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Briefly: RIM defends PlayBook, It Gets Better employee video, white iPhone 4

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Research in Motion executives spoke out in defense of the BlackBerry PlayBook, calling it "superior," while Apple employees from the LGBT community have posted a video for the It Gets Better project. Finally, Apple has again confirmed that the white iPhone 4 will launch this spring.

PlayBook

Speaking to Bloomberg, RIM co-CEOs Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis took issue with initial reviews of the 7-inch tablet that criticized the device as unfinished and having been rushed to market.

I dont think thats fair, said Balsillie in a television interview. Balsillie disagreed with reviewers, who had specifically drawn attention to the lack of native email and calendar applications on the PlayBook, and pointed out the 60 million BlackBerry smartphone users who can access their email on the tablet via BlackBerry Bridging functionality.

A lot of the people that want this want a secure and free extension of their BlackBerry, he added.

Balsillie remained optimistic about projected sales of the PlayBook, which goes on sale in Canada and the U.S. on Apr. 19. I like our chances for a lot of share, he said. Were very excited about where we are.



Investors reacted negatively to the critical reviews of the PlayBook, which were posted late Wednesday. Shares of RIM were down 1.66 percent at the close of market on Thursday.

Lazaridis defended the company's decision to go with a 7-inch form factor, which Apple CEO Steve Jobs has openly criticized. This is superior, he said. Its far more portable, its lighter in your hands, you can hold it for longer.



It Gets Better

As part of the It Gets Better campaign to end suicide among lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered youth, employees at Apple have created a video with their stories about coming out and overcoming adversity, offering a rare glimpse into the personal lives of employees of the notoriously secretive company.



In recent years, Apple has been rated as the top "gay-friendly" tech company, according to one survey.

In 2008, the company made a rare political statement by donating $100,000 to the campaign opposing Proposition 8, a California measure that sought to ban gay marriage.

"Apple was among the first California companies to offer equal rights and benefits to our employees same-sex partners, and we strongly believe that a persons fundamental rights including the right to marry should not be affected by their sexual orientation. Apple views this as a civil rights issue, rather than just a political issue, and is therefore speaking out publicly against Proposition 8," the company said in a statement announcing the donation.

In January, a controversial report by Valleywag outed Apple Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook as "the most powerful gay person in tech."

White iPhone 4

Apple on Thursday confirmed reports that the white version of the iPhone 4 will be arriving this spring, as noted by the The Wall Street Journal. After repeated delays, the Cupertino, Calif., iPhone maker indicated last October that the device would be delayed until spring 2011.



AppleInsider reported in March that Apple remained on track to ship the white iPhone 4 by the end of April. Shortly after, Apple VP Phil Schiller reiterated the company's plan for a spring release of the device.

On Wednesday, both Bloomberg and Reuters corroborated the April timeline for the device, citing people familiar with the situation.
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Actually, it's RIM that needs to post a "It Gets Better" video. That's what I thought the headline said when I first read it.
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Actually, it's RIM that needs to post a "It Gets Better" video. That's what I thought the headline said when I first read it.

You pipped me. That is what I was going to say.
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That's a beautiful, moving video.

Yay to Apple and their employees.

Especially the sexy bears.
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That's a beautiful, moving video.

Yay to Apple and their employees.

Especially the sexy bears.

iBears.
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You pipped me. That is what I was going to say.

It was all too easy, wasn't it.
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Originally Posted by bikertwin View Post

That's a beautiful, moving video.

Yay to Apple and their employees.

Especially the sexy bears.

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Originally Posted by 8CoreWhore View Post

iBears.

At RIM, PlayBears.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

A lot of the people that want this want a secure and free extension of their BlackBerry, he added.

The problem is, not a lot of people want it..

Okay, maybe not now, but when words spread out that it isn't as good as advertised.
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Actually, it's RIM that needs to post a "It Gets Better" video. That's what I thought the headline said when I first read it.

I also thought RIM is producing white iPhone 4.. I was like "WTF" for a couple of second..
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anyone see a line for the playbook yet?

me neither.

Did they really intentionally limit their market to only people with a blackberry, but no iPad?
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Originally Posted by kilimanjaro View Post

I also thought RIM is producing white iPhone 4.. I was like "WTF" for a couple of second..

I don’t mind these Neapolitan articles but I wish they would use a semicolon in the title to make a clearer distinction between them. Also, I wish they wouldn’t add Updates to some seemingly random place in the article.
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Did they really intentionally limit their market to only people with a blackberry, but no iPad?

yep.

