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post #1 of 75
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...waiting for the combo...

The 10.4.6 Update is recommended for all users and includes general operating system fixes, as well as specific fixes for the following applications and technologies:

- login and authentication in a variety of network environments
- file access and byte range locking with AFP file sharing
- network access when using proxy server automatic configuration files
- connecting to Cisco VPN servers using IP/Sec
- using Bluetooth wireless devices
- searching iWork '06 and Microsoft Office documents with Spotlight
- saving Word documents automatically when using a network home directory
- creating Automator workflows for iPhoto 6
- synchronizing contacts and calendars to .Mac and mobile phones
- mounting and unmounting iDisk volumes
- compatibility with third party applications and devices
- previous standalone security updates
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post #2 of 75
clap clap, well done for noticing. (no sarcasm)

i thought it was ment to be 100mb +

seems as if appleinsider/thinksecret is loosing its touch
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Originally posted by crampy20
clap clap, well done for noticing. (no sarcasm)

i thought it was ment to be 100mb +

seems as if appleinsider/thinksecret is loosing its touch

The download size is dependent on various factors now though - if you have all of the security updates it will be smaller I believe, and it is also system dependent. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but that could account for some of the difference. I'm downloading the 45Mb now.
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Originally posted by crampy20
clap clap, well done for noticing. (no sarcasm)

i thought it was ment to be 100mb +

seems as if appleinsider/thinksecret is loosing its touch

'Losing' their touch right?
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Originally posted by G_Warren
'Losing' their touch right?

O.O

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post #6 of 75
Oooo, iSync now syncs calendar events up to a year in advance, that always used to bug me. I don't remember an update the required two restarts, but maybe I wasn't paying attention before.

Incidentally, we often get updates around releases. Can anyone who knows more about these things than me see if there are any hidden hints about future hardware?
post #7 of 75
Curious. Has anybody else noticed this on Apple's About 10.4.6 page?
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With the Mac OS X 10.4.6 system software update, PowerPC-based Macs will restart twice, instead of once, after the initial installation.

Hmm, do I smell a bundled firmware update?
What forthcoming Apple goodies would this include support for?

I ask you all: 30th birthday anticipation, RDF-induced paranoia, or just healthy suspicion?

About to restart - ahem, twice - right now...


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post #8 of 75
Apple on Monday released Mac OS X 10.4.6, an update to its Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" operating system that is recommended for all users.

The release (Intel (163MB), PowerPC (65MB), Server (92MB)) includes general operating system fixes, as well as improvements while using Bluetooth wireless devices, searching iWork '06 and Microsoft Office documents with Spotlight, and creating Automator workflows for iPhoto 6.

It also offers fixes for saving Word documents automatically when using a network home directory, synchronizing contacts and calendars to .Mac and mobile phones, and mounting and unmounting iDisk volumes.

Other enhancements in Mac OS X 10.4.6 target file access and byte range locking with AFP file sharing, login and authentication, connecting to Cisco VPN servers using IP/Sec, and network access when using proxy server automatic configuration files

The 45MB update is available from Apple's Web site or through the Mac OS X Software update mechanism. Additional details of the release are also published in a knowledge base article on the company's site.
post #9 of 75
firmware upadte... ohh goodies on the horizon..

the first time i had a computer screw up was becuase of firmware, i hope this doesnt screw my comp up.
post #10 of 75
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- EXIF data is now exported with TIFF images in Aperture.

- Aperture will no longer unexpectedly quit when exporting a file with keywords that contain twelve or more Cyrillic characters.

Yippee, Aperture fixes! I'll take what I can get until 1.1


Still waiting for the combo.

Update: Combo Ho! (off the main Support Download page).
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post #11 of 75
On my PowerPC the update was 45.3 MB. On an Intel Mac Mini it was 160+ MB. Obviously a good portion of the update was Intel/Rosetta realted.
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Originally posted by crampy20
firmware upadte... ohh goodies on the horizon..

Sounds good to me.
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Sounds good to me.


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I smell Fresh Fruit on Tuesday. ;P

I can smell it too! (Swawshank) I hope, I hope.......
"Fresh fish, fresh fish, fresh fruit, fresh fruit, fresh fruit.....
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post #15 of 75
I just installed the update, and my iBook did in fact restart twice. I was a bit concerned but all came up fine, once again, allowing me to breath easy .
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post #16 of 75
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Hm, fresh fruit.
Hope they bring a bunch.
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post #17 of 75
Any word on what devices (if any) have been added to the list of those officially compatible with iSync? I'm getting a Sony-Ericsson W600i tomorrow, and I'd be thrilled if it was officially supported now.
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Has anyone noticed if any of the MacBook Pro problems have been solved with this update, specifically the CPU whirring?

