Google getting complete access to email and voice is really impossible to force, it is the user that voluntarily uses their service. I don't know about internet, they aren't an ISP except in one city. If you have a problem with a given ad provider, that's trivial to block.
I agree with you but... It does make me think of the antitrust case where Microsoft got pinched for embedding their IE browser into Windows. Well, IMO, Google is doing the same thing with browser search engines. For example, Apple includes Google search fields into every page Safari renders. Although you can change the search engine Safari uses, it's not something the average person can do easily in preferences. My Safari browser upon loading installs a Google cookie even though I have the "never accept cookies" checkbox enabled. I delete it everyday too no avail. I don't see this tactic as voluntary.
I agree with you but... It does make me think of the antitrust case where Microsoft got pinched for embedding their IE browser into Windows. Well, IMO, Google is doing the same thing with browser search engines. For example, Apple includes Google search fields into every page Safari renders. Although you can change the search engine Safari uses, it's not something the average person can do easily in preferences. My Safari browser upon loading installs a Google cookie even though I have the "never accept cookies" checkbox enabled. I delete it everyday too no avail. I don't see this tactic as voluntary.
That's only a problem for Safari, I think every other major browser gives you a search engine choice.
I agree with you but... It does make me think of the antitrust case where Microsoft got pinched for embedding their IE browser into Windows. Well, IMO, Google is doing the same thing with browser search engines. For example, Apple includes Google search fields into every page Safari renders. Although you can change the search engine Safari uses, it's not something the average person can do easily in preferences. My Safari browser upon loading installs a Google cookie even though I have the "never accept cookies" checkbox enabled. I delete it everyday too no avail. I don't see this tactic as voluntary.
I don't think these two situations are analogous at all.
You are all a bunch of lunatic Nut Cases that need severe counseling.
Yes, the rest of us are all insane. However, I think you'd be hard pressed to actually establish a correlation based on posting history between the degree of fervor an individual displays in support of Apple and their attitude toward Google. But, give it a try, say, reveiwing all posts in the last 6 months, and let us know the results.
That's only a problem for Safari, I think every other major browser gives you a search engine choice.
Your right of course and I do have a choice of browsers to choose from but Safari is the major browser on the Mac platform. I like Apple's browser and that is why I use it. I even like Google's search. I just don't like their intrusive methods.
I don't think these two situations are analogous at all.
I'm sure as an analogy it doesn't work nor is it the same thing. I wasn't trying to make it an analogy. It just sparked my memory about how Google is embedding their search engine into Safari. I'm sure with Apple's blessing.
I don't want Google's software invading my system and it's getting harder to stop it. I had the same problem with AOL's AIM putting pieces of itself throughout my system. I stopped using chat with Apple's iChat when it first came out because Apple depended mainly on AOL's AIM for accounts. I don't care for the forced ads of Google, AOL, AIM, MSN, and lately the annoying Bing. See my pattern? I know I'm probably in the minority, and I don't mind nonintrusive ads, normal cookies not Flash cookies, etc for getting free content, but there is a limit. It's getting close to that limit.
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Google getting complete access to email and voice is really impossible to force, it is the user that voluntarily uses their service. I don't know about internet, they aren't an ISP except in one city. If you have a problem with a given ad provider, that's trivial to block.
I agree with you but... It does make me think of the antitrust case where Microsoft got pinched for embedding their IE browser into Windows. Well, IMO, Google is doing the same thing with browser search engines. For example, Apple includes Google search fields into every page Safari renders. Although you can change the search engine Safari uses, it's not something the average person can do easily in preferences. My Safari browser upon loading installs a Google cookie even though I have the "never accept cookies" checkbox enabled. I delete it everyday too no avail. I don't see this tactic as voluntary.
I agree with you but... It does make me think of the antitrust case where Microsoft got pinched for embedding their IE browser into Windows. Well, IMO, Google is doing the same thing with browser search engines. For example, Apple includes Google search fields into every page Safari renders. Although you can change the search engine Safari uses, it's not something the average person can do easily in preferences. My Safari browser upon loading installs a Google cookie even though I have the "never accept cookies" checkbox enabled. I delete it everyday too no avail. I don't see this tactic as voluntary.
That's only a problem for Safari, I think every other major browser gives you a search engine choice.
I agree with you but... It does make me think of the antitrust case where Microsoft got pinched for embedding their IE browser into Windows. Well, IMO, Google is doing the same thing with browser search engines. For example, Apple includes Google search fields into every page Safari renders. Although you can change the search engine Safari uses, it's not something the average person can do easily in preferences. My Safari browser upon loading installs a Google cookie even though I have the "never accept cookies" checkbox enabled. I delete it everyday too no avail. I don't see this tactic as voluntary.
I don't think these two situations are analogous at all.
You are all a bunch of lunatic Nut Cases that need severe counseling.
Yes, the rest of us are all insane. However, I think you'd be hard pressed to actually establish a correlation based on posting history between the degree of fervor an individual displays in support of Apple and their attitude toward Google. But, give it a try, say, reveiwing all posts in the last 6 months, and let us know the results.
That's only a problem for Safari, I think every other major browser gives you a search engine choice.
Your right of course and I do have a choice of browsers to choose from but Safari is the major browser on the Mac platform. I like Apple's browser and that is why I use it. I even like Google's search. I just don't like their intrusive methods.
I don't think these two situations are analogous at all.
I'm sure as an analogy it doesn't work nor is it the same thing. I wasn't trying to make it an analogy. It just sparked my memory about how Google is embedding their search engine into Safari. I'm sure with Apple's blessing.
I don't want Google's software invading my system and it's getting harder to stop it. I had the same problem with AOL's AIM putting pieces of itself throughout my system. I stopped using chat with Apple's iChat when it first came out because Apple depended mainly on AOL's AIM for accounts. I don't care for the forced ads of Google, AOL, AIM, MSN, and lately the annoying Bing. See my pattern? I know I'm probably in the minority, and I don't mind nonintrusive ads, normal cookies not Flash cookies, etc for getting free content, but there is a limit. It's getting close to that limit.
I don't want Google's software invading my system and it's getting harder to stop it.
Well, I certainly agree with you on that point.