They haven't really created a tablet but rather a tablet sized add on screen to a blackberry. chances are that few folks really want that particular tech, especially compared to those that would want a stand alone device
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Yay! Balsillie and Lazaridis are obliged to Say Things, in public! They never fail to delight and amaze, with their special brand of impenetrable gibberish.

And RIM's slow slide into irrelevancy seems to be driving them mad, so you get unhinged on top of gibberish, which is like a strawberry sundae of crazy!
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Did they really intentionally limit their market to only people with a blackberry, but no iPad?

That is what really baffle us all, along with analysts, that RIM is tying up its PlayBook with BlackBerry handset if the user want to access emails, calendars, and other stuff. Maybe they want to boost up the declining BlackBerry handsets sale.

But that's like tying up to a sinking ship..
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I dont mean these Neapolitan articles but I wish they would use a semicolon in the title to make a clearer distinction between them. Also, I wish they wouldnt add Updates to some seemingly random place in the article.

Agree. Does AI read any of these posts in their own forum..?
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"A lot of the people that want this want a secure and free extension of their BlackBerry, [Ball Silly] added.

And just how is the Playbook a free extension of anything? Do these siamese twins suck on Cepacol lozenges before they start speaking in tongues?
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Speaking to Bloomberg, RIM co-CEOs Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis took issue with initial reviews of the 7-inch tablet that criticized the device as unfinished and having been rushed to market.

“I don’t think that’s fair,” said Balsillie in a television interview. Balsillie disagreed with reviewers, who had specifically drawn attention to the lack of native email and calendar applications on the PlayBook, and pointed out the 60 million BlackBerry smartphone users who can access their email on the tablet via BlackBerry Bridging functionality.

Sorry Jim, but you don't get to decide whats fair. Customers do.

Also, lets think about the addressable market for the Playbook. RIM suggests that the addressable market is 60 million people because there are 60 million bberry users. So by comparison, that would mean the addressable market for other tablets is what... 3 billion? Pretty much anybody who is old enough could potentially buy an iPad. But only people with a bberry could buy a Playbook.

What an amazing strategy. They intentially built a device that only 60 million people could buy while their competitors are building devices that ANYBODY can buy. Yeah, Playbook is going to be really successful.
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Help me understand this - why don't AI split those articles into different pages instead of altogether? Don't they want to make $$ via ads per page and better SEO per page than combined? Time to break that traditional, AI.
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Originally Posted by kilimanjaro View Post

The problem is, not a lot of people want it..

Okay, maybe not now, but when words spread out that it isn't as good as advertised.

I finally got my iPad 2 today and i love it. I'm sitting in front of my 27" iMac and typing all my emails on my iPad instead.

When I think that the playbook has less than half the screen of the iPad 2 it really makes me think, what's the point?

The only thing I wish is that more people would get with the program and get rid of flash already!
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One of the Apple employees in the video is Randy Ubillos, of Final Cut Pro fame. See http://rickandrandy.com/
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Another tablet that's going to be DOA because of poor marketing.

They should've created the email app even if that's just a link to the web browser's page (gmail, yahoo mail, etc), since it can run Flash the 'client' should at least be usable.
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Balsillie remained optimistic about projected sales of the PlayBook, which goes on sale in Canada and the U.S. on Apr. 19. I like our chances for a lot of share, he said. Were very excited about where we are.

Eerily reminiscent of when Ballmer criticized the iPhone and said he liked Microsoft's mobile strategy a lot.
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So when I used to see Blackberries I imagined some guys sitting around a table and saying: "Let's see if we can make these little buttons any smallerand think up an even goofier pattern to put them in". It turns out these were the guys? And now they're going to take on tablets? That should go well....
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I finally got my iPad 2 today and i love it. I'm sitting in front of my 27" iMac and typing all my emails on my iPad instead.

When I think that the playbook has less than half the screen of the iPad 2 it really makes me think, what's the point?

The only thing I wish is that more people would get with the program and get rid of flash already!

I'll take your iMac if you find it obsolete.
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I finally got my iPad 2 today and i love it. I'm sitting in front of my 27" iMac and typing all my emails on my iPad instead.

When I think that the playbook has less than half the screen of the iPad 2 it really makes me think, what's the point?

The only thing I wish is that more people would get with the program and get rid of flash already!

I envy you, I'm still waiting for iPad 2 to officially come here..

Exactly, like every reviewers out there have said it: there's no good reason for users to choose PlayBook over the better choice: iPad 2.