Thanks.
Jordan
post #19 of 75
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Originally posted by MrSin
I just installed the update, and my iBook did in fact restart twice. I was a bit concerned but all came up fine, once again, allowing me to breath easy .

My iMac restarted twice also ... made me almost freak out, cause it took a long time to start up the first time, but I restarted again after it wa sup and running and all's well. They could very well have bundled in a firmware update. They also seemed to emphasize the iSync update.

ALSO!!!!

Try doing a permissions repair ... disk utility no longer fills the repair screen with 3 pages of Widget and DVD changes!!! My permissions repair looks like this:

Repairing permissions for Macintosh HD
Determining correct file permissions.

Permissions repair complete
The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume

YAY!!!!

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MacBook Pro 15" 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 8GB DDR3 SDRAM, 750GB HDD
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post #20 of 75
My iMac G5 (PowerPC) restarted twice after update.

My MacBook Pro (Intel Core Duo) restarted once after update.

Both installed without issue using software update.
post #21 of 75
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Originally posted by JoGro123
Has anyone noticed if any of the MacBook Pro problems have been solved with this update, specifically the CPU whirring?

Thanks.
Jordan

what CPU whirring? I don't hear anything. My MBP so far has been incredibly quiet.

downloading now, 108MB
post #22 of 75
There has been an issue that has now been confirmed (it's been reported on many sites including Apple's support discussion) dealing with a whirring noise coming from the CPU (upper left of the computer). It's very small and only evident when the CPUs are idling.
post #23 of 75
iSync 2.2 finally supports Nokia's Series 40 phones (e.g., 6230)! Just about all the latest Motorola and Sony Ericsson phones (e.g., W600i) are supported as well.
post #24 of 75
Perhaps the double restart has to do with Bluetooth firmware, since some Bluetooth improvements are mentioned. VERY happy about the nice, silent permissions repair. And cautiously optimistic about possible new goodies on the horizon.
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Originally posted by JoGro123
There has been an issue that has now been confirmed (it's been reported on many sites including Apple's support discussion) dealing with a whirring noise coming from the CPU (upper left of the computer). It's very small and only evident when the CPUs are idling.

Well I just installed the update (with 1 restart as well) and now that you mention it, I do hear a noise in the upper left of the computer. But it's hard for me to say if its the whirring that you're talking about, its not incredibly noticeable.
post #26 of 75
108mb for my 1.83 iMac!
I'm not sure where this 163mb stuff is coming from!
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post #27 of 75
I really don't recommend doing this until a couple days have passed, and the news on Macfixit.com, and Macintouch.com get good feedback. most updates break something else. Let someone else be the test subject.

But, when you do, don't forget to verify your drive first, and to fix it if required. Apple does a disservice by not requiring that be done before Software Update installs the software. Particularly as they recommend doing that themselves.

Also, remember that the combined update (which WILL be larger than 100MB) is more reliable that the incremental ones. So, if you have problems after installation and pref fix, go to the site and download that, and do it again (including verifying the HD).
post #28 of 75
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Originally posted by Ireland
108mb for my 1.83 iMac!
I'm not sure where this 163mb stuff is coming from!

163mb is the size of the Intel incremental version of the update

Mac OS X Server 10.4.6 Combo [182MB]
Mac OS X Server 10.4.6 [92MB]
Mac OS X 10.4.6 for Intel [163MB]
Mac OS X 10.4.6 for PPC [65MB]
Mac OS X 10.4.6 Combo for PPC [140MB]
Mac OS X 10.4.6 Combo for Intel [191MB]
post #29 of 75
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But, when you do, don't forget to verify your drive first, and to fix it if required. Apple does a disservice by not requiring that be done before Software Update installs the software. Particularly as they recommend doing that themselves.

Yeah seriously. Users are idiots. Hell sometimes I forget.

Software Update should just do it, in the background, and just say that's what it's doing down in the comments place. If there is an error it should bring up a dialogue saying what it is, the same one Disk Utility would give. If minor permissions were just repaired and the drive is okay, it should just proceed with updates. Actually it just occurred to me that I was just discussing permissions, which SU should also do automatically. However, you need to Repair. Perhaps they'll figure out a way around that, hopefully. So this stuff can all just be done automatically. That's where I see OS X moving. Macs compared to PCs are so maintenence free. They are the Toyotas of computers, to make a horrible car analogy.
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post #30 of 75
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Originally posted by JoGro123
It's very small and only evident when the CPUs are idling.

Wrong and wrong.

ongoing Macintouch reports on faulty MBPs
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Originally posted by Aquatic
Yeah seriously. Users are idiots. Hell sometimes I forget.

