Apple has always been it's own ecosystem, it's a vertically integrated company, they make and control the hardware and the software for the best user experience.
Vertically integrated doesn't mean closed. You could always write apps of your own to run on Macs.
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Originally Posted by MacTripper
Google has become EVIL, in the sense that they track and record as much as possible anything a person does online.
Google Analytics (tracks you), Google Ads (annoys you), Google Search (records you), Google Mail (snoops you?), Google Earth (root kits you), Google Voice (snoops you), Google Apps (watches you work), Google DID I MISS ANYTHING??
All going directly into marketing companies computers and then into Uncle Sam's snoop squad.
Fsck Google, I'm tired of their name, their company and everything about it.
And Black Google Helicopters are flying in with the Men in Black Google Suits. They will take the first born of every family in the US and place them into Google Indoctrination camps. We must all put on our tinfoil caps and turn to The Steve to save us from Them.
And Black Google Helicopters are flying in with the Men in Black Google Suits. They will take the first born of every family in the US and place them into Google Indoctrination camps. We must all put on our tinfoil caps and turn to The Steve to save us from Them.
Would you happen to belong to any militias?
Oh, how very clever of you. Yes, of course, anyone concerned about personal privacy must belong to a militia.
The fact is, the biggest reason there is no privacy on the Internet is because of Google. And not content with what they can learn about you through their search engine and analytics, they continue to produce a plethora of "free" products that all have the same purpose: to collect as much personal identifiable information about you as they can, and to control how you access information, including your own information.
You can continue to pretend that they will only use this information and control for innocuous purposes, but there is absolutely no reason to believe that to be the case. Arrogance and greed will push them to use that information for whatever purposes enhance their power and increase their revenues.
You probably think you are protected by their privacy policy, but, in fact, they can and will use the information they collect about you in any way they see fit, and I promise you that at some point you won't be happy about it.
Oh, how very clever of you. Yes, of course, anyone concerned about personal privacy must belong to a militia.
The fact is, the biggest reason there is no privacy on the Internet is because of Google. And not content with what they can learn about you through their search engine and analytics, they continue to produce a plethora of "free" products that all have the same purpose: to collect as much personal identifiable information about you as they can, and to control how you access information, including your own information.
You can continue to pretend that they will only use this information and control for innocuous purposes, but there is absolutely no reason to believe that to be the case. Arrogance and greed will push them to use that information for whatever purposes enhance their power and increase their revenues.
You probably think you are protected by their privacy policy, but, in fact, they can and will use the information they collect about you in any way they see fit, and I promise you that at some point you won't be happy about it.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
Yep. They put some pictures up of cute bunnies at Easter next to their search field, and people give away all their rights to these turkeys. No company has set individual and consumer rights back further on the internet than Google. Not even evil Microsoft has pulled the kind of crap that these scumbags have gotten away with.
They are a telemarking company, that's how they make all of their revenue. They are in bed with domestic and international junk mail companies, but they put up cute bunny pics on their search and these dummies help them fight their battles. What the hell has Google ever done for you?
Apple makes this really cool, shiny iPhone that does all this wonderful stuff on its own, tens of thousands of developers (new, small, medium, big) are making a living selling their apps on the App Store. They have fanboys for a reason, they have a very long, unbroken history of deserving it. You can't even use any of Google's services on their own, you need product(s) made by others to even access them. If their feelings are hurt because they can't parasite of Apple and the iPhone in all the ways they want, they can suck it. I'd rather type random characters into my browser's address bar than help that creepy, beady-eyed, little dweeb Eric Schmidt.
A lot of whiners and brats on here, need to do a lot more reading (books not just memoirs and pamphlets). I see a lot of specific corporate talking points being expounded upon by dimwitted surrogates and whiny brats. Stop falling for the same, stupid ploys. If you're having trouble dating and meeting people, don't pretend that getting raped by Google is the same thing.
This is the most hilarious thing I have ever read. And if you think "tens of thousands" of developers make a living off the App Store, I have some real nice swamp land in Florida to sell you.
And lastly, I find it funny that you admit being an Apple "fanboy" while at the same time denigrating Google "fanboys"...by whining. The irony is off the charts.