I think Flash will survive another year or two because tablet makers (other than Apple) are touting it as an important 'feature' to compete with iPad, what else can they say that the iPad can't do. Even Adobe realize it, it's only a matter of time.. So in the mean time, we'll have to endure the pain of having Flash around..
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I finally got my iPad 2 today and i love it. I'm sitting in front of my 27" iMac and typing all my emails on my iPad instead.

When I think that the playbook has less than half the screen of the iPad 2 it really makes me think, what's the point?

The only thing I wish is that more people would get with the program and get rid of flash already!

iPad 2 is pretty awesome. Using it feels like this is what a tablet should be like. iPad 1 now seems laggy in comparison. iPad 2 is fluid, "snappy" and quite a lot of decent apps out now.

We're already in mid-April. 2011 is indeed the year of the iPad 2. It will take the competitors another half a year just to refine their "iPad killlers".

As for smartphones, well, meh I was never into phones that much anyway. I'm really hoping I don't get the iPhone 5, because my iPhone 4 is doing quite nicely and can take me into another year easily, I reckon! But knowing Apple...
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post

I'll take your iMac if you find it obsolete.

Damn, I was about to say that..
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I envy you, I'm still waiting for iPad 2 to officially come here..

Well, for us in South East Asia (I'm in Malaysia) it's always painful waiting for the official release. I didn't waste my time this time around. Got it from the grey market but from a source I trust (I got my iPad 1 from him, and he travels quite frequently to Australia so he can get warranty support plus Singapore is launching officially end of this month).

By the time the official launch happens here and you actually get your hands on one, just a several months later and a new model is out in the US, Europe and Australia. Then you're back to waiting for the models.

I got my iPad 2 about a month after the official US launch and I have no regrets so far, even though I paid quite a premium for just a 16GB WiFi only model. Plus, I might still be able to resell my iPad 1 for a reasonable amount because iPad 2 may not be launched in Malaysia for at least another month or two. Though I like having another iPad as a "backup".

If you love it, and won't have to live on the streets paying for it, find a trusted source and go for it.
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Well, for us in South East Asia (I'm in Malaysia) it's always painful waiting for the official release. I didn't waste my time this time around. Got it from the grey market but from a source I trust (I got my iPad 1 from him, and he travels quite frequently to Australia so he can get warranty support plus Singapore is launching officially end of this month).

By the time the official launch happens here and you actually get your hands on one, just a several months later and a new model is out in the US, Europe and Australia. Then you're back to waiting for the models.

I got my iPad 2 about a month after the official US launch and I have no regrets so far, even though I paid quite a premium for just a 16GB WiFi only model. Plus, I might still be able to resell my iPad 1 for a reasonable amount because iPad 2 may not be launched in Malaysia for at least another month or two. Though I like having another iPad as a "backup".

If you love it, and won't have to live on the streets paying for it, find a trusted source and go for it.

That's what I did, same like you, for the iPad 1 I hold now in my hand.

But apparently, the iPad 2 is harder to get nowadays even in the grey market and even if I'm willing to pay a *highly* premium price for it. I guess I'm just unlucky enough to find a better source, but lucky enough to feel satisfied with my current iPad.
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One of our clients moved from blackberry to iPhone and after a year of using iPhones are potentially looking to go back to blackberry. They had 2 main bugbears with the iPhone. One was the device kept resetting during calls and the second was having to use iTunes even though they did not sync music.

The first issue was solved in minutes, when they eventually told us they were having problems, we restored the iPhone 3GS and set it up as n new phone. Then after putting their email etc back it worked flawlessly.

After this iTunes became a mute point as they were only in iTunes so often because ther kept doing a restore when they tried to fix the resetting issue.

These are older guys and although they were fine for a year and had only an issue recently I think that they would be better on a blackberry as it's features are limited. Now, when I look at them as blackberry users I can in no way imagine them being able to get to grips with a playbook let alone pair it with their blackberry.

New blackberry users are now older folks picking up free handsets on £10 per month contracts. It would seem unlikely that they would be interested in the playbook. I can see RIM having a hard sell on this, especially as many blackberry users are stuck in their ways an potentially technically inept.
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I finally got my iPad 2 today and i love it. I'm sitting in front of my 27" iMac and typing all my emails on my iPad instead.

When I think that the playbook has less than half the screen of the iPad 2 it really makes me think, what's the point?

The only thing I wish is that more people would get with the program and get rid of flash already!

