Originally Posted by Walter Slocombe
WOW our usage and needs must be really different!
seriously? my iTunes alone takes up 30 GB so where do I put my work?
For those that need the space you simply use the expansion bay. Nothing difficult about that. I'm not saying that 32 GB is the nuts for everybody, but the trade off for a platform like the Mini is excellent. The annal savings in electricity would pay for a alternative storage device.
built in Video decode would be great. because of 4 (see below)
I'm not sure what 4 has to do with it. Video comes from all sorts of places including the web and more than a few handheld cameras. In any event you do have to realize tat many of us simply aren't into movie collections.
so how do I rip movies to playback on my Apple TV? where do I put the DVD? why do I need better video decode?
Err, you will have to use your imagination with that DVD. Seriously you are taking a very self centered point of view here, how many people do you think really spend that much time looking t DVD's on their PC. As to software and updates, both Linux and Apple's MAC OS/X have demonstrated that online updates work. New software could be shipped on USB ROMS if that is a problem.
In any event I can see the need for a drive in some situations. The disadvantageous are such though that I suspect that Apple would be far better off offering optical drives as an add on.
So make it smaller via flash memory, but then make it bigger again with big empty space that few would use because "most people don't upgrade"
Old Apple users of the past might not have upgraded but that certainly isn't the case any more. RAM is upgrade regularly by Apple users. Secondary storage is a close second. The difference here is that this approach allows for an internal upgrade.
not sure what chipset needs to go in the mini in order to address more than 4GB but it seems like overkill for a low end machine? awesome though if it was possible, but why limit ourselves to 2GB soldered? I think you are kidding yourself about soldered in RAM ever get a dry solder joint? a reall messy bitch to discover and put right I imagine, not good from a servicing point of view either, so thats going against the upgradability you seem to be talking about.
2GB is about right for a machine these days. Now I'm not saying that one couldn't get by with 1GB but it is pretty clear that that is now considered bargain basement territory. The thing is 2 GB is enough to make a huge number of people happy. Having the RAM soldered in doesn't mean that expansion capabilities are dismissed. Indeed Apple has already demonstrated the feasibility of soldered in RAM in their products.
In any event your allusions to the issues with bad solder joints is meaningless. If you put the RAM in a socket you still have solder joints on top of which you have the card edge connector joints. A cold solder joint is an issue but let me tell you that connectors provide plenty of problems on their own.
In any event soldered in RAM and Flash provide Apple with the ability to produce a very reliable computer board.
cool but a lack of low power wouldn't stop me buying one
Well the issue I have is that I'm tired of paying high prices for electricity. One of the best approaches for that issue is to reduce your power usage as much as possible. Energy efficiency will become a major selling point n the near future as energy prices sky rocket.
Now I do keep the PC on 24/7 and one could argue just shut it off. There are good reasons to keep it on though, the goal is to minimize the cost to myself when doing so.
Have you got a mini? are you in a dodgy supply area? I've got a mini and because of a local housing development have experienced a lot of power dips (enough to knock off my monitor and TV among other things) and the mini just keeps on going so there must be a fair sized cap in the power supply already, but I agree with your point ALL computer powersuppliers should be able to cope with some minimum standard of interuption, or they can't be sold as fit for purpose.
Dodgy? Well maybe not that bad but a few glitches that I know for sure causes crashes. Again some would say a UPS is in order but I tend to agree with you if a simple power glitch cycles your computer then the power supply isn't suitable.
By the way this isn't an Apple PC.
In my experience though the mini knocks me out in this regard.
Glad to hear this.
Sorry to be negative but I guess it just highlights the different needs of users, and shows how difficult it is to get right a one size fits all computer.
Yeah I actually have several computer around the house. The one that is on all the time just needs to be cost effective as is reasonably possible.
On the other hand the computer I was describing above would be even more useful to a large number of people with different needs. I'm actually providing for the expansion of secondary store for example. A reliable computer means a computer that can be used in more places than just the desktop. A computer with 100% soldered in parts would be just the nuts in an RV or truck. Low power is green but even more so means it would run in a cabin in the woods.
Almost everyone seems to think that a 3.5" drive would be a great addition, would cut costs and make upgrading the HD SO much cheaper.
Not doubt that would but then Apple wouldn't have one of the smallest desktop computers going to market! Lets face it this year Flash can't compete with hard drives strictly on a cost to purchase basis, no body with a reasonable grasp of the situation this year will argue that. One the other hand the cost of the product in the final machine is a different story. This is where things get iffy. The production of mass produced mother boards with on board flash has to shave some of the cost off the final product verses one with a solid state drive. You save on assembly time, power supply and heat management costs.
In any event we only have to step back a bit and look at the iPod Touch to see where Apple could go with this and keep things cost effective. The Touch has soldered in Flash, nothing wrong with that and it seems to make people happy. The unit is inexpensive for what you get, which in many ways is a full PC, yet can be had with 16GB of Flash. Take the same point of view when building the new Mini mother board and we should be able to get 32GB easy with Samsungs new year ramp. G4 GB isn't out to the question either.
So how well will it work and will it sell. Looking at ASUS modest effort with the Eee PC and I'd have to say the potential is excellent for performance. The customers reactions will be difficult to judge but we can see that there is interest demonstrated in this thread.