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Right on time for its scheduled launch in July, Apple on Friday seeded the Golden Master build of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion to developers.

The download is currently available on Apple's developer site. The term "Golden Master" means that the software is likely a final build that will be identical to the software that will be released to the general public, barring the discovery of any last-minute bugs or problems.

People familiar with the software said it is known as 11A511. Scheduled for launch sometime this month, Mac OS X Lion will only be available for upgraders through the Mac App Store for $29.

Apple has been steadily paving the way for the launch of Lion. Just last week, it released Mac OS X 10.6.8 for Snow Leopard, which packed enhancements in the Mac App Store in preparation for Lion.

The release of Lion may also be accompanied by a hardware refresh in Apple's Mac lineup. As first reported by AppleInsider, Apple is holding off on the release of new Mac hardware -- namely, a refreshed MacBook Air with Thunderbolt -- until Lion becomes publicly available.

Also overdue for a refresh is Apple's entry-level MacBook notebook. While there haven't been any specific rumors of a hardware refresh, this week AppleInsider noted that stock of the polycarbonate white MacBook has become extremely low.



Prior to Friday, the last major update to early Lion builds provided to developers came in the form of Preview 3, which was issued in mid-May. That build enabled the Reading List feature and adding a dedicated app for the Mission Control window management feature.

With Lion, Apple will bring a number of popular features from its highly successful iPad back to the Mac platform. New additions include full-screen applications, auto-save functionality, an iOS-style homescreen, and new multi-touch gestures.

For more on Lion, see AppleInsider's extensive Inside Mac OS X Lion series.
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Maybe the new Airs will be released Wednesday.
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I wonder what the release date will be. And I'm still curious about getting an OS without a DVD. I'm really looking forward to Lion. I switched from a mouse to a Magic Trackpad in anticipation of this release (and because my MX Revolution was finally dying).
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I wonder what the release date will be. And I'm still curious about getting an OS without a DVD. I'm really looking forward to Lion. I switched from a mouse to a Magic Trackpad in anticipation of this release (and because my MX Revolution was finally dying).

I hope you love the Mac Trackpad. I do. My biggest complaint is that it doesn't run on the Lenvovo-POS Windoze machine that I have to use at work!!
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I wonder what the release date will be. And I'm still curious about getting an OS without a DVD. I'm really looking forward to Lion. I switched from a mouse to a Magic Trackpad in anticipation of this release (and because my MX Revolution was finally dying).

It speeds up the time between GM and release by at least a couple weeks. If this is really the GM then it could come as early as next week.
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This lends credence to the rumours about the launch being next week then. I'm hoping that is indeed the case, I want me some OS X Lion-y goodness.

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Any developers out there who get a chance (or have had the chance) to check compatibility with Logic Pro 9? I (and many others I'm sure) would appreciate the heads up

I'm eagerly anticipating Lion but I use Logic daily and can't afford it being glitchy or not running!
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I hope you love the Mac Trackpad. I do.

The magic trackpad is great. I am never going to buy any rodents ever again.

As for the Lion release, it's already July first today. I say bring it on! I am ready to download it onto some of my machines.
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It speeds up the time between GM and release by at least a couple weeks. If this is really the GM then it could come as early as next week.

Especially since there is no physical media to deal with. As a software download, all they have to do is put it up there and say "Here it is!"
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Any developers out there who get a chance (or have had the chance) to check compatibility with Logic Pro 9? I (and many others I'm sure) would appreciate the heads up

I'm eagerly anticipating Lion but I use Logic daily and can't afford it being glitchy or not running!

There was a post on the logicprohelp forum where someone stated Lion nixes 32-bit plugin support. So you're high-and-dry if there's no 64-bit version for any of your plugs. That said, we'll only know for sure if that's true once Lion is released.
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There was a post on the logicprohelp forum where someone stated Lion nixes 32-bit plugin support. So you're high-and-dry if there's no 64-bit version for any of your plugs. That said, we'll only know for sure if that's true once Lion is released.

I use Logic and I won't be installing Lion on my main, heavy duty machines which I use for music. I will install it on my laptops though.
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I hope you love the Mac Trackpad. I do. My biggest complaint is that it doesn't run on the Lenvovo-POS Windoze machine that I have to use at work!!

As long as the Windows machine has Bluetooth, then the Magic Trackpad will work with it. It just will not have all the cool multi-touch gestures that it does when used with a Mac.

Apple even has Windows drivers for the Magic Trackpad on their support site.
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There was a post on the logicprohelp forum where someone stated Lion nixes 32-bit plugin support. So you're high-and-dry if there's no 64-bit version for any of your plugs. That said, we'll only know for sure if that's true once Lion is released.