I find myself doing the same. I got the 32gb 3G iPad 2 and it's been great. On my desk I have my 27" quad core iMac, my 17" HP laptop my iPad 2 and my iPhone 4. I have barely used the iPhone for anything other than calls since getting the iPad 2 and the iMac pretty much just runs world of Warcraft these days while the HP is used for remote support connections. The iPad 2 is used for all my email and browsing.

I have no issues with flash, I have yet to find a site that I need to use which has flash on it. I run ad block and click to flash on the iMac and flash/ad blocker on the HP in firefox.
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Originally Posted by bikertwin View Post

That's a beautiful, moving video.

Yay to Apple and their employees.

Especially the sexy bears.

Seconded!
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Seconded!

Thirded

The It Gets Better Project is so inspiring and this contribution from Apple employees is very welcome and beautiful. Human beings can be so great and amidst all the mayhem out there it's good to be reminded of that.
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It's probably not appropriate for Apple employees to be using the company's name for their own personal agenda's like this.

Apple as a brand should stay away from these kinds of politically charged issues and focus on computers.
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It's probably not appropriate for Apple employees to be using the company's name for their own personal agenda's like this.

Apple as a brand should stay away from these kinds of politically charged issues and focus on computers.

You mean politically charged issues, such as trying to reach out to young people in hopes of preventing suicides? Gotcha.
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

yep.

They haven't really created a tablet but rather a tablet sized add on screen to a blackberry. chances are that few folks really want that particular tech, especially compared to those that would want a stand alone device

A 500-800$ accessory to the BlackBerry ( if you accidently happen to own one ). How cool is that?\
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At RIM, PlayBears.

You said "rim" and "bears" in the same sentence.

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One of the Apple employees in the video is Randy Ubillos, of Final Cut Pro fame. See http://rickandrandy.com/

And my friends tell me I overshare on Facebook! That's a cute site and they're a cute couple.

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Thirded

The It Gets Better Project is so inspiring and this contribution from Apple employees is very welcome and beautiful. Human beings can be so great and amidst all the mayhem out there it's good to be reminded of that.

Yes, it's good to see the human side of Apple. A video is much more personal than a tweet.

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It's probably not appropriate for Apple employees to be using the company's name for their own personal agenda's like this.

Apple as a brand should stay away from these kinds of politically charged issues and focus on computers.

I didn't know human rights were a "politically charged issue".

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You mean politically charged issues, such as trying to reach out to young people in hopes of preventing suicides? Gotcha.

Exactly. Great point, Xamian.
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Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post

It's probably not appropriate for Apple employees to be using the company's name for their own personal agenda's like this.

Apple as a brand should stay away from these kinds of politically charged issues and focus on computers.

I would have totally agreed with this statement if this case was really about something that could legitimately be considered 'politically charged', but equal rights for gay people seems so obvious that you'd have to be a real bigot if you are a politician and sincerely want to make this a 'politically charged issue'. It's in the same category as efforts against racism, or funding research for new medicine, it doesn't hurt anyone and it's good for society overall.

I know some people profoundly disagree with gay marriage, and that's their good right, but in this case I think these people should just accept the fact that the world will always be full of things they disagree with, and not make a politically charged issue out of it.
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"..offering a rare glimpse into the personal lives of employees of the notoriously secretive company."

I do not think Apple is notoriously secretive. 'Notorious' means famous for some bad quality or deed. When was it 'bad' for a company to want to keep its development plans confidential? 'Famously secretive' would be OK, though.

We can see how despite its best efforts, the opportunities for leaks during product development cycles are many and continuous, particularly from component suppliers. So instead of a sudden announcement that the iPhone now includes Near Field Communications (NFC) technology enabling electronic wallet transactions at retail tills (which would be a great product announcement) we get a dripfeed of speculation and rumour leading to media coverage which eventually starts to complain about what is taking Apple so long to get NFC, such that when it finally arrives, analysts lead off with "Apple has at long last caught up with NFC etc. etc."

I for one am glad Apple keeps its cards close to its chest because I can hardly contain myself thinking about how I must have the products that actually launch, let alone driving myself into an expectant frenzy about features that may never see the light of day!
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...I think these people should just accept the fact that the world will always be full of things they disagree with, and not make a politically charged issue out of it.

This reminds me of a quote I heard or read, somewhere. "Saying you don't approve of gay people is like saying you don't approve of rain."

Another beautiful video. Nothing like coming into work and tearing up at your desk. At least it's Friday and hardly anyone is around.
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