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post #81 of 133
New G4's:

PPC 970
Up to 4GB Ram
80,100,120GB HD's
SuperDrive All Models

when you start it, instead of a startup chime it will play a song...

obviously to the tune of the song
"can't touch this..."
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[quote]Originally posted by PUREPHAZED:
<strong>hmmmm.. it goes back to the cube ... if it where priced 999 ans 1299... then people would be happy... hmmmm maybe it should be resurected... comments anyone... people are fitting dual gigs and changing the grfx card... the minus they are adding small fans... you chose...

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it's a possibility. i am constantly tempted to buy a used cube, throw in a dual 867 (1 ghz is theoretically possible, but untested), used geforce3 (which i heard will fit), and a slot-loading superdrive (though where you buy them solo i have no idea), and you would have one HELL of a machine in an 8-in. cube.

the sucky part is that no one seems willing to part with their cubes... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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post #83 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by ast3r3x:
<strong>New G4's:

PPC 970
Up to 4GB Ram
80,100,120GB HD's
SuperDrive All Models

when you start it, instead of a startup chime it will play a song...

obviously to the tune of the song
"can't touch this..."</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm not going to even try to guess what the first 970 machines will look like, but I think it would be very cool if they had the ability to address &gt;4GB of RAM. It would be a good way to ring in the 64-bit era. Then Mr. Jobs could show off a new PowerMac with, say, 16 GB of RAM in it and doing a bake off where the 970 absolutely stomps the PC because the PC is busy virtual memory swapping.
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post #84 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by Programmer:
<strong>I'm not going to even try to guess what the first 970 machines will look like, but I think it would be very cool if they had the ability to address &gt;4GB of RAM. It would be a good way to ring in the 64-bit era. Then Mr. Jobs could show off a new PowerMac with, say, 16 GB of RAM in it and doing a bake off where the 970 absolutely stomps the PC because the PC is busy virtual memory swapping.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I saw 1GB and 2GB RAM modules already but I wonder how that could be mounted - 8 RAM slots? And even finding software that actually needs that much.. some A2 poster size Photoshop image @ 300 dpi maybe. Or a whole video loaded in RAM, though I wonder how lond loading that into RAM would take (given the speed of the harddrives).
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[quote]Originally posted by xype:
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I saw 1GB and 2GB RAM modules already but I wonder how that could be mounted - 8 RAM slots? And even finding software that actually needs that much.. some A2 poster size Photoshop image @ 300 dpi maybe. Or a whole video loaded in RAM, though I wonder how lond loading that into RAM would take (given the speed of the harddrives).</strong><hr></blockquote>

well i'd rather wait while a movie loads into ram, can you imagine how fast editing would be if u were working with things entirely in ram instead of editing it on the HD...say goodbye to spending lots of money on &gt;10000RPM HD's, no need
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[quote]Originally posted by ast3r3x:
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well i'd rather wait while a movie loads into ram, can you imagine how fast editing would be if u were working with things entirely in ram instead of editing it on the HD...say goodbye to spending lots of money on &gt;10000RPM HD's, no need</strong><hr></blockquote>


sounds a bit pricey, but the ends may justify the means.
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post #87 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by rok:
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it's a possibility. i am constantly tempted to buy a used cube, throw in a dual 867 (1 ghz is theoretically possible, but untested), used geforce3 (which i heard will fit), and a slot-loading superdrive (though where you buy them solo i have no idea), and you would have one HELL of a machine in an 8-in. cube.

the sucky part is that no one seems willing to part with their cubes... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I would sell you mine.
post #88 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by rok:
<strong>

it's a possibility. i am constantly tempted to buy a used cube, throw in a dual 867 (1 ghz is theoretically possible, but untested), used geforce3 (which i heard will fit), and a slot-loading superdrive (though where you buy them solo i have no idea), and you would have one HELL of a machine in an 8-in. cube.

the sucky part is that no one seems willing to part with their cubes... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Rok:

You'd probably enjoy the UK Macworld 2003 predictions thread, where Barto talks up modular add-ons to towers, and I ran with that suggestion in a more, um, cubist direction....

post #89 of 133
yes an 8in all in wonder superfast intel p4 toasting dual 970 cube... with get this... the new nvidia 4 128 togo

.... hmmm i like it....
and 2 800 firewire ports ... thats a great machine...

anyways dreams are nice but i will settle with a powerbook and an xserve in the closet to render everything...

