is completely misguided and absolutely NOT in the best interest of consumers. Apple provides the best in class smart phones with best in class ecosystem. I don't find either to be excessively expensive and the range of options of apps is completely satisfying. I feel absolutely zero need for you to legislate my experience.
For any application segment, I have a myriad of choices from both Apple and other companies. Take for instance your claims that Apple has sealed off messaging apps. What about WhatsApp? It's universally available on all smartphones including iPhones.
There is not a single point of your lawsuit that I feel is valid or fair. In fact, I hold Apple as the most esteemed company we have in America. They build absolutely brilliant technology at affordable price points.
If you're as pissed off about this mindless and wildly expensive lawsuit as you should be--the DOJ will spend tens if not hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars to try and force an Android-style open ecosystem down your throat and thereby lessen consumer choice--then don't just rant into the void here. At least email Merrick Garland here: https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice And if your state is on the list of those that have joined the suit, copy and paste that same email to your state's AG, and let your Congressional and Senate representatives know, too.
Agreed and filed my complaint! ------------------------------------
Your message to the Department of Justice:
Dear Merrick Garland and the rest of the DOJ staff,
Your lawsuit against Apple is completely misguided and absolutely NOT in the best interest of consumers. Apple provides the best in class smart phones with best in class ecosystem. I don't find either to be excessively expensive and the range of options of apps is completely satisfying. I feel absolutely zero need for you to legislate my experience.
For any application segment, I have a myriad of choices from both Apple and other companies. Take for instance your claims that Apple has sealed off messaging apps. What about WhatsApp? It's universally available on all smartphones including iPhones.
There is not a single point of your lawsuit that I feel is valid or fair. In fact, I hold Apple as the most esteemed company we have in America. They build absolutely brilliant technology at affordable price points.
DOJ Attorney General Garland hasn't gotten the most conspicuous criminal & psychopath one inch closer to prosecution by assigning this investigation of President Biden to a MAGA-adjacent butthead, but they have time for the persecution of one of the most important companies of the century.
I don't think the world could be a dumber place than right now, even though I know it's been in the past. I just happen to live in the right now.
I believe this is all about influence and control. Governments everywhere are totally freaking out about the influence that tech companies and social media have over the masses. Whether the influence was earned, forced, or obtained through some sort of subterfuge, like the promise of some sort of global kumbaya of like minded equals, does not matter. Governments want to believe that they are the ultimate guardian, controller, source of truth, arbitrator, and overlord over their flock of citizenry, both minions and elites alike.
It would be helpful to discuss this DOJ action without a cloud of politics hanging over it. Politics makes everything suck no matter which side you're on. It simply flips the bozo bit to 1 (ON). Once the bozo bit is enabled, logic disappears.
What would be helpful for me is if someone could recall a previous instance where the US government intervened over the business matters of a non-monopolistic, non-exclusive, non-commodity, highly competitive business in a still growing and thriving market to achieve an actual benefit, quality of service improvement, or lower cost to consumers without destroying or distorting the entire market to the point of no return. Commoditization is what happens when innovation dies, Everything the DOJ is alluding to in its case against Apple is to try to force Apple into become a commodity.
All I can think of are the commoditization of markets like gas stations and drug stores where what was once the entire focus and reason for these businesses to exist was basically destroyed once they reached commodity status. Part of this was caused by government intervention in the marketing of things that made those stores unique, i.e., gasoline and pharmaceuticals. The primary money making focus of gas stations is no longer selling gasoline, automotive service, or improving the gas buying experience. It's about selling beer, soda, candy, week old hotdogs, and lottery tickets. Drug stores are much the same. The actual pharmacy part of a typical drugstore today is a little glassed-off cubbyhole tucked way in the back of the store, way behind the rows of Cheetos, candy, greeting cards, cheap toys, hair colorant, and refrigerated soft drinks.
This administration has absolutely lost its mind. They are attacking everything about the American economy and industry with endless regulations on everything they can think of. Energy, appliances, the inane EV push. It’s all destructive and must be stopped. They must be utterly defeated at the ballot box and democrats should pay a heavy, heavy price for all this anti-American bullshit. They should never be allowed to run our economy, EVER. I’ll take mean tweets any day over this.
