How did you manage to back up 6 macs on a single TC?!
Some of the computers in question do have external disks for Time Machine use. It began to seem like the money would be better spent on one large disk for many computers to share for this purpose.
Security was also a concern, a locally attached disk could walk off, where the Time Capsule can be stored in (more) secure area.
The systems in question are used in a busines environment, so they're not storing music, videos and other large stuff like that. They store documents, e-mails, and stuff that generally doesn't take up much space. Most of them have (at the largest) an 80GB hard disk installed, most of which is empty. (Of course, the Intel Macintosh systems have larger ones, but very little of their capacity is in use.)
Some of the computers in question do have external disks for Time Machine use. It began to seem like the money would be better spent on one large disk for many computers to share for this purpose.
Security was also a concern, a locally attached disk could walk off, where the Time Capsule can be stored in (more) secure area.
The systems in question are used in a busines environment, so they're not storing music, videos and other large stuff like that. They store documents, e-mails, and stuff that generally doesn't take up much space. Most of them have (at the largest) an 80GB hard disk installed, most of which is empty. (Of course, the Intel Macintosh systems have larger ones, but very little of their capacity is in use.)
You know your network better than me but if I had that many Macs and security was an issue I would have backed them up to a server HDD instead of TC.
I had my share of problems with TC but I discovered the trick. If you leave TC alone and don't mess with the image files it will work without glitches. When you have the "cannot mount" issue just restart TC and the Mac.
Some of the computers in question do have external disks for Time Machine use. It began to seem like the money would be better spent on one large disk for many computers to share for this purpose.
Security was also a concern, a locally attached disk could walk off, where the Time Capsule can be stored in (more) secure area.
The systems in question are used in a busines environment, so they're not storing music, videos and other large stuff like that. They store documents, e-mails, and stuff that generally doesn't take up much space. Most of them have (at the largest) an 80GB hard disk installed, most of which is empty. (Of course, the Intel Macintosh systems have larger ones, but very little of their capacity is in use.)
where i work we use Netbackup or Evault disk backup. if what you are backing up is very important and money can be lost then you need to invest in a real backup solution.
I sold my Time Capsule a while back and traded it in for a dual-band Airport Extreme.
Now that the ReadyNAS has native Time Machine support, I've essentially got an expandable , RAID-5 Time Capsule that is much faster. See http://www.readynas.com/?p=1097
Apple TV doesn't really need a big HD, I have the 40GB model, my iTunes library is nearing a gig and I just stream everything. Why would anyone buy the 160GB model?
Apple TV doesn't really need a big HD, I have the 40GB model, my iTunes library is nearing a gig and I just stream everything. Why would anyone buy the 160GB model?
The only reason ATV would benefit from a large drive is for people who don't leave their computer on all the time. iTunes does need to be opened on the host computer for ATV to connect and stream.. In my house, the desktop MacPro is always on so it is no issue at all.. I actually prefer to have just one TB drive dedicated to media and have ATV connect to it.. For those who don't leave their computers on/and or have iTunes opened all the time, a larger ATV drive would be nice... Either that or enable the ATV usb port so users can add additional storage drives.
Of course not all of that is stuff that needs to stay online...
$ du -sh Podcasts Movies TV\\ Shows
120G\tPodcasts
126G\tMovies
196G\tTV Shows
I don't watch most TV Shows more than once, and a third of those Podcasts are also TV shows being serviced up from a remote media server. Still, I had to upgrade my external drive to a 1TB Minimax to continue holding content
...and this is why I want an Apple TV with more than 160gb of storage
...and this is why I want an Apple TV with more than 160gb of storage
Might as well join in on the fun...
$ du -sh /filestore/*
31M\t/filestore/documents
835M\t/filestore/ebooks
145G\t/filestore/karaoke
87G\t/filestore/misc
71G\t/filestore/music
34G\t/filestore/photos
48G\t/filestore/projects
34G\t/filestore/software
188G\t/filestore/video
Yes, I like to keep things organized.
