Google chief steps down from Apple's Board of Directors

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  • Reply 21 of 40
    ajitmdajitmd Posts: 365member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post


    This guy stole a lot Apple secrets and should be tried for industrial espionage.



    His replacement should be from the trucking industry, no more tech CEOs for Apple!



    Enough is enough!



    There is no doubt that GOOG has behaved unethically. How can their CEO sit on AAPL board for a long time, listen to all the confidential info about current and future products like the iPhone... while developing a sneak product like Android? Sure he is quitting now after doing all the damage!



    They want to compete with MSFT, but at the same time they did not hesitate to get the regulatory agencies here and in the EU involved. Talk about under handed crybabies.



    Anyway, I do not trust their web business model for my business or even personal needs. If I keep too much info there, I can be held hostage by GOOG, or anybody who can get access to the info. All this info like addresses, calendars, searches, email, plus business docs can be used against anybody. At least with my PC/LAN, I got control of the data and I do keep remote back ups.



    Add Android to the user and GOOG in control of the individual. They can shut anybody down, and even start extracting all kinds of fees. Sooner or later they will want to monetize all this "free" stuff they give. I have learnt that in life, there is not much "free". Even freedom is not free!
  • Reply 22 of 40
    charlitunacharlituna Posts: 7,215member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aplnub View Post


    Did it finally take the FCC letter to motivate everyone involved to see this happen? I like Eric, I like Google and Apple in bed together, but it just can't be that close when both companies are doing the same thing even though they get along.



    the letter was probably a factor yes. As it was Eric had to miss meetings and such when the iphone was discussed and probably should have left one or the other as soon as Google announced they were getting into the mobile os game.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Timon View Post


    It would make sense for then too after all they now have to battle Microsoft and Yahoo. It makes more sense if they do it as close friends.



    there are close friends and then there is living together. they can still work together on some projects but not have common board members. as it is, there were issues because Eric couldn't be at meetings where the iphone was discussed due to conflict of interest and need for secrecy. which was likely most meetings. better to let him just get a report at his google office of things affecting google that were talked about. no risk he'd get info he shouldn't have and his day isn't wasted sitting outside waiting for it to be okay to come in and hear the meeting.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rokken View Post


    AT&T does not manage or approve applications for the App Store directly, which is Apple's job, but it's dubious that it has absolutely no involvement in the app approval process.



    you can bet that there's something in the contracts about nothing that unduly taxes the data network (like slingbox allegedly would have) or takes functions from ATT's service (like the Google based 'texting' would have)



    so through that, ATT could cut off apps but not be the ones to stamp the red stamp



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zoolook View Post


    Personally I don't want my data on the cloud, I want it on my USB drive and HDD... 'cos I am paranoid enough to think Google might very well not have my best interests at heart.



    forget best interests, how about not really knowing how safe your info is from loss. at least if it is on my computer and I don't back it up, that's on me. but how do I know about what they are doing. I don't. I just have to trust them.
  • Reply 23 of 40
    Yet sadly, Bill Campbell still remains as Intuit continues to stick it to Mac users.
  • Reply 24 of 40
    tofinotofino Posts: 697member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post


    This guy stole a lot Apple secrets and should be tried for industrial espionage.



    His replacement should be from the trucking industry, no more tech CEOs for Apple!



    Enough is enough!



    i'm not sure that would work out. remember when they brought the pepsi dude in? that didn't work out so well... except for the newton of course!
  • Reply 25 of 40
    zoolookzoolook Posts: 657member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by charlituna View Post




    forget best interests, how about not really knowing how safe your info is from loss. at least if it is on my computer and I don't back it up, that's on me. but how do I know about what they are doing. I don't. I just have to trust them.



    I agree with your second part, but lets NOT forget best interests at all. I don't want Google's web crawlers sniffing my documents and figuring out (or making assumptions) that I might be applying for a loan, or about to sue my neightbour or whatever. Don't think it'll comne to that? Right...



    Didn't Amazon remotely wipe 1984 from thousands of Kindles recently? The ability to be subversive should never be in the hands of someone like Google. Look at how they help the Chinese government suppress freedom over there... What if there is a sudden change in government in some country and they request Google hand over any documents that might be considered 'dangerous'. They will, if they think it'll save them a few bucks.
  • Reply 26 of 40
    Ooh, I really hope the parting was not on bad terms. I like the fact that Google and Apple are allies and I'm not sure we'd like the result if things turned sour.
  • Reply 27 of 40
    801801 Posts: 271member
    With a brand new cloud computer in the works, maybe Apple will get into search. Search with the Apple angle.



    Yea, I know, there's a lot of other interesting products you can create with a cloud, but still.



    Just think'in.
  • Reply 28 of 40
    shogunshogun Posts: 360member
    What gets me is now he'd have to recuse himself from discussions about Apple's OS. But now he already has an OS in process. He should have recused himself from OS discussions as soon as Google began to undertake the project. Not cool, I say.
  • Reply 29 of 40
    This great news. Both companies are at the forefront of the future of mobile computing and have no business to be partnered at this time. Friendly, healthy competition will produce great results. hopefully they will remain cordial, I expect it is in each of their own best interest to remain so. That said, maybe now we will see multitouch come to android?
  • Reply 30 of 40
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by charlituna View Post


    forget best interests, how about not really knowing how safe your info is from loss. at least if it is on my computer and I don't back it up, that's on me. but how do I know about what they are doing. I don't. I just have to trust them.



    This is a common reaction I've seen, and a bit over-the-top to be honest. There's nothing that says you need to backup every file you have, and if their storage goes down (highly unlikely) you still have the files on your own hdd.