Guess Biden should hire Hunter to apply his law degree as a consultant on Government Relations. Or maybe buy a few pictures to hang up at Tim's house.
Biden's mis-Administration is the most blatantly political since the Jackson administration.
The facts are quite simple- consumers are free to buy Windows, Android, Roku and whatever hardware they wish. Every significant cloud service is easily available to any consumer. Every significant productivity app is interoperable. Same for Maps, TV, Music, Books and all the rest.
Consumers are free to use any search engine they want to: Bing, DDG, Brave, Ecosia....
Yet that didn't stop the Trump administration, with wide support from a Republican legislative branch, from filing antitrust charges against Google. But that's OK because it's some other big homegrown American company being attacked and not Apple?
I don't think it matters what party holds office. They both have emboldened the FTC and DoJ.
Google suit is different , that had to do with information censorship and Google was and is the dominant search engine.
iphones are at best 50/50 in USA market share and 4 to 1 world wide
Huh?? Google LOST an antitrust case involving the Play Store, and that's despite Google allowing third-party stores, sideloading, and having under a 40% share of the US smartphone market. Yet you believe Apple having a far larger share, approaching 65%, not allowing 3rd-party app stores in the US, and allowing sideloading only under very specific enterprise conditions, should make them immune?
Guess Biden should hire Hunter to apply his law degree as a consultant on Government Relations. Or maybe buy a few pictures to hang up at Tim's house.
Biden's mis-Administration is the most blatantly political since the Jackson administration.
The facts are quite simple- consumers are free to buy Windows, Android, Roku and whatever hardware they wish. Every significant cloud service is easily available to any consumer. Every significant productivity app is interoperable. Same for Maps, TV, Music, Books and all the rest.
Consumers are free to use any search engine they want to: Bing, DDG, Brave, Ecosia....
Yet that didn't stop the Trump administration, with wide support from a Republican legislative branch, from filing antitrust charges against Google. But that's OK because it's some other big homegrown American company being attacked and not Apple?
I don't think it matters what party holds office. They both have emboldened the FTC and DoJ.
Google suit is different , that had to do with information censorship and Google was and is the dominant search engine.
iphones are at best 50/50 in USA market share and 4 to 1 world wide
Huh?? Google LOST an antitrust case involving the Play Store, and that's despite Google allowing third-party stores, sideloading, and having under a 40% share of the US smartphone market. Yet you believe Apple having a far larger share, approaching 65%, not allowing 3rd-party app stores in the US, and allowing sideloading only under very specific enterprise conditions, should make them immune?
This is what I found on that lawsuit:
“Google reached the settlement with the state attorneys general in September, resolving litigation that the AGs brought in 2021, and the terms were disclosed in a filing Monday (available at this link). The states’ lawsuit alleged Google Play was an illegal monopoly that stifled competition from other app distributors on Android devices. Specifically, the states claimed that Google signed anticompetitive contracts to prevent other app stores from being preloaded on Android devices, paid off key app developers who might have launched rival app stores, created technological barriers to deter consumers from directly downloading apps to their devices and imposed monopoly prices on in-app purchases.”
Very different situation from the App Store. Google has allowed consumer side loading from the beginning, but tried to stifle competitors from taking advantage of this (allegedly) — Apple has never allowed consumer side loading, and they have been consistent with this. There are other platforms that only allow for one app marketplace — is this illegal?
They want access to everyone’s phones. This is about the fact that this government is having such a difficult time controlling their narrative and they want more access to be able to control it. Yes, I’m talking about the genocide in Gaza. It’s making clear to everyone the myth that the US as global peacekeeper is just that when the reality is that we are still colonizing the world and we’re the global bullies.
Israel may have committed war crimes, but not genocide.
You are likely unaware of how much the U.S. Military, and our allies, facilitate global trade via maintaining freedom navigation; see Yemen current events as an example.