I also have an HTC Magic here and I downloaded the GV application from the Android Market and I still can't use Google Voice.
I am in Australia the FCC should make Google release their service to ALL iPhone users before their App is accepted by Apple, the Google Voice service is dicriminatory and should be banned.
I hope this is sarcasm. If not, then you should start a movement for Australia to become part of the United States. Then the FCC would have jurisdiction over what happens there.
Or you should call your government representatives and ask them to force Google to release Google Voice for Australia.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
So you think Google is any better than Apple or MS?
They all have their own agenda and if you think Google is doing this as white knight to the consumer, then you need to get better sh1t to smoke. Google made it clear their want to destroy MS and take away their fan base by providing free office type software. Now they are targeting Apple, but in very clever way.
You may dislike Apple intentions and their protective ways, but guess what Google has the same practice.
Btw: Does anyone remember China and how quick Google was ready to give up to the chinese government to screw their customers (chinese people).
Companies are here to make money for shareholders, bottom line and if someone or something screws with their revenue/profit their will protect it at all costs.
I will watch this from sidelines and see who screws, who first.
We aren't a socialist state where private enterprise in our free market system is dictated to by our Government to the same degree that the USA seems to be heading.
Your FCC better not screw up on forcing companies to accept "Internet based" applications on their devices or spammers and spyware makers will have a field day.
If you look at the comments I was replying to, the poster was saying ALL iPhone users should have this App, so if Apple is forced to allow it to iPhone users then shouldn't Google be forced to provide the service to ALL iPhone users.
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Originally Posted by slu
I hope this is sarcasm. If not, then you should start a movement for Australia to become part of the United States. Then the FCC would have jurisdiction over what happens there.
Or you should call your government representatives and ask them to force Google to release Google Voice for Australia.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
No, they don't have to root kit systems. As I have mentioned before, all they have to do is dangle some "freeware" in front of the ignorant and you hand them whatever they want. It's called social engineering. The only difference between Google and some "hacker" is that they usually manage to not break the law to get what they want.
I say usually because in regards to the Google Books affair, the only difference between them and, for example, Pirate Bay, is that Google has an army of lawyers protecting them. Well, that's not the only difference. Pirate Bay only assisted people in violating copyrights. Google actually actively and knowingly violated copyright law. And it's clear from Eric Schmidt's recent comments on the matter that they believe themselves above the law, that we just have to let them do this because they want to.
There aren't any "secrets" that you have to know; all you have to do is look at the matter objectively and it's clear that Google believes it can do whatever it wants with anyone's information and get away with it. This isn't paranoia, it just the kind of company they obviously are.
So you think Google is any better than Apple or MS?
They all have their own agenda and if you think Google is doing this as white knight to the consumer, then you need to get better sh1t to smoke. Google made it clear their want to destroy MS and take away their fan base by providing free office type software. Now they are targeting Apple, but in very clever way.
You may dislike Apple intentions and their protective ways, but guess what Google has the same practice.
Btw: Does anyone remember China and how quick Google was ready to give up to the chinese government to screw their customers (chinese people).
Companies are here to make money for shareholders, bottom line and if someone or something screws with their revenue/profit their will protect it at all costs.
I will watch this from sidelines and see who screws, who first.
You like to put words in other peoples mouths...we have been over that before.
No, I don't think google is better than Apple. Apple is actually my favourite company. Do you actually have a point to make?
I would like some of these people that hate google so much and are throwing out random accusations to back some of the up...or just quit making shit up.
Does google root kit our systems. It has been stated. Anonymous defended a criticism of that post. He or the person that made the claim is welcome to back it up....they won't of course. Facts are to inconvenient.
Does the GV as submitted automatically send all of the users data to google without out user consent or even knowledge? John B. has repeatedly made this claim and others though will never provide any facts to backup his claims.
I dislike people that fabricate to make a point...their assertions are worthless....they aren't much better.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
Google Earth installs Google Software Update, which is a background process that automatically updates all your Google software without your permission.
Essentially it's watching your hard drive and reporting information to Google. The potential is there for a switch can be thrown for a few seconds anytime to see what's all on your hard drive before being switched off.
