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bakerzdosen said:

I can't see anyone who has been paying attention that's surprised by this.

Reddit has said they don't want to shut down 3rd party client apps, but they also just want to be paid for the infrastructure they have built and maintain.

I see both sides of this story, but considering how chatty Apollo is with Reddit's API, this was one of only three possible outcomes:

• Reddit caves on their pricing demands
• Apollo shuts down
• Apollo is re-written to be more efficient in its communication.

The protest is supposed to accomplish the first point [narrator: it won't], and the developer has said the third point wasn't really feasible, so... surprise! We get option 2.

So users suffer and Reddit gets a black eye. But the internet has a really short memory

Can you elaborate on the "chatty" point? From reading the dev's reddit post, his app uses about 345 requests per user per day, compared to maybe 100 of some other apps. That does not look wildly inefficient to me. Reddit limits API use to 60 per minute per user, so 345 is a tiny fraction of that limit. Maybe users are just on Apollo longer, maybe Apollo is a tiny bit more inefficient. Nothing outrageous.

The main issue though, is that Reddit gave the dev a month from announcing the new rate before starting to pay at the rate. There's no chance a dev can roll out a significantly more efficient version in a month.

bulk001 said:

I am in total agreement that there should be no backdoors. With one exception - if it could help save my wife or kid’s life or heaven for it, bring their killer to justice. And their lies the rub. I don’t trust politicians or government agencies to be able to resist temptation to expand a back door or keep it safe. 

We all want a thing that could be used in justified ways, only by the good guys, to stop the bad guys. But the problem is such thing couldn't possibly exist.

cat52 said:

Apple decides to swallow its moral compass

A world view model that always takes a black and white naive viewpoint on every matter doesn't work with real life issues. When cops' family and children get threaten to avoid work or school; when the public transit system gets smashed and burned every day causing it to shut down; when every public figure, businesses and restaurant, and even nameless citizens get boycott, vandalized, and humiliated if they don't vocally support the protestors' cause... You have to admit that the issue at hand is more complicated than "good people trying to fight against tyranny".

sflocal said:

I can't think of anything better than its citizens to rise up once and for all and topple that government

I bet most of the Chinese citizens would beg to differ. Their government isn't as bad as our media depicts it to be, and many are just perfectly fine with it.

"Apple has revealed it will release iOS 13 and iPadOS 13 to the public on Sept. 19, while version 13.1 of each will arrive on Sept. 30." No, iPadOS will be released on Sept. 30, not on the 19th...