In all honesty, I didn't think the iPad was anything special. i purchased one, i still don't think it's THAT much better than the competition, but the apps and the fluidity of the device make it very nice to have and use. It is definitely a very good device that I will purchase again once it's upgraded.
It's fantastic how quick and easy it is to recategorized devices depending on the statistic one is trying to peddle. The iPad is like the chameleon of consumer devices! This is how conversations go down on AI...
These PC OS platform statistics look terrible!
Well duh! OS platforms aren't important. Individual vendors are!
Ah, that's a lot better! But these "largest PC vendor" stats don't look right. Apple isn't quite at the top!
You want to beef up those "largest PC vendor" stats, just include the iPad. Simple!
Hang on... if the iPad is counted as a "PC" then what are we going to do with the "media tablet" stats?
No worries, just include the iPad there as well!
Oh no! I've just realized iOS isn't the highest selling smart phone OS
Well duh! Individual vendors aren't important. OS platforms are!
That makes heaps of sense! If only we didn't include the iPad as a PC and a media tablet we could create a new "mobile OS" category that iOS can win!
Well that's where you would be wrong! The iPad fits right in that statistic as well! It's quite obviously a media PC tablet mobile OS device computer
Cool. So is Android's growth much higher than iOS at the moment?
Market share doesn't matter. It's all about how many apps your platform has
Doesn't Android have a lot of apps as well?
Didn't I just tell you? It's all about the quality of apps your platform has
Oh. Well that makes sense. Isn't Android getting a lot of quality apps now as well?
Who cares about that? Don't you even understand how much of the mobile industries profit ends up at Apple? It's more than every other company combined. 70% of the iPhone price is pure profit!!!!!!
Doesn't that mean Apple over-charged me for my iPhone?
You don't understand the difference between cost and value.
The group notes that Apple's iPad now accounts for 97.2 percent of all tablet-originating web traffic, driving home the reality that competitors have not yet released a significant tablet competitor.
But just wait for Android cookie crunch, strawberry jam and whipped cream with sprinkles!
The iPad's become the first real tablet computer, just like the iPod became the real first music player. And just as the iPod never let any other music player beat it, the iPad will always crush every other tablet.
But just wait for Android cookie crunch, strawberry jam and whipped cream with sprinkles!
That'll really show those apple fanbois...
I really, really try to stay out of the whole Android/iOS thing. BUT ... I just have a problem taking something called "Ice Cream Sandwich" seriously. I really do. Maybe that's just me. I don't know. But it seems like such a silly name, and frighteningly, your examples aren't that far off from reality.
I really, really try to stay out of the whole Android/iOS thing. BUT ... I just have a problem taking something called "Ice Cream Sandwich" seriously. I really do. Maybe that's just me. I don't know. But it seems like such a silly name, and frighteningly, your examples aren't that far off from reality.
It's a code name. Android fans have fun with it. If you'd prefer calling it Android 4.0 by all means do so.
1 - “A new market research report notes that mobile devices now amount to almost 7 percent of all US web traffic, with Apple's iOS representing a 58.5 percent slice of all mobile traffic and the iPad now accounting for more traffic than iPhones. “
2 - “Among iOS users, iPad now accounts for 46.8 percent of all traffic generated, making it now a more prolific tool than the iPhone for mobile web use, which represents 42.6 percent of iOS traffic.”
3 - “It has been speculated that the huge divergence between Android's popularity (sales of Android-based phones have outnumbered iPhone sales most of this year) and its minority presence in web analytics is due to the fact that the majority of low end devices now use Android, including basic models that work like feature phones.”
The first two statement contradict the third. iOS figures are skewed by significantly higher web usage per iPad device than phones or music players etc.
iPhone has 24.9% of mobile web traffic, compared to Android phones 30.1% (assuming Android tablets make up the 3% of non iPad tablet market which we know is not true). If we take iPad and other tablets out of the equation, (60.3% of total web traffic) we see iPhone with 39.9% of web traffic and Android phones with 48.3%. With these figures, iPhone users do have higher average web usege, but not by much. Roughly estimated, one iPhone user generates 1.5 units of use, whereas i Android phone owner generates 1.1 unit of use.
I don't know how things work in the US, but in Europe, this difference would be expected given that iPhone users tend to have high end phone contracts with high data limits. The availability of cheaper Android phones means many are on mid range contracts with lower data limits.
