this is a pretty useless feature as far as i can tell. anyone got any killer apps for this? i can't think of any. using it as a display for a laptop is about the only thing i can think of and that doesn't seem all that useful. the 27" imac is sweet enough to buy one, but i don't think i would ever use this feature.
As Larry David says, "You're way off base". Just kidding.... Yeah but MANY people want to use a 27" iMac for watching their 720p mkv files.I know if I was going to buy a new Mac AND I needed a new TV at the same time I would jump on the 27" and equip it with another 1TB.
Right now I watch 720p on my Aquos 40" via PS3/Mediaserver and it is oh so sexy. Although 40" isn't big these days. But if you go bigger then you need to download 1080p and my computer isn't up to snuff for 180p playback anyway.
I agree I would use it for a ps3/xbox or something like that before I'd use it as a second monitor for my laptop.
Yeah, I can understand the whole bluray issue. Thats annoying me a bit...
But this whole video input thing is awesome. By the time that computer is obsolete, it can be used as a second display for your shiny new 50 inch iMac :P, and you can run the computer part in the background as a server or something. This makes the iMac way more versatile.
And if these adapters arrive soon and work well, PS3 heaven :P
..... make a profit even if that means not providing everything you may need or want. Apple doesn't cater to teckstud's needs until after the guinee pigs mangia on Applecrack for 2 years first and they finally produce the products up to teckstud's sensible specs. (see iPhone and 13" MPB). Teckstud made the mistake once as an Apple guinee pig with the bun warmer, the AppleTV but never again. And not only teckstud- ask all the 1gen iPod Touch owners that own basically a useless device after only 1 year. Bottom line is - wait until Appple gets all the worms out of their apples (beta devices) usually by year 2 .
diude i feel your pain
and i am f ing pissed at the asses attacking you today
i think your in a not so good mood today my friend your words seem a bit angry
but i read you every day and i find that your posts sometimes ring true
sometimes crack me up
not all
but most at least make me think about a diff view
its the internet and anyone can say what they will
this is a pretty useless feature as far as i can tell. anyone got any killer apps for this? i can't think of any. using it as a display for a laptop is about the only thing i can think of and that doesn't seem all that useful. the 27" imac is sweet enough to buy one, but i don't think i would ever use this feature.
That's exactly what I would use it for and it is a very useful feature. I have a work laptop and when I have to do something from home I like to be able to hook up the laptop to my home display. Nothing worse than using a tiny screen when you have a nice big one sitting in front of you. Right now my work PC doesn't output anything except DVI/VGA.
That's exactly what I would use it for and it is a very useful feature. I have a work laptop and when I have to do something from home I like to be able to hook up the laptop to my home display. Nothing worse than using a tiny screen when you have a nice big one sitting in front of you. Right now my work PC doesn't output anything except DVI/VGA.
I understand that the 21.5" iMac does not support input only output. Would that be changeable through a software update if Apple chooses, or will they need to bring out a new line? And why don't they just add that option to the 21.5"?
I could see the mini DisplayPort input function targeted at laptop users and maybe future tablet users. The modern MacBook Air sports a MDP. Also the current MacBook and MacBook Pro.
Apple has a history of releasing incremental improvements to their products. I am sure a future revision will be more flexible for usage of the iMac as a display. Alternatively, there will be 3rd party adapters soon enough.
@techstud: There is no reason for you to crib about Apple just because they are innovative and don't deliver on all the features in the first iteration of an idea. Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to go out and buy an iMac now or in the future. The iPhone is severely limited in cross application access and multitasking, that didn't stop it from being a successful device. The iMac is a computer that can act as a display for your MacBook when you are at home using the display port adapter.
Belkin is rumored to be working on a converter box for conversion of digital video into the packet switched stream that Mini DisplayPort uses. Nothing on their web site yet. It should be a Command-F2 away in the future.
I understand that the 21.5" iMac does not support input only output. Would that be changeable through a software update if Apple chooses, or will they need to bring out a new line? And why don't they just add that option to the 21.5"?
