Lastly, there is a whole world outside of the US that does not have access to the streaming services that Americans are accustomed to. No matter how much you guys want to spin it, there is a need for Blu-ray.
The rest of the world? There are lots of places in the U.S. the are no better off when it comes to internet access (or lack thereof).
I would wager that the people who rent DVDs through Netflix do not represent the average consumer, especially one wishing to purchase, not rent. Even if Netflix distributes more streaming video that physical media within two years, I doubt that the general market will be anywhere near that ratio. It doesn't really matter if the ratio of people ditching DVD and people getting Blu-ray is one-to-one. The number of people using Blu-ray is/will be far too large to ignore.
Lastly, there is a whole world outside of the US that does not have access to the streaming services that Americans are accustomed to. No matter how much you guys want to spin it, there is a need for Blu-ray.
I would agree that physical media will still be more popular overall in two years. Never sai any differently. Netflix CEO?s comment is just one sign of a trend. I signed up for Netflix simply for the purpose of streaming. I don?t even utilize the physical media option. I have that going to my niece and nephew, but it?s never been used.
No one is ignoring Blu-ray, don?t get Teckstudian on us now. But Blu-ray is not going to be the de-facto standard like DVD was on PCs. That ship has long sailed. The internet is too grown up and programs aren?t so large that they require an expensive Blu-ray disc over a DVD disc. Blu-ray has failed to take hold on PCs. We?ll see optical drives on notrebooks go away before we see Blu-ray drives as standards across all notebook PCs. That I predict.
For the umpteenth time. Do you want to buy the same movie twice? Blu-ray for your home theater, DVD for your mac. If that is what you want, I have a PSP and some UMD movies to sell you.
I'm confused by your response, but I'll surmise that you are in support for Blu ray drives in notebooks. If that's the case, then you need a 17" Macbook Pro to get the HD experience. But with that said, why would you want to watch a Blu ray on your notebook when you can watch one on your home theater, as you advise? No contest there. DVDs suffice on notebook-sized screens because of resolution limitations.
Apple is dragging its feet in adopting Blu-ray technology and at this point is far from being innovative. This rumour is truly annoying. Is it that difflicult to provide this as an option?
Apple has and will continue to cut off our access to ANY form of 21st century media technologies, BluRay, CableCARD, etc (ones not invented at Apple anyway). This shouldn't come as any shock looking how they have managed the App Store applications is it any wonder that Apple feels they can get away with just about anything at this point?
For the umpteenth time. Do you want to buy the same movie twice? Blu-ray for your home theater, DVD for your mac. If that is what you want, I have a PSP and some UMD movies to sell you.
I watch a movie once and that is it. But managed copy is supposed to care of that issue. There are caveats with every new technology, but having a Blu-ray player in my notebook whirling away to hopefully give me enough power to watch the whole movie before the battery dies, while still watching it on my 13? display without being to enjoy the full HD audio and 5.1 audio is just a waste. Even when I did have DVDs many years ago, I?d copy them to my HDD so that power-guzzling and noisy optical drive wouldn?t be an issue.
The facts show that Blu-ray is growing. As usual, you can’t comprehend even the simplest of sentences. Blu-ray is not growing at a substantial rate in the PC world. Without OS X supporting AACS don’t expect Blu-ray drives in your next Mac notebook. Of course, you’ll read that as an absolute statement.
Why would their be Blu-ray drives unless its OS supported it? Why would you even make that statement? meanwhile Bluy-ray is all over PCs.
For the umpteenth time. Do you want to buy the same movie twice? Blu-ray for your home theater, DVD for your mac. If that is what you want, I have a PSP and some UMD movies to sell you.
I'm not saying all, but a surprising number of the Blu-rays I've purchased have come with a digital copy (almost 50%). And no, it's not all animation.
While visiting a Wal-Mart Superstore, in South Surrey, BC Canada, I stopped to look at the new Blu-ray Display and saw the Apple Logo displayed alongside Dell, HP, and Sony as Computer companies offering Blu-ray Disc players, the voice over states that Apple offers desktops and portables with Blu-ray Disc Players... along with the 3 other vendors represented by their logos.
I would agree that physical media will still be more popular overall in two years. Never sai any differently. Netflix CEO?s comment is just one sign of a trend. I signed up for Netflix simply for the purpose of streaming. I don?t even utilize the physical media option. I have that going to my niece and nephew, but it?s never been used.
No one is ignoring Blu-ray, don?t get Teckstudian on us now. But Blu-ray is not going to be the de-facto standard like DVD was on PCs. That ship has long sailed. The internet is too grown up and programs aren?t so large that they require an expensive Blu-ray disc over a DVD disc. Blu-ray has failed to take hold on PCs. We?ll see optical drives on notrebooks go away before we see Blu-ray drives as standards across all notebook PCs. That I predict.