Screw all other tablets! And screw Fandroids too, the most clueless and ignorant people on the planet.
Nobody is buying any other tablets! People need to quit quoting bogus 'shipped to retailers' numbers. The reality is that nobody wants the other tablets, besides a few fools and really poor people who happen to wet their pants when they can get a crappy failed tablet for $99 on a firesale.
And the few unfortunate morons who do buy other tablets are apparently not using them!
Some people are using them primarily as a doorstop, while a few other angry people have already thrown their useless tablets into the trash!
97% of entire tablet traffic is iPad!
What a way to totally dominate, kick ass, obliterate the competition, putting all pathetic Fandroids to shame and totally humiliating these clueless creatures.
i have an ipad, ipad2 and an asus transformer tablet. there are things about them all that i don't like and things about them all that i love. i prefer web browsing on the asus, but, netflix on the ipad2. the display on the ipad2 is superior, but, i like the keyboard/battery dock with the transformer. i also like the google integration on the asus but the ipad integration with itunes and the mac is better than what you get with android on the asus.
i have an ipad, ipad2 and an asus transformer tablet. there are things about them all that i don't like and things about them all that i love. i prefer web browsing on the asus, but, netflix on the ipad2. the display on the ipad2 is superior, but, i like the keyboard/battery dock with the transformer. i also like the google integration on the asus but the ipad integration with itunes and the mac is better than what you get with android on the asus.
Don't bother replying sensibly to Apple ][. He is somehow a pro Apple troll on a pro Apple site. Quite a feat I must admit.
I'm an Apple fan and my family has five Macs, six or more iPods, and we love Apple products. However, when they came out, iPads only worked on the ATT network which is abysmal in performance. I wasn't willing to trade off excellent cell coverage for six people to get one cool tablet for myself and have to put up with lousy service to boot. I did buy Android phones and tablets and have been pretty happy with them, but iPhones and iPads are better and now that Apple products are sold at Verizon, I'll go that way when my current stuff needs replacing. Despite what some of the more ravenous posts on here indicate, it's not always so clear cut as it is for a single young person only looking out for him/herself.
Guys, there are plenty of people who are bi-modal, myself included. Fixed computers, I use PCs. Why, because I'm a hardware nerd and I like building, something Apple makes difficult. My wife has a Mac. I have an iPod. My phone is a droid, because, quite frankly, its a better phone (you know, for talking to peopl), IMHO. The android OS is fine, but really, an OS is just a platform, so I don't get the religious devotion to either. I'm in the market for a tablet, and I'm going to buy an iPad. I'm not considering the android products because I think in this instance, the Apple approach makes more sense, for something I'm going to use as a news reader, or light Internet browsing device.
That said, this is an Apple forum and come here to discuss and read about Apple products, not to read flames of Apple uers (because I am one, some of the time) or read flames about non-Apple users (because I am one, some of the time).
Guys, there are plenty of people who are bi-modal, myself included. Fixed computers, I use PCs. Why, because I'm a hardware nerd and I like building, something Apple makes difficult. My wife has a Mac. I have an iPod. My phone is a droid, because, quite frankly, its a better phone (you know, for talking to peopl), IMHO. The android OS is fine, but really, an OS is just a platform, so I don't get the religious devotion to either. I'm in the market for a tablet, and I'm going to buy an iPad. I'm not considering the android products because I think in this instance, the Apple approach makes more sense, for something I'm going to use as a news reader, or light Internet browsing device.
That said, this is an Apple forum and come here to discuss and read about Apple products, not to read flames of Apple uers (because I am one, some of the time) or read flames about non-Apple users (because I am one, some of the time).
I'd never suggest an Android tablet at this point in time. They are trying the same blitzkreig approach with tablets as with phones and it isn't going to work that way. What they need to do is release one or two tablet models per OEM per year. Highly optimized. These recent efforts seem half baked.
I'd never suggest an Android tablet at this point in time. They are trying the same blitzkreig approach with tablets as with phones and it isn't going to work that way. What they need to do is release one or two tablet models per OEM per year. Highly optimized. These recent efforts seem half baked.