Of course, that's all on a Linux box using a 2.25TB RAID-5 (4x750G) and shared over 2x1G Ethernet + Wi-Fi (Wireless N). Much more useful and upgradable than a specialty device IMO. Plus I don't need to waste money getting large hard drives for every computer/device in my house (keep track of what's stored where, risk data loss due to hard drive failures, etc).
Increasing the storage capacity is simply a matter of buying 4 new hard drives every couple of years. I usually wait until I can at least double the capacity for $100 per hard drive or less (so $400 total).
Apple TV doesn't really need a big HD, I have the 40GB model, my iTunes library is nearing a gig and I just stream everything. Why would anyone buy the 160GB model?
Because maybe they don't want to leave an entire computer running 24/7 to stream from. Talk about a waste of electricity.
The Time Capsule is trying to be a router, backup unit and file server all in one, but lacks speed and redundancy to fulfill all those jobs. At the most it can do two out of three for any given customer.
If Apple wants to make this part of their business more than just a hobby they'll need to make a proper home server box. A side effect of making a home server is that the very same machine could probably plug the gaping hole in the lineup between the Mac mini and Mac Pro so effectively targeted by the clone makers.
If Apple wants to make this part of their business more than just a hobby they'll need to make a proper home server box. A side effect of making a home server is that the very same machine could probably plug the gaping hole in the lineup between the Mac mini and Mac Pro so effectively targeted by the clone makers.
Just as Time Machine does a great job of introducing a backup solution to those who've never had one before, Time Capsule fills the void of a NAS device to those who have never heard of one. I doubt Apple is looking at getting into the already crowded redundant backup field.
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Increasing the storage capacity is simply a matter of buying 4 new hard drives every couple of years. I usually wait until I can at least double the capacity for $100 per hard drive or less (so $400 total).
This is exactly why I've been eying a Drobo. Its redundancy implementation allows you to upgrade individual drives, unlike traditional RAID solutions that require all of the drives in the array to match. I hear the folks on MacBreak Weekly raving about their Drobos incessantly, but I come here and read about terrible performance issues and raise an eyebrow.
Then again, since I reckon I'd be using an array of sort for storing my Aperture Vault and iTunes stores, performance probably isn't much of an issue.
The maximum you can go for is 250GB. Apple is using older notebook IDE HDDs which no one uses anymore.
I didn't realise that - you'd think that alone would be reason enough for them to upgrade the unit. Just as older memory is more expensive (due to lower demand), I imagine Apple is paying more for 160GB PATA drives than they would for higher capacity SATA drives.
Shame they don't just allow an extra 1/4" (or so) in height and use full-sized 3.5" drives. And while we're at it, a faster processor would be nice too so that 720p mkv files could be played back
But is it Green -to have 2 machines (3 including the TV itself) running to watch but one file?
I'm with you. To me, it makes no sense to put additional wear on my computer HDD while also using my AppleTV and wearing it down. Heck, if I didn't care about prematurely wearing out my MacBook I could just hook it up directly to my TV.
I don't know if I'd ever want to completely delete my files from my laptop though since transferring it back over from the ATV to the computer is not possible...unless you know of some work around.
As for my TimeCapsule...works fine. Occasionally slows down my MacBook but usually I barely notice it.
Can I extend the "Gust Network" using my Airport Express?... I tried to extend my Airport Extreme "Guest Network" using me Airport Express but it would not let me.
seriously, for less than $450, you can get 2x 2Tb external WDs at amazon, and it's not even a good price. or get a fast D-Link NSE and put in any drive. $500+tax is a joke.
Remember that the time capsule has a server-grade disk in it. When you compare it against an external disk you should take this in consideration. These are more expensive disks, but you get more from them in terms of quality & reliability.
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Is it possible to get an AppleTV and just put in your own 320 or 500 gig hard drive?
The maximum you can go for is 250GB. Apple is using older notebook IDE HDDs which no one uses anymore.
How did you manage to back up 6 macs on a single TC?!
Some of the computers in question do have external disks for Time Machine use. It began to seem like the money would be better spent on one large disk for many computers to share for this purpose.