    I mean, I do get kind of weirded out by the idea (big brother's watching you type of stuff) but I don't really have anything that I would back up that I see important enough that it would get stolen. They really want an english paper I wrote for school? Or my pictures to a local theme park? These are the things I see getting backed up by people, not corporate secrets or home-made porn lol.
  • Reply 31 of 40
    Now they have to kick the Intuit CEO off Apple's board... Really, after the repeatedly buggy, feature incomplete apps they've released in the past, now their "rewrite" of it for the Mac has 2 whole developers on it (as part of a team of 5).
  • Reply 32 of 40
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 30,996member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post


    Who will replace him?



    Tim Cook? or an outsider?



    There is not a "minimum" number of people required to be on a board of directors, plus they are technically more important than the company's president because their votes help decide the direction of the company.
  • Reply 33 of 40
    zoobszoobs Posts: 1member
    those of you that contend that eric schmidt is a traitor are perhaps missing a deeper theme here. though google has released android and now chrome os, please ask yourselves why they have not included multi-touch on android when it would be very easy to implement and would boost the usabilty of android tremendously. answer, it would hurt apple's iPhone.

    then ask yourself why when google finally did enter the OS market, they chose to do so via chrome os, a very strictly limited 'web os' i.e. not a google branded, google marketed full version of linux with a nice UI on the front that they actually use in house on their developer computers. answer it would hurt apple's OS X and Mac business.

    Google and Apple have consciously decided to attack microsoft from the high end and low end separately,(beit in Phones, netbooks or computers) while not harming each others core business and doing their best not catch the eye of anti-trust regulators.
  • Reply 34 of 40
    Schmidt did the right thing. Tim Cook should be appointed to replace him.



    http://www.businessinsider.com/give-...im-cook-2009-8
  • Reply 35 of 40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zoobs View Post


    those of you that contend that eric schmidt is a traitor are perhaps missing a deeper theme here. though google has released android and now chrome os, please ask yourselves why they have not included multi-touch on android when it would be very easy to implement and would boost the usabilty of android tremendously. answer, it would hurt apple's iPhone.

    then ask yourself why when google finally did enter the OS market, they chose to do so via chrome os, a very strictly limited 'web os' i.e. not a google branded, google marketed full version of linux with a nice UI on the front that they actually use in house on their developer computers. answer it would hurt apple's OS X and Mac business.

    Google and Apple have consciously decided to attack microsoft from the high end and low end separately,(beit in Phones, netbooks or computers) while not harming each others core business and doing their best not catch the eye of anti-trust regulators.





    1-Because Multi-touch is patented

    2-Because Google wants something new and doesn't appeal to the high-end market (which Apple is all about)

  • Reply 36 of 40
    Jobs stay on Board. Cook becomes CEO. The Board will want another outsider like Jung and Drexler. Maybe NASA's Director of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory Charles Elachi
  • Reply 37 of 40
    hypermarkhypermark Posts: 152member
    At the risk of tooting my horn, in March of LAST year, I wrote a post called 'The Chess Masters: Apple versus Google' that essentially asserted two things.



    One that Apple and Google are without peers in terms of their ability to build products that cross the once impenetrable boundaries between PC, mobile, media and Internet segments.



    Two that given their respective mammoth ambitions, ?friends? Apple/Google are destined to become ?frienemies? ala Apple/Microsoft (circa 1990).



    Looks like destiny is being realized.*



    Check out the post if interested:



    The Chess Masters: Apple versus Google:



    http://bit.ly/P9HJs



    Mark
  • Reply 38 of 40
    ouraganouragan Posts: 424member
    Apple and Google are not competitors because Apple, unlike Google, is a computer hardware company which refuses to license its operating systems, Mac OS X and iPhone OS. Google is a software-only company which will license its operating systems to any company willing to install them on their cell phones or computers.



    The real reason for the break-up is this one:



    Quote:

    Tension between Google and Apple developed last week, when Apple rejected the Google-developed Voice application from the iPhone App Store. Apple also began pulling third-party Voice applications. As a result, Apple and Google, along with AT&T, are currently the subjects of an investigation by the Federal Communications Commission.





    Clearly, Eric Schmidt wants to be able to testify against Apple in the upcoming anti-trust proceedings. Steve Jobs came up with a brave narrative, but Apple broke the law and will be compelled by the Courts to change its anti-competitive behaviour.



    The real winners will be Apple customers who will benefit from lower prices and a greater selection of software.





  • Reply 39 of 40
    lostkiwilostkiwi Posts: 593member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ouragan View Post


    Apple and Google are not competitors because Apple, unlike Google, is a computer hardware company which refuses to license its operating systems, Mac OS X and iPhone OS. Google is a software-only company which will license its operating systems to any company willing to install them on their cell phones or computers.



    The real reason for the break-up is this one:









    Clearly, Eric Schmidt wants to be able to testify against Apple in the upcoming anti-trust proceedings. Steve Jobs came up with a brave narrative, but Apple broke the law and will be compelled by the Courts to change its anti-competitive behaviour.



    The real winners will be Apple customers who will benefit from lower prices and a greater selection of software.









    @outragan, no offence, but you do know what happened to Apple the last time they licensed their software to anyone and everyone? ... We almost lost Apple is what happened!

    I would think Apple of all companies would learn from the mistakes of their past..
  • Reply 40 of 40
    Apple should have dropped Schmidt as soon as they heard of Android

    - it's an outrageous conflict of interest



    - the Chrome OS is a further encroachment by Google

    - so he had to go.



    I don't think the AT&T anti-trust case will worry Apple

    - it doesn't matter much to them if iPhones can be used for free voice-calls

    - but it matters to AT&T
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