I think that's right. But, I also think there's something special about the iPad that, like iPod, created its own genre and thus attempts to copy it will be futile. I don't see anyone buying a Zune today, and it's entirely likely that the same fate will befall other tablets. It's a market Apple created and thus owns. That isn't true with the iPhone. There were other smartphones and web devices before the iPhone and there will continue to be. Phones, like computers are pretty common/essential devices now, and it isn't going to be possible for one company to dominate the market.
I think that's right. But, I also think there's something special about the iPad that, like iPod, created its own genre and thus attempts to copy it will be futile. I don't see anyone buying a Zune today, and it's entirely likely that the same fate will befall other tablets. It's a market Apple created and thus owns. That isn't true with the iPhone. There were other smartphones and web devices before the iPhone and there will continue to be. Phones, like computers are pretty common/essential devices now, and it isn't going to be possible for one company to dominate the market.
True...I can see that. Google and the OEMs had their time (a small window) to offer a significant alternative to the iOS ecosystem and instead we got the buggy and incomplete and not really ground breaking Xoom subsidized to a carrier for a ridiculous price, sub par hardware, prominent features coming soon, designed to counter the year old iPad knowing full well a second gen iPad was around the corner. They needed to release something so amazing, so ground breaking, so WOW that even Apple ][ would stop to stare for maybe even a second.
As you can tell I am not a fan of Android tablets and have steered 2 of my friends away from cheaper Android tablets because there literally is no point yet, if ever.
Also side note: Google REALLLLY needs to dictate a strict broad criteria for app UI and icons...look at any Android screenshot thread and you'll see awesome screen, awesome screen, awesome screen, then about 10 hideous screens with pixelated images...etc...some people are literally blind to design.
With Apple's focus on form and function they manage very few if any ugly apps.
Google can still enforce DESIGN paradigms while still having a relatively open market.
Also side note: Google REALLLLY needs to dictate a strict broad criteria for app UI and icons...look at any Android screenshot thread and you'll see awesome screen, awesome screen, awesome screen, then about 10 hideous screens with pixelated images...etc...some people are literally blind to design.
With Apple's focus on form and function they manage very few if any ugly apps.
Google can still enforce DESIGN paradigms while still having a relatively open market.
This is a good point. But the open market is a double edged sword. As an android phone user, and I do think that the Droid-based phones work very well and are well constructed. And, I do like the open App approach, but, this also leads to fraudulent Apps that hang around way longer than controversial/fraudulent Apps in the iTunes world. For months there was several versions of a droid version of cut the rope, none of which were real, that, once you read the reviews, would give you crashes, or were simply dynamic wallpaper. I don't have tons of apps on my iPod, but what I've seen, this isn't much of a problem with Apple.
However, when they came out, iPads only worked on the ATT network which is abysmal in performance. I wasn't willing to trade off excellent cell coverage for six people to get one cool tablet for myself and have to put up with lousy service to boot.
Why would you have had to given up any ?excellent cell coverage??
The iPad has its own month-to-month service. It wouldn't replace your phone service.
hmm... I wonder how they got that 97% because IIRC the honeycomb tablet has the ability to mask itself as a different device, so that may skew numbers a bit:
Why would you have had to given up any ?excellent cell coverage??
The iPad has its own month-to-month service. It wouldn't replace your phone service.
That's why I didn't do it, but there were MANY people who ditched their cell carrier and went to ATT for their cell service because they wanted an iPad so badly.
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I've been a mac fanatic since 1990 and by your standards, am obviously of superior intellect and I am quite sure you are an idiot.
Who cares how long you've been a Mac fanatic for? I've been a Mac fan long before 1990 and what does that have to do with anything anyway?
Read the rules.
I am allowed to attack Fandroids. Nobody is allowed to attack me. Those are the rules. If you don't like it, then that's your problem.
These PC OS platform statistics look terrible! Ah, that's a lot better! But these "largest PC vendor" stats don't look right. Apple isn't quite at the top! Hang on... if the iPad is counted as a "PC" then what are we going to do with the "media tablet" stats? Oh no! I've just realized iOS isn't the highest selling smart phone OS That makes heaps of sense! If only we didn't include the iPad as a PC and a media tablet we could create a new "mobile OS" category that iOS can win! Cool. So is Android's growth much higher than iOS at the moment? Doesn't Android have a lot of apps as well? Oh. Well that makes sense. Isn't Android getting a lot of quality apps now as well? Doesn't that mean Apple over-charged me for my iPhone? Well now I'm confused.