Blu-ray is still in it's infancy on computers, it is way too early to write it off (in my opinion). I do agree that it probably wont become a standard like DVD drives, but those who have made the jump in their living room will eventually want to make the jump on their computers as well. After a while, just wanting to watch the occasional movie on your computer will become annoying if your computer can't play the movies you have purchased. And suggesting that Macs don't need a Blu-ray option is essentially the same as ignoring it. Choice is good, is it not? I'd rather not think about the fact that I am arguing on the same side as teckstud in this thread
Apple has and will continue to cut off our access to ANY form of 21st century media technologies, BluRay, CableCARD, etc (ones not invented at Apple anyway). This shouldn't come as any shock looking how they have managed the App Store applications is it any wonder that Apple feels they can get away with just about anything at this point?
Especially after what they evolved that damned AppleTV into- a DRM iTunes Digital Jukebox.
I was a sucker for ever thinking that would add anything of value to my home theater.
Why would their be Blu-ray drives unless its OS supported it? Why would you even make that statement? meanwhile Bluy-ray is all over PCs.
Are you really that dense? You keep yammering about Apple addign Blu-ray drives to the iMac, yet you haven?t realized that the Mac Pro should be the first machine to get and that without OS X support you still wouldn?t be able to play Blu-ray titles. Seriously, Dude!
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BDs will be found in 3.6 percent of PCs shipped this year?a number expected to rise to only 16.3 percent by 2013.
?BDs won?t be replacing DVDs as the primary optical drive in PC systems through at least the year 2013,? said Michael Yang, iSuppli senior analyst for storage and mobile memory, in a statement.
?They eventually will find success, but during the next five years, that success will be limited in the PC segment.?
Ok, first of all I have no wish to offend any of you out there because of my lack of knowledge concerning computers. I have found that SOME (far from everyone) of computer geeks (probably because they never get laid IRL) tend to snap your head off when you say something obviously stupid about computers, the net or other related stuff, so I want to warn you: I am a 100% "n00b", at least compared to most of you who post here. I mean no harm, I just want to get some advice on what to do.
So, here we go!
I want to buy an iMac, and it will be my "standard" computer. I will use it for games, internet, movies, film/photo/music-editing, studies etc. I plan to have it for a while. I have around $2,100, 2,200 to spend but want a better one than the most expensive iMac you can order today. I want quad-core (preferably the i5 or i7) and overall, better parts in the computer than today's iMac, since I'm going to be spending a lot on it. Rumour tells me that an upgrade is coming, and I hope that the hardware will be better, otherwise I'm buying a PC instead.
However, I have no idea if these rumours are good. What worries me is that they're going to add a version of the i7 core that only has 1.60 GHz to 2.00 GHz in CPU. This doesn't sound really good? I don't really know what it means but I know that the higher GHz, the better. 1.60 sounds like a grandpa computer! *prejudice*
Overall - I want my games and future games to run very smoothly on my new, very expensive computer, I want a full version of Adobe Photoshop to work extremely well and that the computer is FAST and sexy. The iMac design IS sexy.
So, why so low GHz? Doesn't the iMacs of today have higher? Why would the lower it??
why would you want to watch a Blu ray on your notebook when you can watch one on your home theater, as you advise? No contest there. DVDs suffice on notebook-sized screens because of resolution limitations.
So, can someone remind me why I'd want to watch a movie, DVD or Blu-ray, on my Mac in the first place?
Blu-ray is still in it's infancy on computers, it is way too early to write it off (in my opinion). I do agree that it probably wont become a standard like DVD drives, but those who have made the jump in their living room will eventually want to make the jump on their computers as well. After a while, just wanting to watch the occasional movie on your computer will become annoying if your computer can't play the movies you have purchased. And suggesting that Macs don't need a Blu-ray option is essentially the same as ignoring it. Choice is good, is it not? I'd rather not think about the fact that I am arguing on the same side as teckstud in this thread
I?m all for choice and wish Apple would update OS X to allow for AACS so people with 3rd-party internal an external BRD aren?t having to boot into Windows Vista/7 to play their titles. They don?t have to supply the drives, but having the OS support AACS would be nice. The fact that SL just came out with no support and that DVD Player is one of the few major apps that didn?t get an update (still at 32-bit, too) makes me think Apple has no intention of pushing Blu-ray in the near future. With the other factors involved I think it makes the most sense for Apple?s strategy.
PS: You and Teckstud are not arguing on the same side. He doesn?t want choice, he wants Apple to bend everything to his of what he thinks is the best choice, but it has nothing to do with choice overall.