You are probably unaware that France failed at creating a canal thru the Isthmus of Panama, likely due to Malaria, that the U.S. was able to complete later. That was more inline with our take on the Monroe Doctrine. The U.S. maintained its presence, including military, in the Canal Zone up until the very end of 1999, where it became Panamanian again. I would agree that the U.S. peacekeeping has been a mixed bag, as peacekeeping often is.
France completed the Suez Canal in 1869. It, and the Panama Canal, are the two premier shortcuts for shipping in the world. Neither France nor the U.S. are "colonizing the world", and they haven't for very many decades.
You know who is still colonizing the world? That would be Russia and the PRC, and interestingly enough, there are plenty of people as yourself that are fine with that, just as they were fine with Assad murdering Syrians.
Put your efforts into actually stopping colonization by those two parties, and I will no longer consider you a "tankie", or a "useful idiot".
Guess Biden should hire Hunter to apply his law degree as a consultant on Government Relations. Or maybe buy a few pictures to hang up at Tim's house.
Biden's mis-Administration is the most blatantly political since the Jackson administration.
The facts are quite simple- consumers are free to buy Windows, Android, Roku and whatever hardware they wish. Every significant cloud service is easily available to any consumer. Every significant productivity app is interoperable. Same for Maps, TV, Music, Books and all the rest.
Consumers are free to use any search engine they want to: Bing, DDG, Brave, Ecosia....
Yet that didn't stop the Trump administration, with wide support from a Republican legislative branch, from filing antitrust charges against Google. But that's OK because it's some other big homegrown American company being attacked and not Apple?
I don't think it matters what party holds office. They both have emboldened the FTC and DoJ.
Google suit is different , that had to do with information censorship and Google was and is the dominant search engine.
iphones are at best 50/50 in USA market share and 4 to 1 world wide
Huh?? Google LOST an antitrust case involving the Play Store, and that's despite Google allowing third-party stores, sideloading, and having under a 40% share of the US smartphone market. Yet you believe Apple having a far larger share, approaching 65%, not allowing 3rd-party app stores in the US, and allowing sideloading only under very specific enterprise conditions, should make them immune?
This is what I found on that lawsuit:
“Google reached the settlement with the state attorneys general in September, resolving litigation that the AGs brought in 2021, and the terms were disclosed in a filing Monday (available at this link). The states’ lawsuit alleged Google Play was an illegal monopoly that stifled competition from other app distributors on Android devices. Specifically, the states claimed that Google signed anticompetitive contracts to prevent other app stores from being preloaded on Android devices, paid off key app developers who might have launched rival app stores, created technological barriers to deter consumers from directly downloading apps to their devices and imposed monopoly prices on in-app purchases.”
Very different situation from the App Store. Google has allowed consumer side loading from the beginning, but tried to stifle competitors from taking advantage of this (allegedly) — Apple has never allowed consumer side loading, and they have been consistent with this. There are other platforms that only allow for one app marketplace — is this illegal?
Guess Biden should hire Hunter to apply his law degree as a consultant on Government Relations. Or maybe buy a few pictures to hang up at Tim's house.
Biden's mis-Administration is the most blatantly political since the Jackson administration.
The facts are quite simple- consumers are free to buy Windows, Android, Roku and whatever hardware they wish. Every significant cloud service is easily available to any consumer. Every significant productivity app is interoperable. Same for Maps, TV, Music, Books and all the rest.
Consumers are free to use any search engine they want to: Bing, DDG, Brave, Ecosia....
Yet that didn't stop the Trump administration, with wide support from a Republican legislative branch, from filing antitrust charges against Google. But that's OK because it's some other big homegrown American company being attacked and not Apple?
I don't think it matters what party holds office. They both have emboldened the FTC and DoJ.
Google suit is different , that had to do with information censorship and Google was and is the dominant search engine.
iphones are at best 50/50 in USA market share and 4 to 1 world wide
Huh?? Google LOST an antitrust case involving the Play Store, and that's despite Google allowing third-party stores, sideloading, and having under a 40% share of the US smartphone market. Yet you believe Apple having a far larger share, approaching 65%, not allowing 3rd-party app stores in the US, and allowing sideloading only under very specific enterprise conditions, should make them immune?