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post #90 of 133
Dual's are inevitable in the Powerbook line because it must use multiple CPU's (even 970's) to compete with Intel and AMD offerings.

Apple has the opportunity to win the "Mhz Wars" decisively and for the foreseeable future by using multiple processors to gain whatever speed is needed to stay on top.
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post #91 of 133
BTW, is there any link to that interview.
Actually, as far as i understand it's just picking up the pieces. Apple is slashed in the promarket. Anything new will be DOA.

just my 2 cents
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post #92 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>... but in a couple of years it will be a different game.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Yeah, you're definitly right about that. In a couple of years it will be a different game, a game without apple. A lost game anyway. Sorry I#m pessim., but thats the bare true in that whole story.
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post #93 of 133
You're wrong. If Apple can switch to a new processor, such as the 970, this year, they will remain more than competitive. OS X has already proved that a very large number of IT professionals are taking Apple very, very seriously on the software side of things. If hardware comes together, then you can look forward to Linuxheads switching over in droves.

Even if they aren't ready to get away from the G4 quite yet, there are a HUGE number of small graphic design houses, color separation houses, independent graphic artists and such who will stick with Apple even if they're stuck with the G4 forever. Not to mention the coup Apple has pulled in Hollywood thanks to FCP. Apple has all of the resources (including the cash to witstand years of losses) to ride out the storm.
post #94 of 133
i was at MWSF on tuesday and was blown away!
first of all the new powerbooks are awesome,especially the 12".
steve blew everyone away at the keynote,i havent seen an audience THAT hyped in a LONG time.
many of the detractors of apple on these boards were either silenced or raved about the product introductions.
i was blown away by "imovie" in particular,and "safari" seems to be enjoying massive acceptance,judging by apples downloads.
and.........
EVERY RUMOUR SITE WAS DEAD WRONG!!! about what this macworld would be all about.
way to go steve.
seems like everyone is fixated on the 970 and with good reason.
we will see.
remember...steve likes surprises.
the moscone center was PACKED!
not only with people,but with exhibitors!!!
last year the exhibitors and attendees were noticable lower than this year.
did anyone notice that TIVO will get RENDEVOUS?
hmmm..........
this is gonna be one exciting year.
remember when the ipod came out?
no one thought it would be as popular as it is now.
who knew?
i think what would be a challenging and very fruitful thing for apple to do is come up with a "business lifestyle" strategy,something similar to it digital hub strategy,but for business.
maybe it could deal with communication,business presentations(KEYNOTE),project management,ect.....
no one is doing this for the business world and i think apple could do it.
just a thought that i had.
anyways...
its a new year and let the rumours begin!!!!
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post #95 of 133
Over on Ars, MrNSX (a genuine ATi insider) wrote:

2003 is going to be a year that no computer user is going to forget.

Then:

What I'm talking about has nothing to do with ATI. Sure Apple is doing some very interesting stuff on the graphics front going forward, BUT it's not something that makes me fall off my chair when I hear about it.

Anyhow, this isn't anything that's been revealed to ATI. Apple is very secretive, even with their partners. Our company is not aware of Apple's future CPU plans, we haven't seen any roadmaps, and we most certainly don't have any PPC 970 powered Mac's or anything of the sort. As far as ATI is aware, Apple is continuing with the existing CPU family.

Having said all that, I can tell you that the battlefront will be one helluva interesting place this coming year -- for more than one reason! This is my last post on this, sorry. I can't risk inadvertantly saying anything.


And then:

I'm telling you what has officially been disclosed to ATI. It doesn't mean that Apple is not developing a PPC970 based machine. Maybe it's much further down the road, so they haven't had the need to tell us yet. Maybe it's all nVidia based, so we won't find out til it ships etc.

If a PPC970 based machine IS under development, it's obviously very secretive and we wouldn't find out about it until absolutely necessary.

And finally:

No, this information does not come through ATI in any way, shape or form. Not directly from Apple or from any of our other OEMs.

I'm not under NDA with regards to this since nothing has been disclosed to ATI yet. However given our close relationship with Apple, I can't divulge any details on what I believe to be their future plans, NDA or not.

Sorry, my comments may have sent people off on a wild goose chase. I'm just going to reiterate that it's going to be a very important year.


That should give you all plenty to chew on....