They probably didn't put the hardware in the 21.5 inch to keep the price down, and to make the 27 inch more attractive. Switching it to IPS probably reduced their margins by quite a bit I would imagine.
Why is that? Is it a bandwidth issue? Or is it something else?
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Originally Posted by FuturePastNow
A converter box to import HDMI via Firewire or USB would probably cost more than a decent sized HDTV.
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Originally Posted by David Steuber
Are there any solutions for bringing in HDMI via Firewire 800 or USB 2.0?
They have converter boxes that send DVI over ethernet. There is a little loss of quality and a little delay as the graphics data has to be compressed. There is no software to access that signal on a computer however.
I have a USB display hooked up to my mac so I can run 3 displays, and when running windows in bootcamp I was able to play Half-life 2 on the USB display at 1024 x 768 at over 30 fps, zero lag. (uses the primary GPU for rendering).
I'd figure full high def would be easily accomplished with gigabit ethernet or fw800, however I doubt you would ever see that because it would require decrypting HDCP to be of any use and thats a big no-no. Really, its HDCP that makes converting DVI to DisplayPort require any real effort. Blame the DRM.
But for sure its totally possible and probably with minimal lag.
I don't see why it's unreasonable to suggest that Apple would make more money with a elegantly designed box to convert HDMI to mini-displayport. I have two MacBook Pro's and a MacPro Octo. I'm plenty happy with Apple. I'm not pissed at them or anything.
Here's my deal. I don't have a flat screen TV yet. I'm anxious to get one; when I heard the iMac announcement about video in; I thought: no reason to buy a TV now. I imagine an HDMI hub maybe with a remote, maybe keyboard switched, maybe an iPhone remote for it, all terminating at the iMac on the wall. It seems there are other ways to accomplish a similar goal: Sling Box comes to mind. Still, I will want a console at some point and will want the lowest latency possible.
So, I don't particularly need another computer. For the same price, I could probably find a decent and larger flat screen of some description. Still, having an iMac as a family hub for any and all video inputs: super cool. I can't remember the last time I've posted here, I just read all this harassing stuff when the underlying point is valid: Apple might have gone ahead and taken this Beast to the next level.
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http://www.belkin.com/search/?q=508267&sid=1
http://bigmacky.wordpress.com/2009/1...-to-your-imac/
As Larry David says, "You're way off base". Just kidding.... Yeah but MANY people want to use a 27" iMac for watching their 720p mkv files.I know if I was going to buy a new Mac AND I needed a new TV at the same time I would jump on the 27" and equip it with another 1TB.
Right now I watch 720p on my Aquos 40" via PS3/Mediaserver and it is oh so sexy. Although 40" isn't big these days. But if you go bigger then you need to download 1080p and my computer isn't up to snuff for 180p playback anyway.
I agree I would use it for a ps3/xbox or something like that before I'd use it as a second monitor for my laptop.
http://www.plexapp.com/
iTunes who?
But this whole video input thing is awesome. By the time that computer is obsolete, it can be used as a second display for your shiny new 50 inch iMac :P, and you can run the computer part in the background as a server or something. This makes the iMac way more versatile.
And if these adapters arrive soon and work well, PS3 heaven :P
Please point me to the last positive remark you have concerning an Apple product.
Why? So you can mock it? No thanks.
Are there any solutions for bringing in HDMI via Firewire 800 or USB 2.0?
A converter box to import HDMI via Firewire or USB would probably cost more than a decent sized HDTV.
..... make a profit even if that means not providing everything you may need or want. Apple doesn't cater to teckstud's needs until after the guinee pigs mangia on Applecrack for 2 years first and they finally produce the products up to teckstud's sensible specs. (see iPhone and 13" MPB). Teckstud made the mistake once as an Apple guinee pig with the bun warmer, the AppleTV but never again. And not only teckstud- ask all the 1gen iPod Touch owners that own basically a useless device after only 1 year. Bottom line is - wait until Appple gets all the worms out of their apples (beta devices) usually by year 2 .
