Wow... so miuch here saying "it never was going to" or "it only assists". I looked back through news archives since theTomTom Car Kit has been available 9n Europe for awhile already, and sure enough, they originally stated, unequivocally, that the kit contained its own GPS receiver that woud (a) boost the built-in GPS sensitivity pf the iPhone and (b) ADD GPS FUNCTIONALITY TO THE iPOD TOUCH! Some articles even stated that when the car kit was used, the buit-in GPS on the iPhone was bypassed completey, which means that there should be no technical reason why it can't work with the Touch. That was stated WAY before the 3rd Generation Touch was announced... so one has to assume that they thought it could work. More than likely, though, Apple (and, maybe, AT&T) came down hard on TomTom to remove that compatibility. After all, AT&T is about to introduce the Garmin GPS phone, and if people could simply use their Touch for GPS it sure could cannibalize sales of both iPhones and the new Garmin phone.
I would strongly doubt that AT&T has any say in this.
The California law was changed at the start of this year by the governator. You can now have GPS receivers attached to your car window.
Can someone that has one of these try plugging in an iPod Touch 2nd or 3rd gen and let us know if it works with one of the free GPS applications? If it augments the iPod Touch's location ability (which currently works with WiFi signals) you should get accurate GPS location everywhere when attached to the TomTom car kit.
First: I can see no reason to buy this, as they've priced themselves out of the market. For the price of the mount alone, I can buy a TomTom 140S (I did) which has the same feature set, PLUS text-to-speech for street names. The combined price of the mount with the application is just too high for limited functionality.
Second: to the poster quoting CA regulations, those rules were amended last year, with the changes going into effect on 1/1/09. Since then it is permissible to mount a GPS device on the windshield in CA so long as it is in either the lower left corner or lower right corner of the windshield. It is still not allowed to mount it in the center as it could block the forward view, but I was following a cop the other day who had it there. Go figure.
Correct.
"(12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver or in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver, if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated and outside of an airbag deployment zone." http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm
Is there any other tech company worth buying from?
My phone has an 800mhz processor, OLED touch screen, a brilliant 5MP camera and takes excellent 720x480 video at 30 fps and can take slow motion video at 120 fps.
On a further note, if the TomTom Car Kit requires mounting on the windshield, ...and now the province of Ontario, Canada will have problems, i.e., windshield mounting, for example, is illegal.
I don't think the bill passed by the Ontario legislative assembly dictates how a GPS should be mounted. It only says you should not hold it in your hands it when you are operating your vehicle:
I don't think the bill passed by the Ontario legislative assembly dictates how a GPS should be mounted. It only says you should not hold it in your hands it when you are operating your vehicle:
I don't think the bill passed by the Ontario legislative assembly dictates how a GPS should be mounted. It only says you should not hold it in your hands it when you are operating your vehicle:
You are partially correct. The word is can't. 78.1 *
However The Ontario Highway traffic Act also makes it illegal to drive a vehicle in which a GPS is attached to the windshield.
Equipment obstructing view Signs, objects, etc.
73. (1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway,
(a) with any sign, poster or other non-transparent material or object placed on the windshield or on any window of such motor vehicle; or
(b) with any object placed in, hung on or attached to the motor vehicle, in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway.
You are partially correct. The word is can't. 78.1 *
However The Ontario Highway traffic Act also makes it illegal to drive a vehicle in which a GPS is attached to the windshield.
Equipment obstructing view Signs, objects, etc.
73. (1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway,
(a) with any sign, poster or other non-transparent material or object placed on the windshield or on any window of such motor vehicle; or
(b) with any object placed in, hung on or attached to the motor vehicle, in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway.
The key phrase here is "in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway". I guess OPP can pull you over and charge you if you mounted one on the windshield but unless you mounted it straight ahead of you (doh!) and you can't see the road ahead clearly you will have a chance to fight it off in court (I doubt you even need a good lawyer). This is debatable. Nothing in this act says "illegal to drive a vehicle in which a GPS is attached to the windshield". I guess it is one of those grey area that the cops can use in their digression... but I doubt the cops and crown prosecutor will waste resources on this unless, as I have mentioned, you did something stupid.