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post #96 of 133
Mostly gristle, those posts said absolutely nothing.

"2003 is going to be huge but not due to ATI."

Well thank you very much!

Yeesh!

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[quote]Originally posted by sCreeD:
<strong>Mostly gristle, those posts said absolutely nothing.

"2003 is going to be huge but not due to ATI."

Well thank you very much!
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Well, you know, MrNSX likes his job. I can't say that I blame him. It's much harder to buy an NSX if you don't have one.

I'm glad he said what he did, personally. Now I'm really looking forward to this year. Speculators, start your engines!
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post #98 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by Aphelion:
<strong>Dual's are inevitable in the Powerbook line because it must use multiple CPU's (even 970's) to compete with Intel and AMD offerings.

Apple has the opportunity to win the "Mhz Wars" decisively and for the foreseeable future by using multiple processors to gain whatever speed is needed to stay on top.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I doubt we will see duals in the laptops. We might see dual core's when IBM releases the 980, and if Apple does indead go with IBM's chips for the "long haul", dual processors just take up too much space and power.
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Why does everyone always say apple will be out of it in a few years? Sheesh people have been saying that for years. Apple and Dell are the only 2 profitable computer makers there are right now. A lot of small takers are going to go out of business. With everything apple owns now, Shake, all those audio apps, I think now is one of the coolest times to be an apple users. I also think the PC switcher margin is actually very high, its just that people right now are in a slump in actual PC sales. I do so much editing, and graphic work and by a big margin my mac is faster it seems than a PC. Also try getting anything printed these days , 75% newspapers, and around 60% of magazines are mac only, you will have a hard time sending a PC ad in for ad submission. As soon as the market picks up which it will things are going to be great. Apple is right on about the majority of general users will be laptop sales, only pro systems will be desktop system I bet here in a year, year and a half. The only people who will buy desktops are the people in the sub 1000 demo, and tho you think that demo may be buying loads of computers. From what I hear from Neilson and other reports thru mrkting, the actual margin on all PC sales is generally above 1600. You'd think people just want a PC(crap) to check e-mail but really they want a whole lot more. Just wait you'll see
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[quote]Originally posted by kraig911:
<strong>Why does everyone always say apple will be out of it in a few years?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh probably because in the last 10-15 years Apple's world-wide market share has gone from about 10% to less than 3%.

Of course, that overlooks the fact that the global computer market grew at a tremendous rate over that same period. But there is no denying that Apple has seen better days.

That's not to say that they won't be able to turn around the current trend. I remember the bump they got from the PPC604 when it was introduced. You saw a definite uptick in Mac sales thanks to the 604's speed advantage over the Pentium. Problem was, it didn't last because they lost the advantage again to faster clocked Pentiums.
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post #101 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by Algol:
<strong>Damn I wanted to watch that and forgot to do it! Shit!</strong><hr></blockquote>
what channal was this one can someone put it on and when was it. can sme one put it on there computer and post it or let us down load it.
post #102 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by geekmeat:
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and.........
EVERY RUMOUR SITE WAS DEAD WRONG!!! </strong><hr></blockquote>

um, actually, check your facts. aside from the powerbooks (which yes, were big), thinksecret was about 75-80% correct on those things they felt confident enough in posting. (i say "about" because how do you score something they felt 75% sure would happen). and they were 100% correct on macworld new york in july.

i'd say they're "the gold standard" right now, if there is such a thing in the rumor mill market.
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post #103 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by rok:
<strong>thinksecret was about 75-80% correct on those things they felt confident enough in posting. (i say "about" because how do you score something they felt 75% sure would happen). and they were 100% correct on macworld new york in july.
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BFD. Macrumors.com was the only one predicting the 12" AND 17" Powerbook updates. Granted, it was a day before the show, but they learned it first. Think Secret predicts the obvious anyway.
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[quote]Originally posted by Rhumgod:
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BFD. Macrumors.com was the only one predicting the 12" AND 17" Powerbook updates. Granted, it was a day before the show, but they learned it first. Think Secret predicts the obvious anyway.</strong><hr></blockquote>

oh yeah, and we're ones to talk, hanging around what USED to be the gold standard in rumor mongering, yet now is relegated to "ibook prices will be slashed" news from november. i'll give macrumors credit for getting the most incredible thing right, but you can't just write off think secret because their predictions weren't as flashy. an average of about 90% accuracy over two trade shows is pretty darned good in today's "dead men tell no tales" philosophy from apple.

i'd rather it be accurate than spymac "iwalk" variety.