Security was also a concern, a locally attached disk could walk off, where the Time Capsule can be stored in (more) secure area.
The systems in question are used in a busines environment, so they're not storing music, videos and other large stuff like that. They store documents, e-mails, and stuff that generally doesn't take up much space. Most of them have (at the largest) an 80GB hard disk installed, most of which is empty. (Of course, the Intel Macintosh systems have larger ones, but very little of their capacity is in use.)
The maximum you can go for is 250GB. Apple is using older notebook IDE HDDs which no one uses anymore.
Western Digital now has a 320GB PATA notebook drive out...and you could probably use that with an Apple TV.
Western Digital now has a 320GB PATA notebook drive out...and you could probably use that with an Apple TV.
If it is 2.5" then you can use it. When I looked few months ago the maximum 2.5" IDE HDD I could find was 250GB.
Some of the computers in question do have external disks for Time Machine use. It began to seem like the money would be better spent on one large disk for many computers to share for this purpose.
Security was also a concern, a locally attached disk could walk off, where the Time Capsule can be stored in (more) secure area.
The systems in question are used in a busines environment, so they're not storing music, videos and other large stuff like that. They store documents, e-mails, and stuff that generally doesn't take up much space. Most of them have (at the largest) an 80GB hard disk installed, most of which is empty. (Of course, the Intel Macintosh systems have larger ones, but very little of their capacity is in use.)
You know your network better than me but if I had that many Macs and security was an issue I would have backed them up to a server HDD instead of TC.
I had my share of problems with TC but I discovered the trick. If you leave TC alone and don't mess with the image files it will work without glitches. When you have the "cannot mount" issue just restart TC and the Mac.
Some of the computers in question do have external disks for Time Machine use. It began to seem like the money would be better spent on one large disk for many computers to share for this purpose.
Security was also a concern, a locally attached disk could walk off, where the Time Capsule can be stored in (more) secure area.
The systems in question are used in a busines environment, so they're not storing music, videos and other large stuff like that. They store documents, e-mails, and stuff that generally doesn't take up much space. Most of them have (at the largest) an 80GB hard disk installed, most of which is empty. (Of course, the Intel Macintosh systems have larger ones, but very little of their capacity is in use.)
where i work we use Netbackup or Evault disk backup. if what you are backing up is very important and money can be lost then you need to invest in a real backup solution.
Now that the ReadyNAS has native Time Machine support, I've essentially got an expandable , RAID-5 Time Capsule that is much faster. See http://www.readynas.com/?p=1097
Apple TV doesn't really need a big HD, I have the 40GB model, my iTunes library is nearing a gig and I just stream everything. Why would anyone buy the 160GB model?
Because not all people have 1 gig, I have 15.
Apple TV doesn't really need a big HD, I have the 40GB model, my iTunes library is nearing a gig and I just stream everything. Why would anyone buy the 160GB model?
The only reason ATV would benefit from a large drive is for people who don't leave their computer on all the time. iTunes does need to be opened on the host computer for ATV to connect and stream.. In my house, the desktop MacPro is always on so it is no issue at all.. I actually prefer to have just one TB drive dedicated to media and have ATV connect to it.. For those who don't leave their computers on/and or have iTunes opened all the time, a larger ATV drive would be nice... Either that or enable the ATV usb port so users can add additional storage drives.
Because not all people have 1 gig, I have 15.
I have 60GB.
I have 60GB.
As long as we're pounding our chests...
$ du -sh iTunes\\ Music
472G\tiTunes Music
Of course not all of that is stuff that needs to stay online...
$ du -sh Podcasts Movies TV\\ Shows
120G\tPodcasts
126G\tMovies
196G\tTV Shows
I don't watch most TV Shows more than once, and a third of those Podcasts are also TV shows being serviced up from a remote media server. Still, I had to upgrade my external drive to a 1TB Minimax to continue holding content
...and this is why I want an Apple TV with more than 160gb of storage
As long as we're pounding our chests...
. . .