Especially after what they evolved that damned AppleTV into- a DRM iTunes Digital Jukebox. I was a sucker for ever thinking that would add anything of value to my home theater.
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Lastly, there is a whole world outside of the US that does not have access to the streaming services that Americans are accustomed to. No matter how much you guys want to spin it, there is a need for Blu-ray.
The rest of the world? There are lots of places in the U.S. the are no better off when it comes to internet access (or lack thereof).
The rest of the world? There are lots of places in the U.S. the are no better off when it comes to internet access (or lack thereof).
Fair enough, but at least you can open an account on Netflix.com and at least attempt to watch video on Hulu
I would wager that the people who rent DVDs through Netflix do not represent the average consumer, especially one wishing to purchase, not rent. Even if Netflix distributes more streaming video that physical media within two years, I doubt that the general market will be anywhere near that ratio. It doesn't really matter if the ratio of people ditching DVD and people getting Blu-ray is one-to-one. The number of people using Blu-ray is/will be far too large to ignore.
Lastly, there is a whole world outside of the US that does not have access to the streaming services that Americans are accustomed to. No matter how much you guys want to spin it, there is a need for Blu-ray.
I would agree that physical media will still be more popular overall in two years. Never sai any differently. Netflix CEO?s comment is just one sign of a trend. I signed up for Netflix simply for the purpose of streaming. I don?t even utilize the physical media option. I have that going to my niece and nephew, but it?s never been used.
No one is ignoring Blu-ray, don?t get Teckstudian on us now.
For the umpteenth time. Do you want to buy the same movie twice? Blu-ray for your home theater, DVD for your mac. If that is what you want, I have a PSP and some UMD movies to sell you.
I'm confused by your response, but I'll surmise that you are in support for Blu ray drives in notebooks. If that's the case, then you need a 17" Macbook Pro to get the HD experience. But with that said, why would you want to watch a Blu ray on your notebook when you can watch one on your home theater, as you advise? No contest there. DVDs suffice on notebook-sized screens because of resolution limitations.
And no, I don't want your PSP UMD movies.
Apple is dragging its feet in adopting Blu-ray technology and at this point is far from being innovative. This rumour is truly annoying. Is it that difflicult to provide this as an option?
Apple has and will continue to cut off our access to ANY form of 21st century media technologies, BluRay, CableCARD, etc (ones not invented at Apple anyway). This shouldn't come as any shock looking how they have managed the App Store applications is it any wonder that Apple feels they can get away with just about anything at this point?
For the umpteenth time. Do you want to buy the same movie twice? Blu-ray for your home theater, DVD for your mac. If that is what you want, I have a PSP and some UMD movies to sell you.
I watch a movie once and that is it. But managed copy is supposed to care of that issue. There are caveats with every new technology, but having a Blu-ray player in my notebook whirling away to hopefully give me enough power to watch the whole movie before the battery dies, while still watching it on my 13? display without being to enjoy the full HD audio and 5.1 audio is just a waste. Even when I did have DVDs many years ago, I?d copy them to my HDD so that power-guzzling and noisy optical drive wouldn?t be an issue.
The facts show that Blu-ray is growing. As usual, you can’t comprehend even the simplest of sentences. Blu-ray is not growing at a substantial rate in the PC world. Without OS X supporting AACS don’t expect Blu-ray drives in your next Mac notebook. Of course, you’ll read that as an absolute statement.
Why would their be Blu-ray drives unless its OS supported it? Why would you even make that statement? meanwhile Bluy-ray is all over PCs.
For the umpteenth time. Do you want to buy the same movie twice? Blu-ray for your home theater, DVD for your mac. If that is what you want, I have a PSP and some UMD movies to sell you.
I'm not saying all, but a surprising number of the Blu-rays I've purchased have come with a digital copy (almost 50%). And no, it's not all animation.
I would agree that physical media will still be more popular overall in two years. Never sai any differently. Netflix CEO?s comment is just one sign of a trend. I signed up for Netflix simply for the purpose of streaming. I don?t even utilize the physical media option. I have that going to my niece and nephew, but it?s never been used.
No one is ignoring Blu-ray, don?t get Teckstudian on us now.
Blu-ray is still in it's infancy on computers, it is way too early to write it off (in my opinion). I do agree that it probably wont become a standard like DVD drives, but those who have made the jump in their living room will eventually want to make the jump on their computers as well. After a while, just wanting to watch the occasional movie on your computer will become annoying if your computer can't play the movies you have purchased. And suggesting that Macs don't need a Blu-ray option is essentially the same as ignoring it. Choice is good, is it not? I'd rather not think about the fact that I am arguing on the same side as teckstud in this thread
Apple has and will continue to cut off our access to ANY form of 21st century media technologies, BluRay, CableCARD, etc (ones not invented at Apple anyway). This shouldn't come as any shock looking how they have managed the App Store applications is it any wonder that Apple feels they can get away with just about anything at this point?
