How's the cloned Steak? Pass the cloned milk...
Well sort of. Not sure what I think of this. America land of cookie cutter everything including genetics.
Makes a person want to move to Europe
Your thoughts on cookie cutter genetics ?
Don't you love the word "appear" used above.
Fellows
Makes a person want to move to Europe
Your thoughts on cookie cutter genetics ?
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"Edible products from normal, healthy clones or their progeny do not appear to pose increased food consumption risk,? said the 12-page executive summary of an FDA report."
"Edible products from normal, healthy clones or their progeny do not appear to pose increased food consumption risk,? said the 12-page executive summary of an FDA report."
Don't you love the word "appear" used above.
Fellows
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Every time you eat a banana, you are basically eating a clone. Get over it.
Originally posted by Eugene
I look forward to the day where tenderloin grows in massive faceless sheets rather than cows bred for slaughter... How awesome would that be?
Lets say they were grown on faceless sheets, thus never having to kill a cow ever again for its meat. Cows could roam on farmland to live their lives in peace. Would you approve of that?
Originally posted by nwhysee
Lets say they were grown on faceless sheets, thus never having to kill a cow ever again for its meat. Cows could roam on farmland to live their lives in peace. Would you approve of that?
We wouldn't have to breed so many of them, that's for sure. You drive down Interstate 5 here...
eventually you smell something...
it gets stronger...
you crest over a little hill...
and see endless plains of cows ear to ear, face to butt...
the sky is greenish brown there...
turn off your AC/vent...
And gigantic unattached udder would be waaaay cool too.
I personally don't see the problem with genetically engineered/modified food, as long as it doesn't adversely affect the ecosystem or harm anyone.
Originally posted by Luca Rescigno
They say "appear" because nothing in science is 100% certain.
I personally don't see the problem with genetically engineered/modified food, as long as it doesn't adversely affect the ecosystem or harm anyone.
I have no problem with technolgy to be honest. I just ask questions when we (as a society) race to do things in more and more un-natural ways.
Not saying it is good or bad.
Fellows
Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook
I have no problem with technolgy to be honest. I just ask questions when we (as a society) race to do things in more and more un-natural ways.
Not saying it is good or bad.
Fellows
Some genteticists are talking about transplanting human genes into animals like pigs etc..How would you feel about the possibility that what you might be eating in consequence might be partially human.?
PS I might add, that this also extends to grains, fruits etc.
Originally posted by Eugene
I'm sure there's a portion of a polypeptide chain in me that is identical to that of a corncob. That doesn't make me corn.
No... but that just explains how some folk smell like corn whisky.
Originally posted by iBrowse:
But it is a matter of choice and opinion, a lot of people don't care the slightest bit what's been done to their food, but with a lack of long term studies about the effects of modified (and now cloned... ) food, I'll stick to what I know.
That is a good point. I'm not opposed to genetic engineering being used in food these days, but I don't think it's wise to become complacent about it either.
It seems to me, that certain genetic manipulations unleashed intot he ecosystem fly in the face of the environmental credo "tread lightly". Inasmuch as a great dea of careful science is involved, living organisms are notoriously difficult to control -- you cannot be sure what kind of bargain you are making when you improve certain saleable aspects of plant organisms.
This would be different if we could deal only with cloned meat products. A giant growing slab of steak, that never interacts with the gene pool of living cows, and neither introduces new benefits or flaws into that species... That seems OK, in terms of a cautious outlook, and safe practice.
Monsanto wheat? To say nothing of the legal ramifications, it seems rather short sighted, profit driven, and potentially dangerous to continue that sort of practice without some checks that are many orders of magnitude more severe than those currently in place. And no, the FDA doesn't count, they're horribly inadeuate in this regard.
A giant growing slab of steak...
Or steak that grows on a vine...Imagine cracking open a watermelon and finding tender filet inside. CAN'T WAIT!!!
I am not sure that i will appreciate to eat exactly the same meat, time after time : choice between the A corp cow, the B corp cow ...
I prefer to think that each meat i eat is unique, natural and not industrial.
Cloning and genetical modifications of animals should be reserved for the medical field.
Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook
I have no problem with technolgy to be honest. I just ask questions when we (as a society) race to do things in more and more un-natural ways.
Not saying it is good or bad.
Fellows
Driving a car is unnatural. Let's go back to walking.
Originally posted by BR
Driving a car is unnatural. Let's go back to walking.
I disagree. Driving a car is perfectly natural.
"Unnatural" is, so far as I can tell, literally unimaginable, since I can't imagine anything in the universe that would not be somehow a part of nature.
Usually, as you rightly imply in your response, unnatural simply means "new-fangled."
Cheers
Scott
Originally posted by BR
Driving a car is unnatural.
So is wearing clothes. And eating cereal. Hell, everything we do could be considered unnatural. But that sort of talk will just spiral down to a discussion of semantics.
Anyone want to join in on running naked through the woods with me? Or eat the squirrel I just caught?
But by ?natural? many people mean ?The way God? made it?, or perhaps ?the way Mother Nature? made it? as if the forces of nature have/had foresight.
If God had meant for you to modify dna, he would?ve put a gene splicer between your legs.
As long as my body parts don?t fall off, I don?t care. I will wait a few years to see if other people?s do until I dig in though.
But like P J O'Rourke once commented about such types..
" They all come scurrying out of their alternative lifestyles the moment they get a toothache..
No alternative medicine...just give me whatever drugs I need to kill the pain ..dammit..."