Of course, I'm not a lawyer Take it as a grain of salt. If you are worry just get one of those dash mount kit.
The key phrase here is "in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway". I guess OPP can pull you over and charge you if you mounted one on the windshield but unless you mounted it straight ahead of you (doh!) and you can't see the road ahead clearly you will have a chance to fight it off in court (I doubt you even need a good lawyer). This is debatable. Nothing in this act says "illegal to drive a vehicle in which a GPS is attached to the windshield". I guess it is one of those grey area that the cops can use in their digression... but I doubt the cops and crown prosecutor will waste resources on this unless, as I have mentioned, you did something stupid.
Of course, I'm not a lawyer Take it as a grain of salt. If you are worry just get one of those dash mount kit.
You didn't read the law properly.
It does say exactly that, i.e.,
"73. (1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway,
(a) with any sign, poster or other non-transparent material or object placed on the windshield or on any window of such motor vehicle; [B][SIZE="2"] or
(b) with any object placed in, hung on or attached to the motor vehicle, in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway."
Part 'b' concerns objects not afixed to the windshield is a second condition.
I seem to remember Tom Tom saying that it would ASSIST the GPS in the iPhone.
Either way Tom Tom is the biggest rip off/disappointment in terms of iPhone navigation. 2.5 stars vs 4 stars for Navigon (#4 grossing app...TomTom...#40).
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Wow... so miuch here saying "it never was going to" or "it only assists". I looked back through news archives since theTomTom Car Kit has been available 9n Europe for awhile already, and sure enough, they originally stated, unequivocally, that the kit contained its own GPS receiver that woud (a) boost the built-in GPS sensitivity pf the iPhone and (b) ADD GPS FUNCTIONALITY TO THE iPOD TOUCH! Some articles even stated that when the car kit was used, the buit-in GPS on the iPhone was bypassed completey, which means that there should be no technical reason why it can't work with the Touch. That was stated WAY before the 3rd Generation Touch was announced... so one has to assume that they thought it could work. More than likely, though, Apple (and, maybe, AT&T) came down hard on TomTom to remove that compatibility. After all, AT&T is about to introduce the Garmin GPS phone, and if people could simply use their Touch for GPS it sure could cannibalize sales of both iPhones and the new Garmin phone.
I would strongly doubt that AT&T has any say in this.
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2.) iPhone-And here's the exact proof why you never buy a 1st generation Apple product- EVER.
Peace.
The same could be said for most, if not all, tech companies, but then .... I don't have a particular axe to grind !
Maybe his new Tom Tom device IS a little too distracting...
Can someone that has one of these try plugging in an iPod Touch 2nd or 3rd gen and let us know if it works with one of the free GPS applications? If it augments the iPod Touch's location ability (which currently works with WiFi signals) you should get accurate GPS location everywhere when attached to the TomTom car kit.
Two comments:
First: I can see no reason to buy this, as they've priced themselves out of the market. For the price of the mount alone, I can buy a TomTom 140S (I did) which has the same feature set, PLUS text-to-speech for street names. The combined price of the mount with the application is just too high for limited functionality.
Second: to the poster quoting CA regulations, those rules were amended last year, with the changes going into effect on 1/1/09. Since then it is permissible to mount a GPS device on the windshield in CA so long as it is in either the lower left corner or lower right corner of the windshield. It is still not allowed to mount it in the center as it could block the forward view, but I was following a cop the other day who had it there. Go figure.
Correct.
"(12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver or in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver, if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated and outside of an airbag deployment zone." http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm
Where did you buy your TomTom 140S for $120?
The same could be said for most, if not all, tech companies, but then .... I don't have a particular axe to grind !
Is there any other tech company worth buying from?
Is there any other tech company worth buying from?