That be a shame! I'll stick with SL if that's the case, as slick and glossy as Lion looks I can't go without 32bit plugins, the uptake to 64bit from a lot of companies is virtually non existant!
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I use Logic and I won't be installing Lion on my main, heavy duty machines which I use for music. I will install it on my laptops though.

Fair enough, I'll be doing the same I think, I'm not risking anything!

Do you think you'll install Logic on your portables and test it out when the time comes?
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There was a post on the logicprohelp forum where someone stated Lion nixes 32-bit plugin support. So you're high-and-dry if there's no 64-bit version for any of your plugs. That said, we'll only know for sure if that's true once Lion is released.

thats not true, i'm using 32bit plugins with no issue in functionality regardless of running logic in 32bit or 64bit mode.. however, running in 64bit mode introduces the 32bit bridge which kinda annoys me because you have to click on the space your plugin gui would normally be at for it to pop out. seems redundant for that step to be in place. but, oh well, at least it works.
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thats not true, i'm using 32bit plugins with no issue in functionality regardless of running logic in 32bit or 64bit mode.. however, running in 64bit mode introduces the 32bit bridge which kinda annoys me because you have to click on the space your plugin gui would normally be at for it to pop out. seems redundant for that step to be in place. but, oh well, at least it works.

Interesting, I think I'll probably wait to be on the safe side, I guess as everyone's set up is different it'd be wise to wait for a couple of updates to arrive after Lion is launched before upgrading.

If I installed and it didn't work for whatever reason I'd be soooo hacked off!
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Fair enough, I'll be doing the same I think, I'm not risking anything!

Do you think you'll install Logic on your portables and test it out when the time comes?

As soon as Lion is available, there will be tons of people installing it, and feedback will be available right away from Logic users, so everybody will know exactly what the deal is and if it's true that Lion makes 32 bit plugins unusable.
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It isn't a download through software update. I guess I'm going to need to re-install yet again!
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It isn't a download through software update. I guess I'm going to need to re-install yet again!

Or, you know, actually pay to be a developer.

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So, could someone with GM let us know if one can make a stand-alone installer that could be transferred to an external device/DVD? Or did Apple nix that since prior versions . . . .?
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I hope you love the Mac Trackpad. I do. My biggest complaint is that it doesn't run on the Lenvovo-POS Windoze machine that I have to use at work!!

Honestly, I hated it. I'm a desktop user who never really had much use for a laptop, so I had almost no trackpad experience... but it looks like Lion is going touch in a big way, so I figured I should give it a try. And I got used to it. And then, when it was time to either return it or stick with it, I switched back to my MX Revolution (world's best mouse in my opinion) to see if I missed using a mouse. Instantly, I realized just how much I'd already started taking the Magic Trackpad for granted. God, I love the thing - especially when paired with BetterTouchTool. I can't wait for Lion with the Magic Trackpad.
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Which looks more advanced?



or this?



I think Apple may have dropped the ball on this one.
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So, could someone with GM let us know if one can make a stand-alone installer that could be transferred to an external device/DVD? Or did Apple nix that since prior versions . . . .?
thanks

I second this. I too am hoping Apple has retained the option to burn a physical recovery media. Would be nice to be able to make it a USB flash drive too as it's much faster and more versatile.

But I have to imagine that if Apple is going to ship Macs with Lion, that they would include recovery media as they have always done in the event that the HD is replaced or reformatted such that a recovery partition is unusable.
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Which looks more advanced?



or this?



I think Apple may have dropped the ball on this one.

You jest, right?

The power, flexibility and ease of use of Lion is astounding. It takes only seconds to get used to the new multi touch gestures. There is far more to it than a few tiles.
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You jest, right?

The power, flexibility and ease of use of Lion is astounding. It takes only seconds to get used to the new multi touch gestures. There is far more to it than a few tiles.

I'm already running windows 8 on my iPad2, sort of. I have bing, which is of course by MS, and that app reminds me of windows 8 with all of the tiles.
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Which looks more advanced?
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I think Apple may have dropped the ball on this one.

From a gut reaction looking at the two side-by-side, it seems that Windows 8 tries to present all of your fragments of information in a big grid while Lion works to let you focus even better on one thing at a time. Unity vs. focus.

For me Windows, like Android, tries to be all things to all people and give me everything it can show me. It's like drinking from a fire hydrant. I can't get work done that way because it's too distracting: too fragmented. I get pulled from one thing to another without ever really engaging any of the tasks.

Lion, on the other hand, allows me to bring each task into even greater focus; thus enabling me to do a higher quality job in a quicker timeframe without losing any of the pieces in my task list.

Your preference will dictate what you purchase and use, and mine is Lion.
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W8 has the same gestures. It also has "live tiles" which are more useful than icons.

