Patent suit targets Apple over iTunes' 'information distribution'

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  • Reply 21 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mac_dog View Post


    why stop with just eastern texas? as far as i'm concerned, we could do without the entire state.



    Some of us feel the same about you!
  • Reply 22 of 29
    al_bundyal_bundy Posts: 1,525member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by azcodemonkey View Post


    From the patent:





    It's a continuation of multiple filings. I'm guessing that all the abandoned ones were due to the filer(s) realizing the complete lack of novelty in the patent. Technically, one could say that port 80 is the broadcast channel, and port 443 is the bi-directional channel for one-to-one communication(which could route to a different server). This patent should be invalidated. It's not novel, nor is it non-obvious. Streaming media is another application of this. Port 80(http) displays the references to the streams served up by another piece of hardware to a specific user on a different channel(port).



    If they are granted a jury trial, the only way to win is with a completely ignorant and/or stupid jury. If the jury awards them a win, the judge should smack them down and say they are incapable of understanding the evidence.



    and the original itunes store came out in 2002. before that there was napster and amazon
  • Reply 23 of 29
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DJRumpy View Post


    Getting a patent on an 'idea' without any tangible means (infrastructure/manufacturing) to produce a product or tangible product resulting from the patent is just stupid.



    What is a tangible product? Does a working prototype count?

    If not, Tesla, Edison and others would never have been given many of the patents they received.

    Someone goes to a manufacturer with an idea and the manufacturer says, "Great idea! We'll have it", then files for a patents and it's theirs?

    Simply because Joe Inventor did not have ANY infrastructure/manufacturing to produce a product?
  • Reply 24 of 29
    This is why software patents must be abolished. They do not drive innovation; they can only stifle it.
  • Reply 25 of 29
    nasseraenasserae Posts: 3,167member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MadCow42 View Post


    Ok, but when was the patent FILED? That's the date that counts, not the issue date. It could have been filed in 1977 and only now been granted. Read up on "submarine patents" on google to see how companies do that on purpose in order to ambush people later on with infringement.



    MadCow.



    It was filed in 2007 and iTunes existed before that.
  • Reply 26 of 29
    djrumpydjrumpy Posts: 1,116member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post


    What is a tangible product? Does a working prototype count?

    If not, Tesla, Edison and others would never have been given many of the patents they received.

    Someone goes to a manufacturer with an idea and the manufacturer says, "Great idea! We'll have it", then files for a patents and it's theirs?

    Simply because Joe Inventor did not have ANY infrastructure/manufacturing to produce a product?



    Two words: Prior Art



    All the inventor has to do is publish his work. Anywhere will do, including the internet. Someone trying to get a patent would have a large list of rules to overcome before it could be granted.
    • If the invention in question was described in a patent issued anywhere in the world prior to the patent applicant inventing it, then no patent can be obtained.

    • If the invention in question was described in a printed publication published anywhere in the world prior to the patent applicant inventing it, then no patent can be obtained.

    • If the invention were publicly known in the US, but not necessarily patented or published, prior to the patent applicant inventing it, then no patent can be obtained.

    • In each of these three cases we would say that the earlier reference of knowledge is prior art that prevents a patent from now issuing.

    • If the invention in question was described in a patent issued anywhere in the world more than 12 months prior to a US application being filed, then no patent can be obtained.

    • If the invention in question was described in a printed publication published anywhere in the world more than 12 months prior to a US application being filed, then no patent can be obtained.

    • If the invention in question was publicly used in the US more than 12 months prior to a US application being filed, then no patent can be obtained.

    • If the device, machine or compound in question was offered for sale in the US more than 12 months prior to a US application being filed, then no patent can be obtained.

  • Reply 27 of 29
    In other news, I hereby decree that I plan to sue the internet for on charges of copyright infringement!



    What is being patent infringed, you ask?! The use of words gathered into sentences to convey information!



    I have my rights!!
  • Reply 28 of 29
    http://www.google.com/patents/about?...J&dq=7,508,789



    As you can see, it was applied for in 2007. There is a huge amount of prior art. How the USPTO came to grant this patent is truly amazing. At least the information is there to know who to fire.
  • Reply 29 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by David Steuber View Post


    http://www.google.com/patents/about?...J&dq=7,508,789



    As you can see, it was applied for in 2007. There is a huge amount of prior art. How the USPTO came to grant this patent is truly amazing. At least the information is there to know who to fire.



    The USPTO is run by clueless morons that make Homer Simpson look like a genius. If we are lucky In re Bilski may end this nonsense.
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