My phone has an 800mhz processor, OLED touch screen, a brilliant 5MP camera and takes excellent 720x480 video at 30 fps and can take slow motion video at 120 fps.
So I would say yes.
Panasonic, TomTom apparently etc.
On a further note, if the TomTom Car Kit requires mounting on the windshield, ...and now the province of Ontario, Canada will have problems, i.e., windshield mounting, for example, is illegal.
I don't think the bill passed by the Ontario legislative assembly dictates how a GPS should be mounted. It only says you should not hold it in your hands it when you are operating your vehicle:
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bil...en&BillID=2099
I don't think the bill passed by the Ontario legislative assembly dictates how a GPS should be mounted. It only says you should not hold it in your hands it when you are operating your vehicle:
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bil...en&BillID=2099
So, do you have them, and if so, what are you listening to them through?
I don't think the bill passed by the Ontario legislative assembly dictates how a GPS should be mounted. It only says you should not hold it in your hands it when you are operating your vehicle:
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bil...en&BillID=2099
You are partially correct. The word is can't. 78.1 *
However The Ontario Highway traffic Act also makes it illegal to drive a vehicle in which a GPS is attached to the windshield.
Equipment obstructing view Signs, objects, etc.
73. (1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway,
(a) with any sign, poster or other non-transparent material or object placed on the windshield or on any window of such motor vehicle; or
(b) with any object placed in, hung on or attached to the motor vehicle, in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway.
R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 73 (1)*
* http://www.search.e-laws.gov.on.ca/e...tutes&context=
You are partially correct. The word is can't. 78.1 *
However The Ontario Highway traffic Act also makes it illegal to drive a vehicle in which a GPS is attached to the windshield.
Equipment obstructing view Signs, objects, etc.
73. (1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway,
(a) with any sign, poster or other non-transparent material or object placed on the windshield or on any window of such motor vehicle; or
(b) with any object placed in, hung on or attached to the motor vehicle, in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway.
R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 73 (1)*
* http://www.search.e-laws.gov.on.ca/e...tutes&context=
The key phrase here is "in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway". I guess OPP can pull you over and charge you if you mounted one on the windshield but unless you mounted it straight ahead of you (doh!) and you can't see the road ahead clearly you will have a chance to fight it off in court (I doubt you even need a good lawyer). This is debatable. Nothing in this act says "illegal to drive a vehicle in which a GPS is attached to the windshield". I guess it is one of those grey area that the cops can use in their digression... but I doubt the cops and crown prosecutor will waste resources on this unless, as I have mentioned, you did something stupid.
Of course, I'm not a lawyer
The key phrase here is "in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway". I guess OPP can pull you over and charge you if you mounted one on the windshield but unless you mounted it straight ahead of you (doh!) and you can't see the road ahead clearly you will have a chance to fight it off in court (I doubt you even need a good lawyer). This is debatable. Nothing in this act says "illegal to drive a vehicle in which a GPS is attached to the windshield". I guess it is one of those grey area that the cops can use in their digression... but I doubt the cops and crown prosecutor will waste resources on this unless, as I have mentioned, you did something stupid.
Of course, I'm not a lawyer
You didn't read the law properly.
It does say exactly that, i.e.,
"73. (1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway,
(a) with any sign, poster or other non-transparent material or object placed on the windshield or on any window of such motor vehicle; [B][SIZE="2"] or
(b) with any object placed in, hung on or attached to the motor vehicle, in a manner that will obstruct the driver's view of the highway or any intersecting highway."
Part 'b' concerns objects not afixed to the windshield is a second condition.
Is this surprising? It shouldn't be.
I seem to remember Tom Tom saying that it would ASSIST the GPS in the iPhone.
Either way Tom Tom is the biggest rip off/disappointment in terms of iPhone navigation. 2.5 stars vs 4 stars for Navigon (#4 grossing app...TomTom...#40).
We offer a unique range of products to help integrate your Iphone Car Interface, Iphone Car Kit, Ipod Car Interface and Mazda Android in many vehicles.