You're giving a definition of a computer and calling it a calculator? Why don't you read the definitions on the Google list I gave you, or don't you really want to know?
I don't want to read a google definition, it is not a trust worthy source for getting definitions.
At the end of the day, a calculator is a computing device, it computes things. Just because your definition of what a computer is today is different from a few years ago doesn't make you right.
I don't want to read a google definition, it is not a trust worthy source for getting definitions.
What? The Mirriam-Webster dictionary, one of the most respected is in those links, so is the Brittanica, and others. You don't want to read them, because they don't agree with what you are saying.
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At the end of the day, a calculator is a computing device, it computes things. Just because your definition of what a computer is today is different from a few years ago doesn't make you right.
Aha! So you think a calculator and a computer are the same thing. Very interesting concept. I don't know of anyone else who would agree with that. Again, look it up.
Aha! So you think a calculator and a computer are the same thing. Very interesting concept. I don't know of anyone else who would agree with that. Again, look it up.
No, that is not what I am saying, and you know it.
The calcuator on my desk is a computing device, so is the iMac I am currently using, and the Dell setting next to it.
No, that is not what I am saying, and you know it.
The calcuator on my desk is a computing device, so is the iMac I am currently using, and the Dell setting next to it.
The problem is that calculators "calculate", and computers "compute".
The best I can do here is to say that calculators are far more hardwired that computers are, and don't have the I/O capabilities computers do either. They are devices with one function only. Computers are multifunction devices, or, for embedded versions, they also specifically do measurement and control functions.
Even programmable calculators are only able to program around the expressions hardwired in the machine.
Honestly, you're the only educated, intelligent person who has ever not understood the difference between a computer and a calculator I have ever communicated with.
The problem is that calculators "calculate", and computers "compute".
let's go back to the dictionary.
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compute |kəmˈpyoōt|
verb [ trans. ] (often be computed)
calculate or reckon (a figure or amount) : we can compute the exact increase | depreciation is computed by applying the straight-line method.
? [ intrans. ] make a calculation, esp. using a computer : modern circuitry can compute faster than any chess player.
? [ intrans., with negative ] informal seem reasonable; make sense : the idea of an ethic governing what goes on in cyberspace simply does not compute. [ORIGIN: from the phrase does not compute, once used as an error message in computing.]
And? Sure, computers can do all simpler operations, what of it?
Calculators can't do what computers do.
a computer is a device that can perform its work using programs that be varied in ways that calculators can't.
This is hopeless. You just don't understand.
This last definition is meaningless. Its not a definition of computer, or calculator. It's a general definition of the word "compute". Useless.
Why don't you do the right thing, and punch in the words computer, and calculator?
Here, this is from Princeton University, where some of the most important developments in early computing was done (as well as some of the biggest breakthroughs in physics):
No, you don't understand because your definition of a computer is what exists today, not what existed when the word was developed
I know what it meant. If you look at the Princeton definitions (or anywhere else) it says that a calculator, or computer, were originally people. I've known that since I was a kid, and that was a while ago.
The concept of a computer hasn't changed if you're talking about a "device" to perform computations.
And even if the definition WAS somewhat different 60 or more years ago, what does that have to do with anything now?
Did you at least read the links I provided? Because I gave some the other day, and you obviously were disdaining them. If you haven't read them, please do.
Those three sources are some of the most reliable sources around. And they actually define what we're supposedly talking about, which are not verbs, but nouns.
And? Sure, computers can do all simpler operations, what of it?
Calculators can't do what computers do.
a computer is a device that can perform its work using programs that be varied in ways that calculators can't.
This is hopeless. You just don't understand.
This last definition is meaningless. Its not a definition of computer, or calculator. It's a general definition of the word "compute". Useless.
Why don't you do the right thing, and punch in the words computer, and calculator?
Here, this is from Princeton University, where some of the most important developments in early computing was done (as well as some of the biggest breakthroughs in physics):
The point is the iPhone is being bought by people willing to spend money. Is it better to make an app for people who don't spend much money, or the people spending the most money? Looking at the growth of the app store gives an easy answer.
The iPhone was always meant to be an expensive device which worked like a mini Mac and could do more thsn just any other phone. What Steve said was true. The iPhone really revolutionised the way phones work.
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You're giving a definition of a computer and calling it a calculator? Why don't you read the definitions on the Google list I gave you, or don't you really want to know?
I don't want to read a google definition, it is not a trust worthy source for getting definitions.
At the end of the day, a calculator is a computing device, it computes things. Just because your definition of what a computer is today is different from a few years ago doesn't make you right.
A game will not have any more succes on the 3GS vs the 3G. Not in the same way a game can have more success on the iPhone vs Windows Mobile.