The group notes that Apple's iPad now accounts for 97.2 percent of all tablet-originating web traffic, driving home the reality that competitors have not yet released a significant tablet competitor.
But just wait for Android cookie crunch, strawberry jam and whipped cream with sprinkles!
That'll really show those apple fanbois...
But just wait for Android cookie crunch, strawberry jam and whipped cream with sprinkles!
That'll really show those apple fanbois...
I really, really try to stay out of the whole Android/iOS thing. BUT ... I just have a problem taking something called "Ice Cream Sandwich" seriously. I really do. Maybe that's just me. I don't know. But it seems like such a silly name, and frighteningly, your examples aren't that far off from reality.
I really, really try to stay out of the whole Android/iOS thing. BUT ... I just have a problem taking something called "Ice Cream Sandwich" seriously. I really do. Maybe that's just me. I don't know. But it seems like such a silly name, and frighteningly, your examples aren't that far off from reality.
It's a code name. Android fans have fun with it. If you'd prefer calling it Android 4.0 by all means do so.
2 - “Among iOS users, iPad now accounts for 46.8 percent of all traffic generated, making it now a more prolific tool than the iPhone for mobile web use, which represents 42.6 percent of iOS traffic.”
3 - “It has been speculated that the huge divergence between Android's popularity (sales of Android-based phones have outnumbered iPhone sales most of this year) and its minority presence in web analytics is due to the fact that the majority of low end devices now use Android, including basic models that work like feature phones.”
The first two statement contradict the third. iOS figures are skewed by significantly higher web usage per iPad device than phones or music players etc.
iPhone has 24.9% of mobile web traffic, compared to Android phones 30.1% (assuming Android tablets make up the 3% of non iPad tablet market which we know is not true). If we take iPad and other tablets out of the equation, (60.3% of total web traffic) we see iPhone with 39.9% of web traffic and Android phones with 48.3%. With these figures, iPhone users do have higher average web usege, but not by much. Roughly estimated, one iPhone user generates 1.5 units of use, whereas i Android phone owner generates 1.1 unit of use.
I don't know how things work in the US, but in Europe, this difference would be expected given that iPhone users tend to have high end phone contracts with high data limits. The availability of cheaper Android phones means many are on mid range contracts with lower data limits.
Screw all other tablets! And screw Fandroids too, the most clueless and ignorant people on the planet.
Nobody is buying any other tablets! People need to quit quoting bogus 'shipped to retailers' numbers. The reality is that nobody wants the other tablets, besides a few fools and really poor people who happen to wet their pants when they can get a crappy failed tablet for $99 on a firesale.
And the few unfortunate morons who do buy other tablets are apparently not using them!
Some people are using them primarily as a doorstop, while a few other angry people have already thrown their useless tablets into the trash!
97% of entire tablet traffic is iPad!
What a way to totally dominate, kick ass, obliterate the competition, putting all pathetic Fandroids to shame and totally humiliating these clueless creatures.
i have an ipad, ipad2 and an asus transformer tablet. there are things about them all that i don't like and things about them all that i love. i prefer web browsing on the asus, but, netflix on the ipad2. the display on the ipad2 is superior, but, i like the keyboard/battery dock with the transformer. i also like the google integration on the asus but the ipad integration with itunes and the mac is better than what you get with android on the asus.
i have an ipad, ipad2 and an asus transformer tablet. there are things about them all that i don't like and things about them all that i love. i prefer web browsing on the asus, but, netflix on the ipad2. the display on the ipad2 is superior, but, i like the keyboard/battery dock with the transformer. i also like the google integration on the asus but the ipad integration with itunes and the mac is better than what you get with android on the asus.
Don't bother replying sensibly to Apple ][. He is somehow a pro Apple troll on a pro Apple site. Quite a feat I must admit.
That said, this is an Apple forum and come here to discuss and read about Apple products, not to read flames of Apple uers (because I am one, some of the time) or read flames about non-Apple users (because I am one, some of the time).