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post #105 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by rok:
<strong>i'd rather it be accurate than spymac "iwalk" variety.

[ 01-13-2003: Message edited by: rok ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

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I totally agree...spymac is useless...

I am not much of a rumor follower anyway; just pop in once in a while to see what kinds of things moki, etc are saying.

If there's news, we'll hear about it - we all know 970s are coming...it's just a question of time, and of course the big question here now, is when?

Like I said before I am figuring a Feb/March Apple in-house event with shipping soon after. It's a hunch based on industry news and tech rollouts in recent history. :cool:
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post #106 of 133
The bigger question is, "How fast?"


Some of you may be too young to remember The Great Speed Dump Apple pulled with the G4. It was a bad bad time and IMO Apple never fully recovered.

Will the 970 compete with the P4, crush the P4 or will dual PowerMacs still be required?
post #107 of 133
From what we've been hearing it should do well againgst the p4 and scale well enough to kick it in the head relatively soon. This is significant as we haven't seen great jumps in a short amount of time.
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post #108 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by Amorph:

Well, you know, MrNSX likes his job. I can't say that I blame him. It's much harder to buy an NSX if you don't have one.

I'm glad he said what he did, personally. Now I'm really looking forward to this year. Speculators, start your engines!<hr></blockquote>

Gateway's <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GTW&d=c&t=2y&l=on&z=b&q=l" target="_blank">market cap</a> is now below $1 billion. That would be a hell of a way to make Marklar happen, AND quadruple the Apple Store retail presence, in one fell swoop.

HEY... maybe if Disney bought Apple and Gateway at the same time, and then merged with Sony.... hmmmm...
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post #109 of 133
Steve said that 2003 would be a big year but do you really think apple would "bust it's nut" this early and release the 970 in feb/march/april [despite the fact that we, and more importantly I need it (I got a computer as a present, just waiting to pick it out )]? My gut tells me that since I want one, it will take a while before it's released; sorry for ruining it for all of you .

I'm thinking that uselessly speedbumped towers with all the goodies we saw at MWSF will be released and it will be atleast 6 more months before we get something fun.

As for the design of the 970's enclosure, I propose a Gigantic Ass with the word "Motorola" printed at the top and an 'Apple' brand boot shoved halfway up it <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

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post #110 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by geekmeat:
<strong>
i think what would be a challenging and very fruitful thing for apple to do is come up with a "business lifestyle" strategy,something similar to it digital hub strategy,but for business.
maybe it could deal with communication,business presentations(KEYNOTE),project management,ect.....
no one is doing this for the business world and i think apple could do it.
just a thought that i had.
anyways...
its a new year and let the rumours begin!!!!
peace. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Indeed. I would love to see business applications from apple to rival project, visio, and a database that is seamlessly compatible with access.

 

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post #111 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>From what we've been hearing it should do well againgst the p4 and scale well enough to kick it in the head relatively soon. This is significant as we haven't seen great jumps in a short amount of time.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yea and the G4 was supposed to ship at 500MHz <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by Scott:
<strong>Yea and the G4 was supposed to ship at 500MHz <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't think IBM has as many problems manufacturing their chips as Motorola has. Besides, they just finished a new fab in East Fishkill, so I don't see a problem here.
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I aint holdin' my breath. BTW don't cut in front of me in line when these things ship!
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[quote]Originally posted by Scott:
<strong>I aint holdin' my breath. BTW don't cut in front of me in line when these things ship!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I guess Austria will only get them a few weeks after the rest of the world. Ah they joy of living in an unimportant market! Unless I go and buy it in Munich..
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[quote]Originally posted by Scott:
<strong>I aint holdin' my breath. BTW don't cut in front of me in line when these things ship!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I guess Austria will only get them a few weeks after the rest of the world. Ah they joy of living in an unimportant market! Unless I go and buy it in Munich..
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[quote]Originally posted by Dank:
<strong>Steve said that 2003 would be a big year but do you really think apple would "bust it's nut" this early and release the 970 in feb/march/april [despite the fact that we, and more importantly I need it (I got a computer as a present, just waiting to pick it out )]? My gut tells me that since I want one, it will take a while before it's released; sorry for ruining it for all of you .