Most importantly, it finally moved past the desktop metaphor that is over 25 years old and Apple still uses.

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You jest, right?

The power, flexibility and ease of use of Lion is astounding. It takes only seconds to get used to the new multi touch gestures. There is far more to it than a few tiles.
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I'll wait for Golden Master #2

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Not even.

W8 has the same gestures. It also has "live tiles" which are more useful than icons.

Most importantly, it finally moved past the desktop metaphor that is over 25 years old and Apple still uses.

Haha. Windows 8 looks like it's made for really stupid and simple people. It just looks like a bunch of big widgets shaped like tiles on your desktop, providing real useful info such as the weather.

And how much is that crap going to cost? As we all know, Lion will be $29. Only a fool would shell out good money to downgrade their OS and get a couple of tiles on their desktop instead. We all know how much MS charges for their operating systems.
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What it's doing is giving you an customized overview of the various things in your life. It's sweet that I can see my next appointment without launching the calendar, new emails without launching mail, weather without launching weather, etc.

It's all very efficient... "glance and go"

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Haha. Windows 8 looks like it's made for really stupid and simple people. It just looks like a bunch of big widgets shaped like tiles on your desktop, providing real useful info such as the weather.

And how much is that crap going to cost? As we all know, Lion will be $29. Only a fool would shell out good money to downgrade their OS and get a couple of tiles on their desktop instead. We all know how much MS charges for their operating systems.
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Haha. Windows 8 looks like it's made for really stupid and simple people. It just looks like a bunch of big widgets shaped like tiles on your desktop, providing real useful info such as the weather.

And how much is that crap going to cost? As we all know, Lion will be $29. Only a fool would shell out good money to downgrade their OS and get a couple of tiles on their desktop instead. We all know how much MS charges for their operating systems.

The amount M$ charges for their OS is likely to change either. It is how they make their money, it is what they are known for. Apple is known for a complete solutions.

 

 

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What it's doing is giving you an customized overview of the various things in your life. It's sweet that I can see my next appointment without launching the calendar, new emails without launching mail, weather without launching weather, etc.

It's all very efficient... "glance and go"

To me, it's too much detailed information in a small area. I prefer apple's method in that I can select which information to focus on.

But this is what makes the world go'round.

 

 

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I think Apple may have dropped the ball on this one.

I dunno about dropping the ball, I think WP7 / Win 8 have an interesting look and I think that they may even mark the first time in MS' history when it has advanced the state of the art of UI design.

That doesn't mean that Apple failed though - Apple has always gone with a more minimal approach, MS has always gone with a more busy and colourful approach.

Win 8 is good in a very MS way, but I'm not sure I actually want that way of presenting data - especially as it may come with a cost in terms of battery life.
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to me, it's too much detailed information in a small area. I prefer apple's method in that i can select which information to focus on.

But this is what makes the world go'round.

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My IQ is 143 and I think it's awesome

Please don't do that.
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Wow, you could get a job as an Apple genius, although I'm sure you are also a bizillionaire.

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If we are a developer and we install the GM, will we have to worry about Lion on release? Or do we already have the release version?
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Which looks more advanced?



or this?



I think Apple may have dropped the ball on this one.

1) Lion is shipping next week. For all we know Windows 8 could be a year or two away.

2) The Windows 8 demo got a mixed reception at best. Essentially Windows 7 with a WP7 dashboard on top.

3) For what it's worth, I think Lion looks a lot better! Multitouch gestures that are ready to go, software and hardware. Tasteful aesthetics. Moves the user experience forward with auto save, Versions, Mission Control, etc.

4) Apple is rarely the first to do anything. MS beat Apple to the tablet party by 8 years, but that meant nothing obviously.
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My IQ is 143 and I think it's awesome

What it's doing is giving you an customized overview of the various things in your life. It's sweet that I can see my next appointment without launching the calendar, new emails without launching mail, weather without launching weather, etc.

It's all very efficient... "glance and go"

No it's not very efficient IMO. I think the key to efficiency is more akin to David Allen's GTD theory in which you spend a bit more effort to flesh out a task (due dates, context and more) and then you focus on dispatching tasks in a more serial fashion.

Windows 8's tiles invite information overload. If I've properly set up my calendar it will notify me of my next important scheduled even ..I don't need to constantly see it.

I think Apple's strategy with Lion and full screen is refreshing. Open up an app....let it take the "full" focus of your attention and then move on to something else. I think it's more in line with how humans process and dispatch tasks.
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If we are a developer and we install the GM, will we have to worry about Lion on release? Or do we already have the release version?

Odds are there will be some other releases before it gets officially released. They will be very minor updates. But I wouldn't worry about that as I'm sure software update will have you covered for future updates.

 

 

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