Maybe you don't want your mother to know you surf for porn, or you have been investigating a corrupt politician, that's your right to privacy. You shouldn't have to give that up just to use a piece of software to view pretty pictures of Earth.
Right now your trusting Google's programmers and their intentions and Google's intention is to collect as much information as they can to sell to marketing companies and it's largest buyers, governments. So you have to wonder WHY in the hell do they need to run their Google Software Update all the time, taking up processor resources when it can be run while a Google application launches?
How often does one use Google Earth anyway? right? You see the problem? You got something running all the time, for check for updates for something you only run occasionally. It's smells fishy as all hell and given Googles nature and business model in collecting all sorts of information, reeks like dead fish.
Also any vulnerability in this software essentially becomes a rootkit, as it's already installed in root, running all the time and has access to the internet.
95% of all exploits are in applications and plug-ins, not the operating system.
At least if the software update ran while you launched Google Earth, it would cut down on it's exploit potential. Your in the decision loop.
The way it is now, your machine is immediately rooted if a vulnerability is found with their software, just like what happened with Sony's DRM software that turned into a rootkit from vulnerability.
And by the way, what you call 'paranoia" is really the ability of certain people to be able to think several moves ahead compared to those who just blindly thinks everything that occurs is immediate.
"oh! you captured my queen in three moves, I didn't see that coming!"
Yes paranoia can be a problem if it's from imaginary threats, but Googles intentions are obvious, they aim to collect everything they can and may go as far as installing the basis of spyware on your machine to be turned on at a moments notice. Marketeers are famous for abusing people's privacy, that's how they make their money. To build a profile of YOU so they can sell it.
It's enough one has to trust Apple, if they betray that trust, we don't buy their hardware anymore. But Google has nothing to lose, most people are not technically competent to be able to block all their data mining techniques.
No, they don't have to root kit systems. As I have mentioned before, all they have to do is dangle some "freeware" in front of the ignorant and you hand them whatever they want. It's called social engineering. The only difference between Google and some "hacker" is that they usually manage to not break the law to get what they want.
then your post was worthless.
Reading before replying would be helpful....please reread the post I replied to, which you then jumped on...
Like I said, if you think google is root kitting you, then you are paranoid...I am sorry you take issue with that opinion.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
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Originally Posted by Tulkas
You like to put words in other peoples mouths...we have been over that before.
No, I don't think google is better than Apple. Apple is actually my favourite company. Do you actually have a point to make?
I would like some of these people that hate google so much and are throwing out random accusations to back some of the up...or just quit making shit up.
Does google root kit our systems. It has been stated. Anonymous defended a criticism of that post. He or the person that made the claim is welcome to back it up....they won't of course. Facts are to inconvenient.
Does the GV as submitted automatically send all of the users data to google without out user consent or even knowledge? John B. has repeatedly made this claim and others though will never provide any facts to backup his claims.
I dislike people that fabricate to make a point...their assertions are worthless....they aren't much better.
I asked you a question and you go on a rant....never put words in your mouth, now who is paranoid. Just stated my opinion like everyone else.
Btw: can anyone say Google software update (root).
Google Earth installs Google Software Update, which is a background process that automatically updates all your Google software without your permission.
Any vulnerability in this software essentially becomes a rootkit, as it's already installed in root, running all the time and has access to the internet.
95% of all exploits are in applications and plug-ins, not the operating system.
At least if the software update ran while you launched Google Earth, it would cut down on it's exploit potential. Your in the decision loop.
The way it is now, your machine is immediately rooted if a vulnerability is found with their software.
Google Earth installs Google Software Update, which is a background process that automatically updates all your Google software without your permission.
Any vulnerability in this software essentially becomes a rootkit, as it's already installed in root, running all the time and has access to the internet.
95% of all exploits are in applications and plug-ins, not the operating system.
At least if the software update ran while you launched Google Earth, it would cut down on it's exploit potential. Your in the decision loop.
The way it is now, your machine is immediately rooted if a vulnerability is found with their software.
Reading before replying would be helpful....please reread the post I replied to, which you then jumped on...
Like I said, if you think google is root kitting you, then you are paranoid...I am sorry you take issue with that opinion.
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Originally Posted by Tulkas
not a root kit.
