Originally Posted by 2kunlimited
What I wrote earlier was a response to your comments about whether or not I considered the factors that you stated. My reply was a direct answer to that. All you are doing now is cherry picking on things that seems to support your argument. Common now... battery ?? Keyboards?? is that all you got? Do you honestly think that little things like that would ammount to $900?
You are cherry picking items that support your argument. I merely asked you to consider the whole of the item. You cherry picked the display resolution but chose not to consider any other aspect of it. Do you think someone who works in graphic design is going to choose a TN display for their work?
I also clearly pointed out in my first paragraph that Dell charges an additional $125 for the same processor in the MBP you tried to compare it to, yet you skipped over that glaring fact to state that the difference in keyboard and battery is "[all that I] got." I started with the most expensive component differences hoping that you might be able to see how your assertion that the XPS is identical
to the MBP despite the MBP costing 900 is so glaring wrong. I misjudged your ability to be rational and fair, I'll try not to make that mistake again.
As for your take on the video card. The standard card for MBP is the nividia 9400m gt. Since we are talking about standard hardware the 9600m gt doesn't count.
They are both standard on the MBP. You get both cards with all MBPs. You can't get just one.
Who in the world would talk about and compare every single technical details in a forum? First of all, I don't know every single technical details that you want. What I do know is the obvious differences in the hardware.
You would, obviously. I am still wondering why you created an account just to post cherry picked specs about two machines that target different classes of consumers. And either you don't know the obvious differences or you are purposely being disingenuous posting that a machine that is $900 less is identical
to the MBP you are comparing it to. You say you know the obvious differences in HW but you failed to even compare it with even the same processor speed, which was possible from the Dell site.
I just simply sated facts
No, you didn't. You stated some facts while ignoring other facts and spun it to fit your fasle argument that "the XPS is nearly identical while being $900 cheaper."
I am not saying that everyone should buy a Dell contrary to what you are assuming...I am saying that pc manufacture(using dell as an example) sell notebooks that have similar or better hardware to Macs at considerably lower price.
There will always be a PC vendor that has something over another PC vendor. If a $300 network has more USB ports than a $1200 MB does that make it better? If additional USB ports are important to your purchase then it surely does, but that doesn't mean the MB is $900 over priced because a cheaper machines bests it in some way. Just as the MBP isn't $900 too much because the XPS bests it in some way. The MBP fit a niche for certain buyers just as the XPS does.
The reason I am even posting on this forum is because the person who wrote this article suggested that Mac notebooks are comparable to PC in terms of price. If that is the case then Apple's computer market share will be a lot higher than the 7 or so percent it has now.
There marketshare is quite high in the US (hard to compare globally when they choose not to sell in most countries that HP and Dell) when you consider that they don't sell $400 notebooks and $300 desktops using very old components. You are probably comparing them to MS' marketshare, which is just foolish in every way. You should be comparing them to other PC vendors. I think Dell and HP have about 20-22% each. Considering that the average Mac sells price is so much higher than the average junk HP or Dell the 10% in the US is quite high. Then consider that Apple owns 66% of the entire computer line at pricepoints over $1000. If Apple's prices were so bad at the level they compete at then HP and Dell should be doing considerably better. The simple fact is, Apple sells so many of their higher-end machines that they can make them more competitively priced than other PC vendors when you actually comparing near identical machines. HP and Dell make so few of their higher end systems in comparison by model number that they have no choice but to charge more to maintain their razor thin profits, though they are better than the profits of their budget machines.
The bottom line is that you should choose the machine that fits your needs. We live in a free market so we are not limited to choosing one one machine because someone tells it's good enough for all our needs. I like a machine that feels and performs a certain way but have no problem with you choosing a different machine, but don't tell me and others that our choices are wrong because you can't see why a faster, newer arch processor would cost more or why a longer lasting battery isn't important just so long as you have a battery or why an IPS display isn't better than a TN display, etc.