Software Update should just do it, in the background, and just say that's what it's doing down in the comments place. If there is an error it should bring up a dialogue saying what it is, the same one Disk Utility would give. If minor permissions were just repaired and the drive is okay, it should just proceed with updates. Actually it just occurred to me that I was just discussing permissions, which SU should also do automatically. However, you need to Repair. Perhaps they'll figure out a way around that, hopefully. So this stuff can all just be done automatically. That's where I see OS X moving. Macs compared to PCs are so maintenence free. They are the Toyotas of computers, to make a horrible car analogy.

I would love it if Apple did that. But, you can't fix a drive while it's being used. Too bad. Then the whole thing could be taken care of.

Unix is different that System 9 and earlier. There are just some things that can't be done while it's running. just getting verification to work was a milestone.

But, yes, they should at least do that. I see all the guys here who have already used update to install the incremental version. Even after all the years it's been said that that's NOT the preferred way to do it. I wonder how many of them did check or fix their drive first.

I know that in my usergroup, I constantly have to remind people of this.
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Originally posted by wilco
Wrong and wrong.

ongoing Macintouch reports on faulty MBPs

First off, watch the attitude, this is a productive forum. Second off, how am I wrong. Are you using his post to qualify that? I read it and am confused as to how it is "wrong"? I have heard and experienced various issues with the MacBook Pro. I am not a developer so I am not claiming to have the technical diagnosis but I CAN tell you what I have noticed, read and deduced.

1. Noise and distortion from the LCD - this has been confirmed. It is an issue with the display invertor. Apple has since either fixed or reduced this issue in more recent productions. Any one experiencing this issue can have it fixed/replaced.

2. Noise from the right speaker - I don't have this issue and I have only heard of one or two complaining of it. For now, I would file this under "potential"

3. Airport noise / connectivity issue - this has also been confirmed and can be fixed with the new 10.4.6 update and/or bringing the MacBook Pro in to Apple.

4. Finally, the last issue I have heard about is the one my MacBook Pro suffers from. This is a noise originating from the left speaker grille. Apple has now cofirmed it as an issue. Spending time at the Apple discussion board, I learned this is a "CPU whine" resulting from the Intel idling. Performing a heavy activity or running PhotoBooth (unsure exactly why) can quiet the sound temporarily. It's possible the 10.4.6 update may have fixed this, I am unsure.
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Originally posted by melgross
But, when you do, don't forget to verify your drive first, and to fix it if required. Apple does a disservice by not requiring that be done before Software Update installs the software. Particularly as they recommend doing that themselves.

You raise a good point, but at least Super Duper offers to repair permissions before backup, and backing up before installing something that changes the system is a good thing.
post #34 of 75
I believe the double-restart is due to a firmware security update. It prevents booting in to single user mode when there's a firmware password.

Actually, I just read this and it looks like the security issue was for Intel Macs. So why they get a single reboot yet us PowerPC users get a dual reboot is anyone's guess.
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You raise a good point, but at least Super Duper offers to repair permissions before backup, and backing up before installing something that changes the system is a good thing.

Backing up is always a good thing. I just find that I can convince people do do the other actions, but getting them to back up?
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Originally posted by Xool
I believe the double-restart is due to a firmware security update. It prevents booting in to single user mode when there's a firmware password.

Actually, I just read this and it looks like the security issue was for Intel Macs. So why they get a single reboot yet us PowerPC users get a dual reboot is anyone's guess.

Possibly the difference between EFI and Open Firmware.
post #37 of 75
Daring Fireball seems to insist permission repair is unnecessary during system updates.

Wow I'm not Caucasian and don't get to see white asses to often.

Whoa do they look different.
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Originally posted by TenoBell
Daring Fireball seems to insist permission repair is unnecessary during system updates.

I read that too, and I disagree with him. I've worked with and managed tons of Macs, and I can think of numerous times when repairing permissions corrected issues I was having. It's not like repairing permissions could do anything wrong, it only corrects things.
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Originally posted by TenoBell
Daring Fireball seems to insist permission repair is unnecessary during system updates.

That's probably true before running SU, unless it has any sort of dependency on permissions that might cause it to take different actions. All SU seems to care about is having administrative access before it goes on its merry way installing/updating regardless of any preexisting permissions.

Repairing permissions after SU runs might correct issues that either preexisted or were caused by SU itself.
post #40 of 75
After this update my Mac mini no longer has a serial number in software!

I clicked on About this Mac and twice on version number and it just displays the words Serial Number nothing else. Also opened system profiler and the serial number is absent there as well! Weird





Edit: Typo - Thanks Graeme
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