Also, Apple had some complaints with their software updater on Windows. We give them the benefit of the doubt.
Please explain to me why it is not a root kit. Since forgive us, if we do not take you at your word. Before you rant on me again, just want to know why?
Btw: I have apple software update on my work system (yes we use windows) and you can set it to manual, so no automatic update, is google the same?
The iPod Touch doesn't have a camera because it's a gaming console, didn't you know that?! Don't believe anyone who says they had to pull that feature at the last minute!
Right? The iPod Touch is a gaming device. Didn't you see all the new gaming accessories that Apple has now for it? The joystick, the snap on console, etc,? It's a PGP -nothing more, nothing less.
Didin't you listen to the spinmeister?
Oh and that blank spot inside the Touch is where Ms PacMan lives.
You like to put words in other peoples mouths...we have been over that before.
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I would like some of these people that hate google so much and are throwing out random accusations to back some of the up...or just quit making shit up.
Does google root kit our systems. It has been stated. Anonymous defended a criticism of that post. He or the person that made the claim is welcome to back it up....they won't of course. Facts are to inconvenient.
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I dislike people that fabricate to make a point...their assertions are worthless....they aren't much better.
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Originally Posted by Tulkas
then your post was worthless.
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Like I said, if you think google is root kitting you, then you are paranoid...I am sorry you take issue with that opinion.
Looks a lot to me as though you are fabricating to make a point, putting words in my mouth, and trying to cover it up. I do agree, though, that your assertions are worthless, however, I will avoid casting aspersions on your character.
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Apple has always been it's own ecosystem, it's a vertically integrated company, they make and control the hardware and the software for the best user experience.
Vertically integrated doesn't mean closed. You could always write apps of your own to run on Macs.
Google has become EVIL, in the sense that they track and record as much as possible anything a person does online.
Google Analytics (tracks you), Google Ads (annoys you), Google Search (records you), Google Mail (snoops you?), Google Earth (root kits you), Google Voice (snoops you), Google Apps (watches you work), Google DID I MISS ANYTHING??
All going directly into marketing companies computers and then into Uncle Sam's snoop squad.
Fsck Google, I'm tired of their name, their company and everything about it.
And Black Google Helicopters are flying in with the Men in Black Google Suits. They will take the first born of every family in the US and place them into Google Indoctrination camps. We must all put on our tinfoil caps and turn to The Steve to save us from Them.
Would you happen to belong to any militias?
And Black Google Helicopters are flying in with the Men in Black Google Suits. They will take the first born of every family in the US and place them into Google Indoctrination camps. We must all put on our tinfoil caps and turn to The Steve to save us from Them.
Would you happen to belong to any militias?
Oh, how very clever of you. Yes, of course, anyone concerned about personal privacy must belong to a militia.
The fact is, the biggest reason there is no privacy on the Internet is because of Google. And not content with what they can learn about you through their search engine and analytics, they continue to produce a plethora of "free" products that all have the same purpose: to collect as much personal identifiable information about you as they can, and to control how you access information, including your own information.
You can continue to pretend that they will only use this information and control for innocuous purposes, but there is absolutely no reason to believe that to be the case. Arrogance and greed will push them to use that information for whatever purposes enhance their power and increase their revenues.
You probably think you are protected by their privacy policy, but, in fact, they can and will use the information they collect about you in any way they see fit, and I promise you that at some point you won't be happy about it.
Oh, how very clever of you. Yes, of course, anyone concerned about personal privacy must belong to a militia.
The fact is, the biggest reason there is no privacy on the Internet is because of Google. And not content with what they can learn about you through their search engine and analytics, they continue to produce a plethora of "free" products that all have the same purpose: to collect as much personal identifiable information about you as they can, and to control how you access information, including your own information.
You can continue to pretend that they will only use this information and control for innocuous purposes, but there is absolutely no reason to believe that to be the case. Arrogance and greed will push them to use that information for whatever purposes enhance their power and increase their revenues.
You probably think you are protected by their privacy policy, but, in fact, they can and will use the information they collect about you in any way they see fit, and I promise you that at some point you won't be happy about it.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
Yep. They put some pictures up of cute bunnies at Easter next to their search field, and people give away all their rights to these turkeys. No company has set individual and consumer rights back further on the internet than Google. Not even evil Microsoft has pulled the kind of crap that these scumbags have gotten away with.