Especially after what they evolved that damned AppleTV into- a DRM iTunes Digital Jukebox.
I was a sucker for ever thinking that would add anything of value to my home theater.
I'm not saying all, but a surprising number of the Blu-rays I've purchased have come with a digital copy (almost 50%).
Some come with all 3 now. DVDs added too.
Why would their be Blu-ray drives unless its OS supported it? Why would you even make that statement? meanwhile Bluy-ray is all over PCs.
Are you really that dense? You keep yammering about Apple addign Blu-ray drives to the iMac, yet you haven?t realized that the Mac Pro should be the first machine to get and that without OS X support you still wouldn?t be able to play Blu-ray titles. Seriously, Dude!
BDs will be found in 3.6 percent of PCs shipped this year?a number expected to rise to only 16.3 percent by 2013.
?BDs won?t be replacing DVDs as the primary optical drive in PC systems through at least the year 2013,? said Michael Yang, iSuppli senior analyst for storage and mobile memory, in a statement.
?They eventually will find success, but during the next five years, that success will be limited in the PC segment.?
I'd rather not think about the fact that I am arguing on the same side as teckstud in this thread
Shh! Do you really want that to be made public?
j/k @ Teckstud
Some come with all 3 now. DVDs added too.
Yes, I've seen. I think I might have 1 or 2 with all three.
So, here we go!
I want to buy an iMac, and it will be my "standard" computer. I will use it for games, internet, movies, film/photo/music-editing, studies etc. I plan to have it for a while. I have around $2,100, 2,200 to spend but want a better one than the most expensive iMac you can order today. I want quad-core (preferably the i5 or i7) and overall, better parts in the computer than today's iMac, since I'm going to be spending a lot on it. Rumour tells me that an upgrade is coming, and I hope that the hardware will be better, otherwise I'm buying a PC instead.
However, I have no idea if these rumours are good. What worries me is that they're going to add a version of the i7 core that only has 1.60 GHz to 2.00 GHz in CPU. This doesn't sound really good? I don't really know what it means but I know that the higher GHz, the better. 1.60 sounds like a grandpa computer! *prejudice*
Overall - I want my games and future games to run very smoothly on my new, very expensive computer, I want a full version of Adobe Photoshop to work extremely well and that the computer is FAST and sexy. The iMac design IS sexy.
So, why so low GHz? Doesn't the iMacs of today have higher? Why would the lower it??
why would you want to watch a Blu ray on your notebook when you can watch one on your home theater, as you advise? No contest there. DVDs suffice on notebook-sized screens because of resolution limitations.
So, can someone remind me why I'd want to watch a movie, DVD or Blu-ray, on my Mac in the first place?
Blu-ray is still in it's infancy on computers, it is way too early to write it off (in my opinion). I do agree that it probably wont become a standard like DVD drives, but those who have made the jump in their living room will eventually want to make the jump on their computers as well. After a while, just wanting to watch the occasional movie on your computer will become annoying if your computer can't play the movies you have purchased. And suggesting that Macs don't need a Blu-ray option is essentially the same as ignoring it. Choice is good, is it not? I'd rather not think about the fact that I am arguing on the same side as teckstud in this thread
I?m all for choice and wish Apple would update OS X to allow for AACS so people with 3rd-party internal an external BRD aren?t having to boot into Windows Vista/7 to play their titles. They don?t have to supply the drives, but having the OS support AACS would be nice. The fact that SL just came out with no support and that DVD Player is one of the few major apps that didn?t get an update (still at 32-bit, too) makes me think Apple has no intention of pushing Blu-ray in the near future. With the other factors involved I think it makes the most sense for Apple?s strategy.
PS: You and Teckstud are not arguing on the same side. He doesn?t want choice, he wants Apple to bend everything to his of what he thinks is the best choice, but it has nothing to do with choice overall.
Especially after what they evolved that damned AppleTV into- a DRM iTunes Digital Jukebox. I was a sucker for ever thinking that would add anything of value to my home theater.
Step 1 - PatchStick the ATV
Step 2 - Install XBMC
So, can someone remind me why I'd want to watch a movie, DVD or Blu-ray, on my Mac in the first place?
As a girl who gets turned on by the design of the iMac and its sexiness, I'm asking why you WOULDN'T want to watch it as much as possible?
(oh, and I don't own a TV...)