Guys, there are plenty of people who are bi-modal, myself included. Fixed computers, I use PCs. Why, because I'm a hardware nerd and I like building, something Apple makes difficult. My wife has a Mac. I have an iPod. My phone is a droid, because, quite frankly, its a better phone (you know, for talking to peopl), IMHO. The android OS is fine, but really, an OS is just a platform, so I don't get the religious devotion to either. I'm in the market for a tablet, and I'm going to buy an iPad. I'm not considering the android products because I think in this instance, the Apple approach makes more sense, for something I'm going to use as a news reader, or light Internet browsing device.
That said, this is an Apple forum and come here to discuss and read about Apple products, not to read flames of Apple uers (because I am one, some of the time) or read flames about non-Apple users (because I am one, some of the time).
I'd never suggest an Android tablet at this point in time. They are trying the same blitzkreig approach with tablets as with phones and it isn't going to work that way. What they need to do is release one or two tablet models per OEM per year. Highly optimized. These recent efforts seem half baked.
I'd never suggest an Android tablet at this point in time. They are trying the same blitzkreig approach with tablets as with phones and it isn't going to work that way. What they need to do is release one or two tablet models per OEM per year. Highly optimized. These recent efforts seem half baked.
I think that's right. But, I also think there's something special about the iPad that, like iPod, created its own genre and thus attempts to copy it will be futile. I don't see anyone buying a Zune today, and it's entirely likely that the same fate will befall other tablets. It's a market Apple created and thus owns. That isn't true with the iPhone. There were other smartphones and web devices before the iPhone and there will continue to be. Phones, like computers are pretty common/essential devices now, and it isn't going to be possible for one company to dominate the market.
I think that's right. But, I also think there's something special about the iPad that, like iPod, created its own genre and thus attempts to copy it will be futile. I don't see anyone buying a Zune today, and it's entirely likely that the same fate will befall other tablets. It's a market Apple created and thus owns. That isn't true with the iPhone. There were other smartphones and web devices before the iPhone and there will continue to be. Phones, like computers are pretty common/essential devices now, and it isn't going to be possible for one company to dominate the market.
True...I can see that. Google and the OEMs had their time (a small window) to offer a significant alternative to the iOS ecosystem and instead we got the buggy and incomplete and not really ground breaking Xoom subsidized to a carrier for a ridiculous price, sub par hardware, prominent features coming soon, designed to counter the year old iPad knowing full well a second gen iPad was around the corner. They needed to release something so amazing, so ground breaking, so WOW that even Apple ][ would stop to stare for maybe even a second.
As you can tell I am not a fan of Android tablets and have steered 2 of my friends away from cheaper Android tablets because there literally is no point yet, if ever.
Also side note: Google REALLLLY needs to dictate a strict broad criteria for app UI and icons...look at any Android screenshot thread and you'll see awesome screen, awesome screen, awesome screen, then about 10 hideous screens with pixelated images...etc...some people are literally blind to design.
With Apple's focus on form and function they manage very few if any ugly apps.
Google can still enforce DESIGN paradigms while still having a relatively open market.
Also side note: Google REALLLLY needs to dictate a strict broad criteria for app UI and icons...look at any Android screenshot thread and you'll see awesome screen, awesome screen, awesome screen, then about 10 hideous screens with pixelated images...etc...some people are literally blind to design.
With Apple's focus on form and function they manage very few if any ugly apps.
Google can still enforce DESIGN paradigms while still having a relatively open market.
This is a good point. But the open market is a double edged sword. As an android phone user, and I do think that the Droid-based phones work very well and are well constructed. And, I do like the open App approach, but, this also leads to fraudulent Apps that hang around way longer than controversial/fraudulent Apps in the iTunes world. For months there was several versions of a droid version of cut the rope, none of which were real, that, once you read the reviews, would give you crashes, or were simply dynamic wallpaper. I don't have tons of apps on my iPod, but what I've seen, this isn't much of a problem with Apple.
However, when they came out, iPads only worked on the ATT network which is abysmal in performance. I wasn't willing to trade off excellent cell coverage for six people to get one cool tablet for myself and have to put up with lousy service to boot.
Why would you have had to given up any ?excellent cell coverage??
The iPad has its own month-to-month service. It wouldn't replace your phone service.
http://blog.assortedgarbage.com/2011...-agent-string/
Why would you have had to given up any ?excellent cell coverage??
The iPad has its own month-to-month service. It wouldn't replace your phone service.
That's why I didn't do it, but there were MANY people who ditched their cell carrier and went to ATT for their cell service because they wanted an iPad so badly.