They are a telemarking company, that's how they make all of their revenue. They are in bed with domestic and international junk mail companies, but they put up cute bunny pics on their search and these dummies help them fight their battles. What the hell has Google ever done for you?
Apple makes this really cool, shiny iPhone that does all this wonderful stuff on its own, tens of thousands of developers (new, small, medium, big) are making a living selling their apps on the App Store. They have fanboys for a reason, they have a very long, unbroken history of deserving it. You can't even use any of Google's services on their own, you need product(s) made by others to even access them. If their feelings are hurt because they can't parasite of Apple and the iPhone in all the ways they want, they can suck it. I'd rather type random characters into my browser's address bar than help that creepy, beady-eyed, little dweeb Eric Schmidt.
A lot of whiners and brats on here, need to do a lot more reading (books not just memoirs and pamphlets). I see a lot of specific corporate talking points being expounded upon by dimwitted surrogates and whiny brats. Stop falling for the same, stupid ploys. If you're having trouble dating and meeting people, don't pretend that getting raped by Google is the same thing.
This is the most hilarious thing I have ever read. And if you think "tens of thousands" of developers make a living off the App Store, I have some real nice swamp land in Florida to sell you.
And lastly, I find it funny that you admit being an Apple "fanboy" while at the same time denigrating Google "fanboys"...by whining. The irony is off the charts.
Google said they were informed of the rejection over the phone by vice president Phil Schiller.
Then I guess the word of Google's Alan Eustace that Phil Schiller told him it was rejected is good enough.
<sarcasm mode on>
The evidence above is simply irrefutable
I don't understand what is even being investigated
<sarcasm mode off>
We wont take into account...
- Apple has publicly stated and made official comments to the FCC that they have not rejected it
- Apple has stated they are still reviewing it
- Google hasn't shown anything from Apple stating it was rejected (as does every other app developer with a rejected app)
I'm an iPhone user and I can't use Google Voice.
I also have an HTC Magic here and I downloaded the GV application from the Android Market and I still can't use Google Voice.
I am in Australia the FCC should make Google release their service to ALL iPhone users before their App is accepted by Apple, the Google Voice service is dicriminatory and should be banned.
I hope this is sarcasm. If not, then you should start a movement for Australia to become part of the United States. Then the FCC would have jurisdiction over what happens there.
Or you should call your government representatives and ask them to force Google to release Google Voice for Australia.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
So you think Google is any better than Apple or MS?
They all have their own agenda and if you think Google is doing this as white knight to the consumer, then you need to get better sh1t to smoke. Google made it clear their want to destroy MS and take away their fan base by providing free office type software. Now they are targeting Apple, but in very clever way.
You may dislike Apple intentions and their protective ways, but guess what Google has the same practice.
Btw: Does anyone remember China and how quick Google was ready to give up to the chinese government to screw their customers (chinese people).
Companies are here to make money for shareholders, bottom line and if someone or something screws with their revenue/profit their will protect it at all costs.
I will watch this from sidelines and see who screws, who first.
We aren't a socialist state where private enterprise in our free market system is dictated to by our Government to the same degree that the USA seems to be heading.
Your FCC better not screw up on forcing companies to accept "Internet based" applications on their devices or spammers and spyware makers will have a field day.
If you look at the comments I was replying to, the poster was saying ALL iPhone users should have this App, so if Apple is forced to allow it to iPhone users then shouldn't Google be forced to provide the service to ALL iPhone users.
I hope this is sarcasm. If not, then you should start a movement for Australia to become part of the United States. Then the FCC would have jurisdiction over what happens there.
Or you should call your government representatives and ask them to force Google to release Google Voice for Australia.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
No, they don't have to root kit systems. As I have mentioned before, all they have to do is dangle some "freeware" in front of the ignorant and you hand them whatever they want. It's called social engineering. The only difference between Google and some "hacker" is that they usually manage to not break the law to get what they want.
