Originally Posted by kotatsu
Oh the fanboys are out already I see.
Ah, invoking the fanboy. Surely a quality and logical argument will be presented.
I'd much sooner have a Win7 tablet than the iPad. It may not look at pretty but at least it would be able to multi-task, run flash, use Skype video chat, and install any application I like.
I can think of two places (pandora and GPS trails app) where I would actually need multitasking. I have no doubt Apple will one day introduce multitasking - but they will do it in a way that is manageable by non-techies. One of the more popular apps on Android is a utility that helps you manage your phone! Yup, there is a recipe for broad market adoption! There are far more non-technical people in the world than people who are comfortable managing their devices.
Heck, I can manage a device if I have to - I did for years with Windows Mobile - but it was a PITA! I can and even I don't want to. If you want to, fine - Android or WinMo are the platforms for you. Have fun!
The iPad is a worrying step in home computing
Really? Worrying? Is Apple going to come to your house and confiscate your other equipment?
a move from open platforms to an incredibly closed, restrictive platform.
So don't buy it. The market will decide which model is more appropriate. Why are "open" people so threatened by something different than what they are offering? If the concept for "open" was so superior, it should be able to compete on it's own.
Afraid of a little competition from a different philosophy?
People accept limitations on smart phones because they are tiny and underpowered
I don't have any limitations on my iPhone - well, other than being able to run Pandora in the background. On the scale of issues to have to deal with, that's pretty frigging minor. Esp. compared to the historical alternatives.
If you want to talk about restrictive, how about the Windows Mobile phone I ditched for the iPhone? For being an "open" platform it was restrictive in that it was so cumbersome to use that I pretty much gave up and just used it as a phone. But it was "open" - I could download crapware from anywhere on the Internet and install it. Even if I found a decent program, it was still hobbled by the OS that surrounded it.
Android isn't bad, but it has some pretty glaring deficiencies and isn't nearly as polished as the iPhone. But it has lots of features and it's "open"!
but on a laptop/netbook type system, no chance. It's either open or not worth considering for a second.
I have a funny suspicion there aren't as many people who are concerned about "open" as you are.
Apple should have just sold it as a Kindle competitor (although not of course outside the US, where Apple will not sell ebooks at all).
Yup, that's the way to be successful - try to share a niche market with a device that's just as limited.
By going after the netbook market all the do is illustrate how incredibly primative and limited the iPad is. My first computer ever (a Commodore 64) was more open than an iPad.
1) The iPad isn't going after the netbook market.
2) There is no netbook market. It's the "I think I can get a full notebook for $300" market - and it's drying up as people find out that netbooks are not a replacement for a full blown laptop. Yes, netbooks have a niche but the real irony is the netbook niche is smaller than the iPad niche.
But don't take my word for it - let's bookmark this thread and come back in a year
3) Most people don't care about "open".
Philosophy doesn't do work for me. Computers and devices like the iPhone and soon to be iPad are tools. If they do what I want, they are good. If they don't, I won't use them. I couldn't care less if a device is "open", I'm far more interested in if it's "useful". "useful" is a good concept - it translates into accomplishing things. Hand wringing over "open" may be exciting for pontificating on the Internet and an interesting philosophy to live by, but it's not interesting enough for me to be a slave to the dogma. If it works for you, use it. If it doesn't, great -but enough with the "open" crap already. Talk about a total red herring.