I'm thinking that uselessly speedbumped towers with all the goodies we saw at MWSF will be released and it will be atleast 6 more months before we get something fun.

As for the design of the 970's enclosure, I propose a Gigantic Ass with the word "Motorola" printed at the top and an 'Apple' brand boot shoved halfway up it <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

Dank</strong><hr></blockquote>

It could be that Apple is putting off a speed boost to their desktop line-up to avoid building up inventory on a model that they know will not sell well to save money. Yes they will loose some sales in the short term, but if that is offset by a sugnifigant cost savings in ramping up production on a new model then it would be a net gain for Apple. This would be a very good plan if they really are 1-2 months away from anouncing the 970 models and 2-3 months away from shipping them. This also might be a good move if the first 970 that Apple gets are less than the 1.8 Ghz top end that IBM said that they will get on the .13 process. At the moment a 1.5-1.6 Ghz would be a good boost in speed (yes I realize that the 970 will be faster than the G4 mhz for mhz, but the numbers do matter in marketing). In 6 months a jump from 1.6-1.8 in moving to the 970 will appear as a less sugnificant improvement.
post #117 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by Amorph:
<strong>Speculators, start your engines!</strong><hr></blockquote>
If PPC970 doesn't impress MrNSX, G4 @ 1.4GHz wouldn't either. He mentions graphics front as if to hint that an expected breakthrough is not related to it. If so, then what the hell is it? Internet-enabled watches? A QuickTime-equipped cell phone?
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[quote]Originally posted by costique:
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Where is Kormac? Where is Codename? Have they tested it already?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Kormac gave the specs for the C2 iMacs (which was a long time ago) after that he was NEVER right again.

I don't even remember a single thing that Codename said so I'm pretty sure he knew squat as well.
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post #119 of 133
[quote]Originally posted by geekmeat:
<strong>i was at MWSF on tuesday and was blown away!
first of all the new powerbooks are awesome,especially the 12".
steve blew everyone away at the keynote,i havent seen an audience THAT hyped in a LONG time.
many of the detractors of apple on these boards were either silenced or raved about the product introductions.
i was blown away by "imovie" in particular,and "safari" seems to be enjoying massive acceptance,judging by apples downloads.
and.........
EVERY RUMOUR SITE WAS DEAD WRONG!!! about what this macworld would be all about.
way to go steve.
seems like everyone is fixated on the 970 and with good reason.
we will see.
remember...steve likes surprises.
the moscone center was PACKED!
not only with people,but with exhibitors!!!
last year the exhibitors and attendees were noticable lower than this year.
did anyone notice that TIVO will get RENDEVOUS?
hmmm..........
this is gonna be one exciting year.
remember when the ipod came out?
no one thought it would be as popular as it is now.
who knew?
i think what would be a challenging and very fruitful thing for apple to do is come up with a "business lifestyle" strategy,something similar to it digital hub strategy,but for business.
maybe it could deal with communication,business presentations(KEYNOTE),project management,ect.....
no one is doing this for the business world and i think apple could do it.
just a thought that i had.
anyways...
its a new year and let the rumours begin!!!!
peace. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
OMG.. That's what I call obsessive use of the return key! :eek:
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"Oh probably because in the last 10-15 years Apple's world-wide market share has gone from about 10% to less than 3%."

Sliding down faster than they can climp up it...

The lack of world beating cpu hasn't helped. However, indications are that this will change.

There's got to be alot of retension in the 'power'Mac market. People who switched to x86 and would like a decent POWER Mac to come back to? (count me in...) Publishing industry. Graphics pros with their 'it'll do until the G5' 'power'Mac. People waiting for the G5 on principle (hi Motorola...) If Apple can get 170 K 'power'Mac sales from a mediocre G4 update, I'll speculate half a million POWERMac sales if Apple go 970. I'm one of those customers.

Lemon Bon Bon

Bout time Apple started an 'XP' rating. If the 970 is twice a G4 performer... At 1.8 gig? That makes the 970 a 3.6 'gig' G4. (Hey, AMD pegged their Athlon to an Intel...it seemed to 'kinda work' for them...) Pull that in dual formations and Steve Jobs can have number orgy. Better that than talking about flops? Do you want your cpu to be known as a 'flop'? (Which, over time, the G4 has become...)

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