This is what I found on that lawsuit:
“Google reached the settlement with the state attorneys general in September, resolving litigation that the AGs brought in 2021, and the terms were disclosed in a filing Monday (available at this link). The states’ lawsuit alleged Google Play was an illegal monopoly that stifled competition from other app distributors on Android devices. Specifically, the states claimed that Google signed anticompetitive contracts to prevent other app stores from being preloaded on Android devices, paid off key app developers who might have launched rival app stores, created technological barriers to deter consumers from directly downloading apps to their devices and imposed monopoly prices on in-app purchases.”
Very different situation from the App Store. Google has allowed consumer side loading from the beginning, but tried to stifle competitors from taking advantage of this (allegedly) — Apple has never allowed consumer side loading, and they have been consistent with this. There are other platforms that only allow for one app marketplace — is this illegal?
I was referring to Epic, but that one works too.
Google is appealing the Epic case decision, and they settled with the other. The point is that Google ran the Play Store different from the App Store, so the outcome for both won’t necessarily be the same — the obvious example is the Epic case against Apple and Google and how those case decisions differed.
They want access to everyone’s phones. This is about the fact that this government is having such a difficult time controlling their narrative and they want more access to be able to control it. Yes, I’m talking about the genocide in Gaza. It’s making clear to everyone the myth that the US as global peacekeeper is just that when the reality is that we are still colonizing the world and we’re the global bullies.
Yes, the government wants more access to our phones, messages, and information.
Apparently, you have no idea what genocide is. What is happening in Gaza is war. Hamas declared war on Israel and is bent on the genocide all Israelis and all jews. It is their stated goal. Israel is pursuing the destruction of Hamas not the Palestinian people. I feel sorry for the Palestinians in Gaza, but they let Hamas do this since Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005.
BTW - Genocide is what the Nazi’s were doing in Europe to 6 million jews and 4 million others they didn’t like. Don’t forget the 25 million Russian who died at the hands of the Nazi’s.
Sorry about this little tirade…
Gaza is the Warsaw Ghetto in reverse.....And the one God religions, the so-called true believers are/seem to be very inflexible, this current conflict is the first time in my lifetime that I have felt no hope for that region of the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_That_Be_Your_Last_Battlefield
They want access to everyone’s phones. This is about the fact that this government is having such a difficult time controlling their narrative and they want more access to be able to control it. Yes, I’m talking about the genocide in Gaza. It’s making clear to everyone the myth that the US as global peacekeeper is just that when the reality is that we are still colonizing the world and we’re the global bullies.
Yes, the government wants more access to our phones, messages, and information.
Apparently, you have no idea what genocide is. What is happening in Gaza is war. Hamas declared war on Israel and is bent on the genocide all Israelis and all jews. It is their stated goal. Israel is pursuing the destruction of Hamas not the Palestinian people. I feel sorry for the Palestinians in Gaza, but they let Hamas do this since Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005.
BTW - Genocide is what the Nazi’s were doing in Europe to 6 million jews and 4 million others they didn’t like. Don’t forget the 25 million Russian who died at the hands of the Nazi’s.
Sorry about this little tirade…
Great post. Strange how some try to reverse reality.
All wars in the modern era after World War One worldwide, civilians make up by far most of the dead this current mini war Gaza/Israel is no different......
They want access to everyone’s phones. This is about the fact that this government is having such a difficult time controlling their narrative and they want more access to be able to control it. Yes, I’m talking about the genocide in Gaza. It’s making clear to everyone the myth that the US as global peacekeeper is just that when the reality is that we are still colonizing the world and we’re the global bullies.
Israel may have committed war crimes, but not genocide.
You are likely unaware of how much the U.S. Military, and our allies, facilitate global trade via maintaining freedom navigation; see Yemen current events as an example.
You are probably unaware that France failed at creating a canal thru the Isthmus of Panama, likely due to Malaria, that the U.S. was able to complete later. That was more inline with our take on the Monroe Doctrine. The U.S. maintained its presence, including military, in the Canal Zone up until the very end of 1999, where it became Panamanian again. I would agree that the U.S. peacekeeping has been a mixed bag, as peacekeeping often is.