I say usually because in regards to the Google Books affair, the only difference between them and, for example, Pirate Bay, is that Google has an army of lawyers protecting them. Well, that's not the only difference. Pirate Bay only assisted people in violating copyrights. Google actually actively and knowingly violated copyright law. And it's clear from Eric Schmidt's recent comments on the matter that they believe themselves above the law, that we just have to let them do this because they want to.
There aren't any "secrets" that you have to know; all you have to do is look at the matter objectively and it's clear that Google believes it can do whatever it wants with anyone's information and get away with it. This isn't paranoia, it just the kind of company they obviously are.
So you think Google is any better than Apple or MS?
They all have their own agenda and if you think Google is doing this as white knight to the consumer, then you need to get better sh1t to smoke. Google made it clear their want to destroy MS and take away their fan base by providing free office type software. Now they are targeting Apple, but in very clever way.
You may dislike Apple intentions and their protective ways, but guess what Google has the same practice.
Btw: Does anyone remember China and how quick Google was ready to give up to the chinese government to screw their customers (chinese people).
Companies are here to make money for shareholders, bottom line and if someone or something screws with their revenue/profit their will protect it at all costs.
I will watch this from sidelines and see who screws, who first.
You like to put words in other peoples mouths...we have been over that before.
No, I don't think google is better than Apple. Apple is actually my favourite company. Do you actually have a point to make?
I would like some of these people that hate google so much and are throwing out random accusations to back some of the up...or just quit making shit up.
Does google root kit our systems. It has been stated. Anonymous defended a criticism of that post. He or the person that made the claim is welcome to back it up....they won't of course. Facts are to inconvenient.
Does the GV as submitted automatically send all of the users data to google without out user consent or even knowledge? John B. has repeatedly made this claim and others though will never provide any facts to backup his claims.
I dislike people that fabricate to make a point...their assertions are worthless....they aren't much better.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
Google Earth installs Google Software Update, which is a background process that automatically updates all your Google software without your permission.
Essentially it's watching your hard drive and reporting information to Google. The potential is there for a switch can be thrown for a few seconds anytime to see what's all on your hard drive before being switched off.
Maybe you don't want your mother to know you surf for porn, or you have been investigating a corrupt politician, that's your right to privacy. You shouldn't have to give that up just to use a piece of software to view pretty pictures of Earth.
Right now your trusting Google's programmers and their intentions and Google's intention is to collect as much information as they can to sell to marketing companies and it's largest buyers, governments. So you have to wonder WHY in the hell do they need to run their Google Software Update all the time, taking up processor resources when it can be run while a Google application launches?
How often does one use Google Earth anyway? right? You see the problem? You got something running all the time, for check for updates for something you only run occasionally. It's smells fishy as all hell and given Googles nature and business model in collecting all sorts of information, reeks like dead fish.
Also any vulnerability in this software essentially becomes a rootkit, as it's already installed in root, running all the time and has access to the internet.
95% of all exploits are in applications and plug-ins, not the operating system.
At least if the software update ran while you launched Google Earth, it would cut down on it's exploit potential. Your in the decision loop.
The way it is now, your machine is immediately rooted if a vulnerability is found with their software, just like what happened with Sony's DRM software that turned into a rootkit from vulnerability.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/02/why-googles-sof/
And by the way, what you call 'paranoia" is really the ability of certain people to be able to think several moves ahead compared to those who just blindly thinks everything that occurs is immediate.
"oh! you captured my queen in three moves, I didn't see that coming!"
Yes paranoia can be a problem if it's from imaginary threats, but Googles intentions are obvious, they aim to collect everything they can and may go as far as installing the basis of spyware on your machine to be turned on at a moments notice. Marketeers are famous for abusing people's privacy, that's how they make their money. To build a profile of YOU so they can sell it.
It's enough one has to trust Apple, if they betray that trust, we don't buy their hardware anymore. But Google has nothing to lose, most people are not technically competent to be able to block all their data mining techniques.
No, they don't have to root kit systems. As I have mentioned before, all they have to do is dangle some "freeware" in front of the ignorant and you hand them whatever they want. It's called social engineering. The only difference between Google and some "hacker" is that they usually manage to not break the law to get what they want.
then your post was worthless.
Reading before replying would be helpful....please reread the post I replied to, which you then jumped on...
