WSJ: Apple's Chamber departure not in shareholders' interests

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  • Reply 181 of 196
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by danvid36 View Post


    So it is ok with you having government officials that admire and talk to children about someone who killed 70 million of his own???Is it???



    The message to the kids was "think for yourself, don't let anyone tell you can't do something." I disagree with the idea that Mao is a particularly useful example of self determination, but I doubt those kids were scarred for life.



    But being impolitic isn't criminal. Is it?
  • Reply 182 of 196
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    The message to the kids was "think for yourself, don't let anyone tell you you can't do something." I disagree with the idea that Mao is a particularly useful example of self determination, but I doubt those kids were scarred for life.



    But being impolitic isn't criminal. Is it?



    Unbelievable...I feel like I am talking to a bunch of lawn chairs. Other than telling you to watch the video where she openly talks about her admiration for Mao, I don't know what else to say. Someone like that should be nowhere near a position of power in this country.
  • Reply 183 of 196
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    Originally Posted by danvid36 View Post


    ... Keep bullshitting yourself by calling video evidence of the criminals in this administration "crap" . That only makes you look like a fucking moron.



    You didn't get my usage correct.



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    You are simply intent on repeating utter diatribes of adolescent crap that don't warrant a serious response.



    I didn't call the video crap, I called your diatribes crap. As simple an example as that, your attribution is false. You don't digest information, you regurgitate, and eliminate waste matter ... non-nutritional, devoid of benefit, except to relieve yourself of pent-up bias. Do it in the privacy of your room.



    On this forum or anywhere, have you heard yourself say something to the effect, "I'm not an expert in this, but, I heard x, y, and z from so and so ... is there another side to it ... is it out of context ... has it been accounted for, has this been distorted, etc."? That would be more than tolerable, it would be refreshing, a true search for what's real, beyond one's bias. Both parties could learn something ... maybe expand their worldview. With your current attitude, I have no further interest in participating in an "exchange" with you.
  • Reply 184 of 196
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,618member
    Ok guys, if this continuous invective continues, I'm going to shut the thread down.
  • Reply 185 of 196
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    Ok guys, if this continuous invective continues, I'm going to shut the thread down.



    Says the pot to the kettle. Seriously, you're as much responsible for the thread going to where it is as anyone else.
  • Reply 186 of 196
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by bigmc6000 View Post


    Says the pot to the kettle. Seriously, you're as much responsible for the thread going to where it is as anyone else.



    I don't think that's true.



    You can disagree with someone without bitter invective or name calling. Mel obviously doesn't share your (and others) politics, but he didn't belittle you (or anyone).
  • Reply 187 of 196
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    I don't think that's true.



    You can disagree with someone without bitter invective or name calling. Mel obviously doesn't share your (and others) politics, but he didn't belittle you (or anyone).



    I didn't say he did, I'm saying he sent the thread to where it was. Go back and read through the thread, without actually going into name calling he's clearly pointed the thread into a nice political conversation which, as I'm sure you know, is going to end up with name calling (as it has on here for seemingly years).



    I guess I just think of moderators as moderate who try to keep the peace rather than throwing in their own views that are meant to incite confrontation. You can't seriously think that saying this:



    "You don't need to hold the majority view to have the biggest ratings on a news cable channel.

    What you need is rabid people who tune it in because it reinforces their own extreme views.

    And that's enough extreme politics here."



    Isn't going to piss some people off can you?
  • Reply 188 of 196
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigmc6000 View Post


    I didn't say he did, I'm saying he sent the thread to where it was. Go back and read through the thread, without actually going into name calling he's clearly pointed the thread into a nice political conversation which, as I'm sure you know, is going to end up with name calling (as it has on here for seemingly years).



    I guess I just think of moderators as moderate who try to keep the peace rather than throwing in their own views that are meant to incite confrontation. You can't seriously think that saying this:



    "You don't need to hold the majority view to have the biggest ratings on a news cable channel.

    What you need is rabid people who tune it in because it reinforces their own extreme views.

    And that's enough extreme politics here."



    Isn't going to piss some people off can you?



    But any contention is going to piss some people off-- be it declaring Mac users blind fan boys, or thinking that MS is clueless, or figuring that Apple leaving the CoC is pointless posturing predicated on a myth.



    The point is that you can disagree without calling people names.
  • Reply 189 of 196
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    But any contention is going to piss some people off-- be it declaring Mac users blind fan boys, or thinking that MS is clueless, or figuring that Apple leaving the CoC is pointless posturing predicated on a myth.



    The point is that you can disagree without calling people names.



    Is that seriously what this is about? Name calling? You've been around here long enough to know that once a thread starts down a political path it's going to result in insults left and right (ha! pun intended) and name calling left and right. Mel did plenty of insulting of other peoples intelligence although it might not be considered your typical "name calling." I.E. Implying someone is stupid isn't the same as saying someone is a douchebag but end effect is essentially the same - to put down the other person and put them on the defensive. Mel did it a number of times so I find it rather hypocritical that now the thread he helped get out of control is one that he feels he should shut down.



    As I said, maybe I just expect too much when I see the phrase "global moderator" in the tag. Despite all their insanity and endless pages of crap the MR moderators aren't nearly as opinionated which has got to be one of the only times they did something better than AI (other than the live feeds from the apple events).
  • Reply 190 of 196
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    Ok guys, if this continuous invective continues, I'm going to shut the thread down.



    I can obviously respond in a civil manner when I am talked to in a nice, intelligent way. Now when someone as despicable as the idiot above starts talking AT me as if I were a two year old, I respond par for the course. He is the typical idiot who can't refute the message so he starts insulting the messenger and trying to belittle people and I won't stand for his bullshit so fuck him if he can't take the heat when he is the one who started the fight.
  • Reply 191 of 196
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
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    Originally Posted by danvid36 View Post


    ... He is the typical idiot who can't refute the message so he starts insulting the messenger and trying to belittle people and I won't stand for his bullshit so fuck him if he can't take the heat when he is the one who started the fight.





    Comedy gold.
  • Reply 192 of 196
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    Comedy gold.



    Prove it.
  • Reply 193 of 196
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Um........ LOL?
  • Reply 194 of 196
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    Um........ LOL?



    Um...dumbass?
  • Reply 195 of 196
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    How's that go again?



    Quote:

    He is the typical idiot who can't refute the message so he starts insulting the messenger...



  • Reply 196 of 196
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    How's that go again?



    What message???
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