France completed the Suez Canal in 1869. It, and the Panama Canal, are the two premier shortcuts for shipping in the world. Neither France nor the U.S. are "colonizing the world", and they haven't for very many decades.
You know who is still colonizing the world? That would be Russia and the PRC, and interestingly enough, there are plenty of people as yourself that are fine with that, just as they were fine with Assad murdering Syrians.
Put your efforts into actually stopping colonization by those two parties, and I will no longer consider you a "tankie", or a "useful idiot".
Not true currently indigenous people around the world are currently getting the boot as usual the Mapuche in Chile or the islanders on the Indonesia western side of New Guinea, West China, or the Nordic Far North, do America Indians still exist in the eastern US I notice that when they raise their hands in mild protest like union organizers they seem to get crushed? Colonization is still on going worldwide it's just more quiet it is more than a Two Body Problem in fact it's a collective Human problem.
And the surviving (people) leftovers will be gaslighted out of existence do the Netanyahu.
Popcorn ready! It is about time the US stepped up and filed this case. Concerned about safety? Only download from the official Apple Store. Your iPhone should be like your Mac - download what you want from where you want and accept that there are risks to doing so if you go outside the Mac App Store.
Except when something goes wrong and your bank account is cleaned out, it’s Apple who is going to take a reputational hit based on confusion over who is to blame. And that’s a huge hit to the value of Apple’s business. For the actions of a few unsavvy users and a few unscrupulous app publishers/hackers.
After years of complaints by competitors, and an equally-long investigation, the long-rumored antitrust suit against Apple has finally been filed by the US Department of Justice -- and it is going after nearly every part of the company.
It's about time!!!
Apple has blatantly and greedily abused and bullied both developers and customers for years. In the name of private security, they have done everything in their power to protect their bottom line by limiting competition. They only started to show a bit more flexibility after being sued or threathened to be sued, receving hefty fines for anticompetitive behaviour and realizing that things are not going in the direction they would like.
I love Apple's products but as a consumer, I'm happy this is happening. Apple is no boy scout, this should have happened years ago!
They want access to everyone’s phones. This is about the fact that this government is having such a difficult time controlling their narrative and they want more access to be able to control it. Yes, I’m talking about the genocide in Gaza. It’s making clear to everyone the myth that the US as global peacekeeper is just that when the reality is that we are still colonizing the world and we’re the global bullies.
If Hamas lays down their weapons there will be no more war. If Israel lays down their weapons there will be no more Israel. - Golda Meir
I never voted or been political in my life but I will for sure vote clueless Biden out this November
monopoly? There are more non-Apple phones; out there Biden and most are Chinese androids
Biden is doing the bidding for Chinese communist owned Epic games with this lawsuit
Joe Biden knows how to do two things.
Siphon endless American money to Corrupt Ukraine and trying to take down great American companies.
Think about this next time you vote for Democrats, you are voting for communists . Full stop
stay out of our devices!
The investigation that led to the announcement of this legal action was begin under the Trump administration. Fact.
In our tripartite government structure there should be separation of the DOJ from the executive branch. Biden should NOT attempt to influence an ongoing investigation. He would be correctly castigated for DOING SO, not for failing to do so.
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Dear Merrick Garland and the rest of the DOJ staff,
Your lawsuit against Apple is completely misguided and absolutely NOT in the best interest of consumers. Apple provides the best in class smart phones with best in class ecosystem. I don't find either to be excessively expensive and the range of options of apps is completely satisfying. I feel absolutely zero need for you to legislate my experience.
For any application segment, I have a myriad of choices from both Apple and other companies. Take for instance your claims that Apple has sealed off messaging apps. What about WhatsApp? It's universally available on all smartphones including iPhones.
There is not a single point of your lawsuit that I feel is valid or fair. In fact, I hold Apple as the most esteemed company we have in America. They build absolutely brilliant technology at affordable price points.
Pease go take your nonsense elsewhere.
Mostly Disrespectfully Yours,
xxx
I don't think the world could be a dumber place than right now, even though I know it's been in the past. I just happen to live in the right now.
