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Apple is not deleting your iTunes or movie purchases, and it isn't getting out of media sa...
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Video: Apple HomePod vs. Sonos One
A better test of audio quality would be doing a blind test so the testers didn't know what speaker they were listening to, and using a dB meter to ensure the sound volume from both speakers is as close as you can get them as loudness also influences people's opinion.
HiFi audio is full of snakeoil and there are plenty of examples of listeners being subconsciously influenced by the brand name or price tag into thinking that the sound must be better, and the difference disappears when they don't know what they are listening to. -
EU tax investigation concludes, Apple hammered with $14.5 billion bill
singularity said:sog35 said:singularity said:sog35 said:FACT: Any other company headquartered in Ireland could have used the same tax strategy as Apple.
If someone can dispute this then the EU has a case and Apple should pay the $14 billion.
But Tim Cook was 100% clear that Apple was not given a special deal: "The opinion issued on August 30th alleges that Ireland gave Apple a special deal on our taxes. This claim has no basis in fact or in law. We never asked for, nor did we receive, any special deals." Tim Cook
"The opinion issued on August 30th alleges that Ireland gave Apple a special deal on our taxes. This claim has no basis in fact or in law. We never asked for, nor did we receive, any special deals." Tim Cook
Apple was following WELL ESTABLISH IRISH TAX RULES that does not levy taxes on income booked in subsidiaries of Irish companies that are outside the state. Those are LAWS that are clear and were available to any corp. -
EU tax investigation concludes, Apple hammered with $14.5 billion bill
singularity said:sog35 said:cnocbui said:sog35 said:The EU still refuses to state what law Apple broke.
All they are saying is Apple paid a too low effective tax rate. That is totally ridiculous. Any other company could have used the same provisions Apple used to lower their effective tax rate.
This ruling is so ridiculous its obvious it will be thrown out.
Ireland has the right to charge what ever tax rate they wish. They also have the right to decide on the other finer points of tax law. This decision is saying Ireland does not have the right. This decision is saying the EU can swoop in 10 years after the fact and change Ireland's soverign tax laws if they feel it goes against their opinion of matters. In other words the opinion of a few beaucrates in the EU is worth more than the entire citizenship of Ireland. Crazy.
You still have not.
You are just saying general things like "oh they paid too little tax".
Paying too little tax is not a LAW.
Show me the Irish law that Apple broke.
You won't be able too. Because even the EU says nothing about what law Apple broke.
From the summary. which I linked earlier in the thread. It does contain difficult words but try to comprehend. The rule they have broken is under EU law and thus the agreements are invalid (pending any appeals). -
EU tax investigation concludes, Apple hammered with $14.5 billion bill
gatorguy said:redhanded said:Being pedantic, 0.005 isn't an actual tax rate, the EU judgement says it was the effective tax rate.
So it seems that Apple have a mind numbingly complex set of corporate entities and the Irish tax authorities made a ruling that Apple could allocate the vast majority of their profits to a corporate entity that didn't pay tax while a much smaller amount of profits were allocated to another entity that paid tax at the Irish corporate rate which is 12.5%.
The EU are basically saying that everything should have been taxed at 12.5%.
Expect this to go to appeal with an argument if the ruling about allocation of profits was correct or not. The Irish government will back their own tax department.