It will if it is better for the 3GS compared to the other iPhone models.
I don't want to read a google definition, it is not a trust worthy source for getting definitions.
What? The Mirriam-Webster dictionary, one of the most respected is in those links, so is the Brittanica, and others. You don't want to read them, because they don't agree with what you are saying.
At the end of the day, a calculator is a computing device, it computes things. Just because your definition of what a computer is today is different from a few years ago doesn't make you right.
Aha! So you think a calculator and a computer are the same thing. Very interesting concept. I don't know of anyone else who would agree with that. Again, look it up.
Aha! So you think a calculator and a computer are the same thing. Very interesting concept. I don't know of anyone else who would agree with that. Again, look it up.
No, that is not what I am saying, and you know it.
The calcuator on my desk is a computing device, so is the iMac I am currently using, and the Dell setting next to it.
No, that is not what I am saying, and you know it.
The calcuator on my desk is a computing device, so is the iMac I am currently using, and the Dell setting next to it.
The problem is that calculators "calculate", and computers "compute".
The best I can do here is to say that calculators are far more hardwired that computers are, and don't have the I/O capabilities computers do either. They are devices with one function only. Computers are multifunction devices, or, for embedded versions, they also specifically do measurement and control functions.
Even programmable calculators are only able to program around the expressions hardwired in the machine.
Honestly, you're the only educated, intelligent person who has ever not understood the difference between a computer and a calculator I have ever communicated with.
The problem is that calculators "calculate", and computers "compute".
let's go back to the dictionary.
compute |kəmˈpyoōt|
verb [ trans. ] (often be computed)
calculate or reckon (a figure or amount) : we can compute the exact increase | depreciation is computed by applying the straight-line method.
? [ intrans. ] make a calculation, esp. using a computer : modern circuitry can compute faster than any chess player.
? [ intrans., with negative ] informal seem reasonable; make sense : the idea of an ethic governing what goes on in cyberspace simply does not compute. [ORIGIN: from the phrase does not compute, once used as an error message in computing.]
let's go back to the dictionary.
And? Sure, computers can do all simpler operations, what of it?
Calculators can't do what computers do.
a computer is a device that can perform its work using programs that be varied in ways that calculators can't.
This is hopeless. You just don't understand.
This last definition is meaningless. Its not a definition of computer, or calculator. It's a general definition of the word "compute". Useless.
Why don't you do the right thing, and punch in the words computer, and calculator?
Here, this is from Princeton University, where some of the most important developments in early computing was done (as well as some of the biggest breakthroughs in physics):
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=computer
Then, go to the word "calculator", first on the second line of definitions.
This is very simple. It gives a one sentence definition for each.
Or, you can go here:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/computer
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/calculator
Go a bit further
:http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...30429/computer
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...155/calculator
If you can't get the concept from this, then please don't bother further.
No, you don't understand because your definition of a computer is what exists today, not what existed when the word was developed
I know what it meant. If you look at the Princeton definitions (or anywhere else) it says that a calculator, or computer, were originally people. I've known that since I was a kid, and that was a while ago.
The concept of a computer hasn't changed if you're talking about a "device" to perform computations.
And even if the definition WAS somewhat different 60 or more years ago, what does that have to do with anything now?
Did you at least read the links I provided? Because I gave some the other day, and you obviously were disdaining them. If you haven't read them, please do.
Those three sources are some of the most reliable sources around. And they actually define what we're supposedly talking about, which are not verbs, but nouns.
And? Sure, computers can do all simpler operations, what of it?
Calculators can't do what computers do.
a computer is a device that can perform its work using programs that be varied in ways that calculators can't.
This is hopeless. You just don't understand.
This last definition is meaningless. Its not a definition of computer, or calculator. It's a general definition of the word "compute". Useless.
Why don't you do the right thing, and punch in the words computer, and calculator?
Here, this is from Princeton University, where some of the most important developments in early computing was done (as well as some of the biggest breakthroughs in physics):
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=computer
Then, go to the word "calculator", first on the second line of definitions.
This is very simple. It gives a one sentence definition for each.
Or, you can go here:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/computer
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/calculator
Go a bit further
:http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...30429/computer
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...155/calculator
If you can't get the concept from this, then please don't bother further.
The iPhone is as powerful as an old PC you have. Just more better. It seems he/she does not understand the difference.
The point is the iPhone is being bought by people willing to spend money. Is it better to make an app for people who don't spend much money, or the people spending the most money? Looking at the growth of the app store gives an easy answer.
The iPhone was always meant to be an expensive device which worked like a mini Mac and could do more thsn just any other phone. What Steve said was true. The iPhone really revolutionised the way phones work.