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mubaili said:

avon b7 said:

mubaili said:

All the compromises Apple has made over the years mount to not much. From now on Apple should be strong enough to say no more and prepare to move all its operations out. Apple can’t change a thing by continuing the engagement. The only Apple gets out is the damaged reputation. It’s no longer worth it. As a shareholder I am going to press Apple to pull out just like what Google has done many years ago. 

'A miniscule fraction of that 19%'. 

Don't lose sight of context. 

This is a tit-for-tat move following on from US actions from six years ago and continued to the present day. They've shown enormous restraint so far.

Moving out would make things worse. Where would they go? How much would it cost? And if they did do that, there really would be little to no reason for China not to do what the US did to Huawei. Prevent it operating in one the largest markets on the planet. 

As a shareholder, what do you think about losing that entire 19% of earnings instead of a fraction of it? 

Google,FB do well without that market. Apple would be able to. Apple could spend more in other markets to capture more shares. Now it’s Tim Cook’s turn to say no more and be prepared to leave. Anything less than that is a breach of fiduciary duty to the shareholders and to Apple’s ideals.

CheeseFreeze said:

jamnap said:

Sure, price increases affect all of us, but when was the last time you paid for a iOS/MacOs/WatchOS/TVos software update?  It costs $$$$ for engineers to R&D great hardware and for software engineers to contantly tweak and update billions of lines of code with new/improved features. These services have to be factored in to purchase prices.  I own just about every category of Apple products and subscribe to many of their services, and I have never had any hardware failures, and services remain reliable (with an occasional outage now and then).  Most of my friends on the Windows platform often get hit for software update: I have never paid for a osMac update.  So when you hear of Apple’s quarterly profits, think about how much goes to R&D.  Pricing for everything is going up, but I won’t mind a higher 15 Pro Max knowing I am purchasing a top-of-the-line high-tech and dependable device. You get what you pay for. Ciao.

Selling OS licenses is not their business model. It’s services. It’s completely different for Microsoft who doesn’t sell the PC and locks customers out of using something else.

You position Apple as a poor victim and they are some sort of a non-profit. They are worth trillions and have billions of cash at hand. Stop defending them. This is Tim Cook who wants to maintain a gigantic markup on these devices and earn hundreds of millions on stock more this year.