It would be helpful to discuss this DOJ action without a cloud of politics hanging over it. Politics makes everything suck no matter which side you're on. It simply flips the bozo bit to 1 (ON). Once the bozo bit is enabled, logic disappears.
What would be helpful for me is if someone could recall a previous instance where the US government intervened over the business matters of a non-monopolistic, non-exclusive, non-commodity, highly competitive business in a still growing and thriving market to achieve an actual benefit, quality of service improvement, or lower cost to consumers without destroying or distorting the entire market to the point of no return. Commoditization is what happens when innovation dies, Everything the DOJ is alluding to in its case against Apple is to try to force Apple into become a commodity.
All I can think of are the commoditization of markets like gas stations and drug stores where what was once the entire focus and reason for these businesses to exist was basically destroyed once they reached commodity status. Part of this was caused by government intervention in the marketing of things that made those stores unique, i.e., gasoline and pharmaceuticals. The primary money making focus of gas stations is no longer selling gasoline, automotive service, or improving the gas buying experience. It's about selling beer, soda, candy, week old hotdogs, and lottery tickets. Drug stores are much the same. The actual pharmacy part of a typical drugstore today is a little glassed-off cubbyhole tucked way in the back of the store, way behind the rows of Cheetos, candy, greeting cards, cheap toys, hair colorant, and refrigerated soft drinks.
“Google reached the settlement with the state attorneys general in September, resolving litigation that the AGs brought in 2021, and the terms were disclosed in a filing Monday (available at this link). The states’ lawsuit alleged Google Play was an illegal monopoly that stifled competition from other app distributors on Android devices. Specifically, the states claimed that Google signed anticompetitive contracts to prevent other app stores from being preloaded on Android devices, paid off key app developers who might have launched rival app stores, created technological barriers to deter consumers from directly downloading apps to their devices and imposed monopoly prices on in-app purchases.”
Very different situation from the App Store. Google has allowed consumer side loading from the beginning, but tried to stifle competitors from taking advantage of this (allegedly) — Apple has never allowed consumer side loading, and they have been consistent with this. There are other platforms that only allow for one app marketplace — is this illegal?
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4442213-israels-may-have-committed-war-crimes-in-gaza-but-not-genocide/
You are likely unaware of how much the U.S. Military, and our allies, facilitate global trade via maintaining freedom navigation; see Yemen current events as an example.
You are probably unaware that France failed at creating a canal thru the Isthmus of Panama, likely due to Malaria, that the U.S. was able to complete later. That was more inline with our take on the Monroe Doctrine. The U.S. maintained its presence, including military, in the Canal Zone up until the very end of 1999, where it became Panamanian again. I would agree that the U.S. peacekeeping has been a mixed bag, as peacekeeping often is.
France completed the Suez Canal in 1869. It, and the Panama Canal, are the two premier shortcuts for shipping in the world. Neither France nor the U.S. are "colonizing the world", and they haven't for very many decades.
You know who is still colonizing the world? That would be Russia and the PRC, and interestingly enough, there are plenty of people as yourself that are fine with that, just as they were fine with Assad murdering Syrians.
Put your efforts into actually stopping colonization by those two parties, and I will no longer consider you a "tankie", or a "useful idiot".
All wars in the modern era after World War One worldwide, civilians make up by far most of the dead this current mini war Gaza/Israel is no different......
Not true currently indigenous people around the world are currently getting the boot as usual the Mapuche in Chile or the islanders on the Indonesia western side of New Guinea, West China, or the Nordic Far North, do America Indians still exist in the eastern US I notice that when they raise their hands in mild protest like union organizers they seem to get crushed? Colonization is still on going worldwide it's just more quiet it is more than a Two Body Problem in fact it's a collective Human problem.
And the surviving (people) leftovers will be gaslighted out of existence do the Netanyahu.
If Hamas lays down their weapons there will be no more war. If Israel lays down their weapons there will be no more Israel.
- Golda Meir
In our tripartite government structure there should be separation of the DOJ from the executive branch. Biden should NOT attempt to influence an ongoing investigation. He would be correctly castigated for DOING SO, not for failing to do so.