diude i feel your pain
and i am f ing pissed at the asses attacking you today
i think your in a not so good mood today my friend your words seem a bit angry
but i read you every day and i find that your posts sometimes ring true
sometimes crack me up
not all
but most at least make me think about a diff view
its the internet and anyone can say what they will
attacking that person every time they post
makes the attacker a flame-troll
better to address teckstuds points one by one
or ignore him
after all we are on a world wide apple site
have some respect
and this prissy baby act is ruining every topic
and getting so tired
pssft
this is a pretty useless feature as far as i can tell. anyone got any killer apps for this? i can't think of any. using it as a display for a laptop is about the only thing i can think of and that doesn't seem all that useful. the 27" imac is sweet enough to buy one, but i don't think i would ever use this feature.
That's exactly what I would use it for and it is a very useful feature. I have a work laptop and when I have to do something from home I like to be able to hook up the laptop to my home display. Nothing worse than using a tiny screen when you have a nice big one sitting in front of you. Right now my work PC doesn't output anything except DVI/VGA.
That's exactly what I would use it for and it is a very useful feature. I have a work laptop and when I have to do something from home I like to be able to hook up the laptop to my home display. Nothing worse than using a tiny screen when you have a nice big one sitting in front of you. Right now my work PC doesn't output anything except DVI/VGA.
Couldn't you simply connect them with a hub?
A converter box to import HDMI via Firewire or USB would probably cost more than a decent sized HDTV.
Why is that? Is it a bandwidth issue? Or is it something else?
http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html
http://www.apple.com/macbook/specs.html
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html
All you need then is the $30 cable with MDP at both ends
http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/...co=MTM1NDg4ODQ
or
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=508255
Maybe a future iPod/iPhone dock with MiniDisplay Port would be way cool.
@techstud: There is no reason for you to crib about Apple just because they are innovative and don't deliver on all the features in the first iteration of an idea. Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to go out and buy an iMac now or in the future. The iPhone is severely limited in cross application access and multitasking, that didn't stop it from being a successful device. The iMac is a computer that can act as a display for your MacBook when you are at home using the display port adapter.
I understand that the 21.5" iMac does not support input only output. Would that be changeable through a software update if Apple chooses, or will they need to bring out a new line? And why don't they just add that option to the 21.5"?
They probably didn't put the hardware in the 21.5 inch to keep the price down, and to make the 27 inch more attractive. Switching it to IPS probably reduced their margins by quite a bit I would imagine.
Why is that? Is it a bandwidth issue? Or is it something else?
A converter box to import HDMI via Firewire or USB would probably cost more than a decent sized HDTV.
Are there any solutions for bringing in HDMI via Firewire 800 or USB 2.0?
They have converter boxes that send DVI over ethernet. There is a little loss of quality and a little delay as the graphics data has to be compressed. There is no software to access that signal on a computer however.
I have a USB display hooked up to my mac so I can run 3 displays, and when running windows in bootcamp I was able to play Half-life 2 on the USB display at 1024 x 768 at over 30 fps, zero lag. (uses the primary GPU for rendering).
I'd figure full high def would be easily accomplished with gigabit ethernet or fw800, however I doubt you would ever see that because it would require decrypting HDCP to be of any use and thats a big no-no. Really, its HDCP that makes converting DVI to DisplayPort require any real effort. Blame the DRM.
But for sure its totally possible and probably with minimal lag.
Here's my deal. I don't have a flat screen TV yet. I'm anxious to get one; when I heard the iMac announcement about video in; I thought: no reason to buy a TV now. I imagine an HDMI hub maybe with a remote, maybe keyboard switched, maybe an iPhone remote for it, all terminating at the iMac on the wall. It seems there are other ways to accomplish a similar goal: Sling Box comes to mind. Still, I will want a console at some point and will want the lowest latency possible.
So, I don't particularly need another computer. For the same price, I could probably find a decent and larger flat screen of some description. Still, having an iMac as a family hub for any and all video inputs: super cool. I can't remember the last time I've posted here, I just read all this harassing stuff when the underlying point is valid: Apple might have gone ahead and taken this Beast to the next level.