Like I said, if you think google is root kitting you, then you are paranoid...I am sorry you take issue with that opinion.
So then you believe google is root kitting your systems? I guess you are the clever one...knowing the secrets others do not. Almost Truther level of insight on your part.
That level of paranoia without any proof is crossing into the same levels as the crazy militias in the bush.
You like to put words in other peoples mouths...we have been over that before.
No, I don't think google is better than Apple. Apple is actually my favourite company. Do you actually have a point to make?
I would like some of these people that hate google so much and are throwing out random accusations to back some of the up...or just quit making shit up.
Does google root kit our systems. It has been stated. Anonymous defended a criticism of that post. He or the person that made the claim is welcome to back it up....they won't of course. Facts are to inconvenient.
Does the GV as submitted automatically send all of the users data to google without out user consent or even knowledge? John B. has repeatedly made this claim and others though will never provide any facts to backup his claims.
I dislike people that fabricate to make a point...their assertions are worthless....they aren't much better.
I asked you a question and you go on a rant....never put words in your mouth, now who is paranoid. Just stated my opinion like everyone else.
Btw: can anyone say Google software update (root).
Google Earth installs Google Software Update, which is a background process that automatically updates all your Google software without your permission.
Any vulnerability in this software essentially becomes a rootkit, as it's already installed in root, running all the time and has access to the internet.
95% of all exploits are in applications and plug-ins, not the operating system.
At least if the software update ran while you launched Google Earth, it would cut down on it's exploit potential. Your in the decision loop.
The way it is now, your machine is immediately rooted if a vulnerability is found with their software.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/02/why-googles-sof/
not a root kit.
Also, Apple had some complaints with their software updater on Windows. We give them the benefit of the doubt.
Google Earth installs Google Software Update, which is a background process that automatically updates all your Google software without your permission.
Any vulnerability in this software essentially becomes a rootkit, as it's already installed in root, running all the time and has access to the internet.
95% of all exploits are in applications and plug-ins, not the operating system.
At least if the software update ran while you launched Google Earth, it would cut down on it's exploit potential. Your in the decision loop.
The way it is now, your machine is immediately rooted if a vulnerability is found with their software.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/02/why-googles-sof/
then your post was worthless.
Reading before replying would be helpful....please reread the post I replied to, which you then jumped on...
Like I said, if you think google is root kitting you, then you are paranoid...I am sorry you take issue with that opinion.
not a root kit.
Also, Apple had some complaints with their software updater on Windows. We give them the benefit of the doubt.
Please explain to me why it is not a root kit. Since forgive us, if we do not take you at your word. Before you rant on me again, just want to know why?
Btw: I have apple software update on my work system (yes we use windows) and you can set it to manual, so no automatic update, is google the same?
No! Apple does not lie!
The iPod Touch doesn't have a camera because it's a gaming console, didn't you know that?! Don't believe anyone who says they had to pull that feature at the last minute!
Right? The iPod Touch is a gaming device. Didn't you see all the new gaming accessories that Apple has now for it? The joystick, the snap on console, etc,? It's a PGP -nothing more, nothing less.
Didin't you listen to the spinmeister?
Oh and that blank spot inside the Touch is where Ms PacMan lives.
You like to put words in other peoples mouths...we have been over that before.
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I would like some of these people that hate google so much and are throwing out random accusations to back some of the up...or just quit making shit up.
Does google root kit our systems. It has been stated. Anonymous defended a criticism of that post. He or the person that made the claim is welcome to back it up....they won't of course. Facts are to inconvenient.
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I dislike people that fabricate to make a point...their assertions are worthless....they aren't much better.
then your post was worthless.
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Like I said, if you think google is root kitting you, then you are paranoid...I am sorry you take issue with that opinion.
Looks a lot to me as though you are fabricating to make a point, putting words in my mouth, and trying to cover it up. I do agree, though, that your assertions are worthless, however, I will avoid casting aspersions on your character.
I guess if anyone doesn't see every move that google makes is just a pawn or sheep. No, I take it back that isn't clever, it is stupid.
Now, those that assume everything Apple does is right, only because it is Apple....they are worse than pawns or sheep....they are brain dead.