...and this is why I want an Apple TV with more than 160gb of storage
Might as well join in on the fun...
$ du -sh /filestore/*
31M\t/filestore/documents
835M\t/filestore/ebooks
145G\t/filestore/karaoke
87G\t/filestore/misc
71G\t/filestore/music
34G\t/filestore/photos
48G\t/filestore/projects
34G\t/filestore/software
188G\t/filestore/video
Yes, I like to keep things organized.
Of course, that's all on a Linux box using a 2.25TB RAID-5 (4x750G) and shared over 2x1G Ethernet + Wi-Fi (Wireless N). Much more useful and upgradable than a specialty device IMO. Plus I don't need to waste money getting large hard drives for every computer/device in my house (keep track of what's stored where, risk data loss due to hard drive failures, etc).
Increasing the storage capacity is simply a matter of buying 4 new hard drives every couple of years. I usually wait until I can at least double the capacity for $100 per hard drive or less (so $400 total).
Apple TV doesn't really need a big HD, I have the 40GB model, my iTunes library is nearing a gig and I just stream everything. Why would anyone buy the 160GB model?
Because maybe they don't want to leave an entire computer running 24/7 to stream from. Talk about a waste of electricity.
Because maybe they don't want to leave an entire computer running 24/7 to stream from. Talk about a waste of electricity.
Guess you haven't heard of Wake-on-LAN?
If Apple wants to make this part of their business more than just a hobby they'll need to make a proper home server box. A side effect of making a home server is that the very same machine could probably plug the gaping hole in the lineup between the Mac mini and Mac Pro so effectively targeted by the clone makers.
If Apple wants to make this part of their business more than just a hobby they'll need to make a proper home server box. A side effect of making a home server is that the very same machine could probably plug the gaping hole in the lineup between the Mac mini and Mac Pro so effectively targeted by the clone makers.
Just as Time Machine does a great job of introducing a backup solution to those who've never had one before, Time Capsule fills the void of a NAS device to those who have never heard of one. I doubt Apple is looking at getting into the already crowded redundant backup field.
Increasing the storage capacity is simply a matter of buying 4 new hard drives every couple of years. I usually wait until I can at least double the capacity for $100 per hard drive or less (so $400 total).
This is exactly why I've been eying a Drobo. Its redundancy implementation allows you to upgrade individual drives, unlike traditional RAID solutions that require all of the drives in the array to match. I hear the folks on MacBreak Weekly raving about their Drobos incessantly, but I come here and read about terrible performance issues and raise an eyebrow.
Then again, since I reckon I'd be using an array of sort for storing my Aperture Vault and iTunes stores, performance probably isn't much of an issue.
The maximum you can go for is 250GB. Apple is using older notebook IDE HDDs which no one uses anymore.
I didn't realise that - you'd think that alone would be reason enough for them to upgrade the unit. Just as older memory is more expensive (due to lower demand), I imagine Apple is paying more for 160GB PATA drives than they would for higher capacity SATA drives.
Shame they don't just allow an extra 1/4" (or so) in height and use full-sized 3.5" drives. And while we're at it, a faster processor would be nice too so that 720p mkv files could be played back
But is it Green -to have 2 machines (3 including the TV itself) running to watch but one file?
I'm with you. To me, it makes no sense to put additional wear on my computer HDD while also using my AppleTV and wearing it down. Heck, if I didn't care about prematurely wearing out my MacBook I could just hook it up directly to my TV.
I don't know if I'd ever want to completely delete my files from my laptop though since transferring it back over from the ATV to the computer is not possible...unless you know of some work around.
As for my TimeCapsule...works fine. Occasionally slows down my MacBook but usually I barely notice it.
but you have the apple logo on it.
seriously, for less than $450, you can get 2x 2Tb external WDs at amazon, and it's not even a good price. or get a fast D-Link NSE and put in any drive. $500+tax is a joke.
Remember that the time capsule has a server-grade disk in it. When you compare it against an external disk you should take this in consideration. These are more expensive disks, but you get more from them in terms of quality & reliability.